taking risks does not mean blowing all our finances and becoming the next leeds united
The Daily ITK Discussion Thread 30th June
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To be fair, I don't think anyone is "spiralling into a pit of despair". It's more a case of constantly feeling like we're spiralling back in time through the same old worn out wormhole. I'm staying positive - it may well still happen - because this is the year when we should be positive beyond all others. However, if we end up with another French stab in the dark for the sake of saving money over progress then I reserve the right to be less than impressed on 9 August.
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It's the first week of July and as per previous ITK ("towards the end of the world cup, etc."), I fully expect something to happen in the next week or two (also because we tend to make a signing at the start of July). If that happens to be some kid like Plea who I don't know, c'est la vie. I didn't know Sonny before he joined either.
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Most of us are like spoilt kids: " I want my new toy and I want it NOW!".
The thing is that we have a new stadium very near completion, we are looking for Stadium Sponsors (may have already signed contracts, but I really don't know!) and will, presumably, have a big opening ceremony. What better way to build up the publicity for the new sponsors than to announce, a day or two beforehand, that we will unveil a brand new signing or two at that ceremony. If we can get a top, top signing even better. IMHO it's all about maximum publicity for the club and the sponsors and I don't think any new signings will be announced before the opening ceremony, so we need to chill, just a bit!
The thing is that we have a new stadium very near completion, we are looking for Stadium Sponsors (may have already signed contracts, but I really don't know!) and will, presumably, have a big opening ceremony. What better way to build up the publicity for the new sponsors than to announce, a day or two beforehand, that we will unveil a brand new signing or two at that ceremony. If we can get a top, top signing even better. IMHO it's all about maximum publicity for the club and the sponsors and I don't think any new signings will be announced before the opening ceremony, so we need to chill, just a bit!
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We've been told we have the money. Update 11 states:
"We WILL exceed 150m spend, which relies not on sales, and a good amount of sales monies will be added. We want 3 priority signings in early, possibly four. Aside from manchester clubs, we are in the same market as the other top 4 clubs."
I know, pinch of salt etc but there's been a few updates saying this is the season we have the money to push on. Update 34:
Finances: "First of many. New stadium + CL football for 3rd year = hugely increased income streams = higher wages. Just wait till we bag the naming rights deal..."
Ambitions: "Serious title challenge and a trophy. Anything less is unacceptable at this stage. Poch told Levy that. Levy agreed. Hence the financial commitment from DL and Poch signing a new contract. No more transition. Time to take the final step."
5 weeks to go anyway.
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I can't say I'm disappointed that we might get plea instead of Martial. He looks like a very handy player and a useful option.
The only real need we have this window is to replace the only starter we'll lose which is Dembele. If we're going to spend half our budget on one position it surely should be in central midfield.
Itk has gone quiet on this but I'd rather we invested in Dombele or even SMS than Martial.
In truth I'd rather we tried for both and persuade Dier to take Tobys place at RCB.
The only real need we have this window is to replace the only starter we'll lose which is Dembele. If we're going to spend half our budget on one position it surely should be in central midfield.
Itk has gone quiet on this but I'd rather we invested in Dombele or even SMS than Martial.
In truth I'd rather we tried for both and persuade Dier to take Tobys place at RCB.
its not big signings we need but the right signings
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Oh how I hate that statement. Something would have to go drastically wrong for us to 'do a Leeds', it really doesn't apply to us. We've been told there's money to spend, the huge jump in turnover also suggests so.
If we had to cut our cloth due to the new stadium then the club should be up front about it, rather than saying the opposite (doesn't affect transfer business).
It's painfully obvious that now is the time to twist rather than stick. Another year or two of being nearly men happy to fight for 4th and we will have plenty of spare cash to spunk on prospects like Plea and Grealish when Kane, Eriksen, Dele leave. Let alone the future of Poch, the glue that holds it all together.
I like to consider myself one of the more level-headed fans that give Levy and ENIC a lot of credit. I put faith in Poch's coaching and our squad more than the transfer market, but I can't defend us going into the new season competing with West Ham, Fulham and Leicester for new signings while the rest of the top six make strong signings, especially after we sell two key players (Dembele and Toby).
Now the hope is that this is all an overreaction on things seeming a bit Deja Vu with the limited info we have right now (during the World Cup lull). It's a case of wait and see, but can't blame people for expecting the same old, same old.
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Think of all that interest we have accumulated on that initial £150m from a couple of months ago! We must have at least £150.5m to spend now.
But in all seriousness, I'm not interested in us buying any players that don't significantly improve the first eleven, or offer something different. Not again. Not this summer.
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It's a BSoDL standard. It sits alongside the grass isn't always greener and be careful what you wish for, usually when pater is being defended.
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If people are to be excited about positive ITK, then they will naturally be pessimistic when things aren't as rosy. Otherwise what's the point in it all?
I think there is a justification in feelings, looking at track records of windows gone by, and how things started out so positively, yet now seem to be coming back to reality with a shuddering jolt.
We have an exceptional stadium to look forward to, but also sky high ticket prices. I am inclined to be suspicious about all the positivity around ST release, and now as we tail off to the end, the realism that is setting in.
I won't pass judgement until the window is closed as I understand there are many cogs to the operation, however from talk of hundreds of millions, Bale not being totally out the question and others like De Ligt and Martial touted, to end with unknown's or just potential again would be an incredible disappointment.
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This all day long
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The trick is as follows:
Very positive ITK = Meh, pinch of salt
Very negative ITK = Meh, pinch of salt
Then just let is all wash over you and see how it pans out. Which is usually with massive disappointment and a handful of posters wanting to tar and feather our favourite bald headed oompah-loompah
If you allow it to get to you, it isn't the ITK's doing that, you're doing it to yourself
EDIT: Although I must admit I've done it to myself quite often
Very positive ITK = Meh, pinch of salt
Very negative ITK = Meh, pinch of salt
Then just let is all wash over you and see how it pans out. Which is usually with massive disappointment and a handful of posters wanting to tar and feather our favourite bald headed oompah-loompah
If you allow it to get to you, it isn't the ITK's doing that, you're doing it to yourself
EDIT: Although I must admit I've done it to myself quite often
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King of Otters
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@Trix has said that this summer's MO will be no different to any other transfer window, but no-one wants to hear that...
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Yeah unfortunately that's all I've kept thinking.
Didnt he mean in the context there will be no early signings and it will be towards the end of the window as usual?
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yep to be fair it has only been Herc who has said it would be massively different and business done a lot sooner
Trix has said pretty much same as last windows with business being done late on with maybe a little more investment this time
Looks like Herc source has now changed his tune slightly to temper expectations
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Poch said about being Brave, even he knows the difference between being Brave and being Stupid. the names we are being linked with now, are not the same names we were being linked with at the start. He knows we have a certain amount to spend, and if all those players prices have increased or being difficult to get, then there is the possibility Levy has kept his word and gone for Poch's targets. if people believe we should spend 20m extra to get them targets then perhaps they should tell Levy how to recoup it.
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Begs, the question, what was Poch referring to when he talked about the need to be brave and has anything actually changed in respect of transfer strategy?, Did Poch have any expectations that things would be different?
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