worcestersauce
"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
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I'm sure that's not right, I'm sure there are people who do.
Anthony Martial
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Geyzer Soze
Fearlessly the idiot faced the crowd
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Has he signed yet?
sausage
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Happiest I've been in some jobs has been my notice period
Vitur15
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tbf he may enjoy being at United but feel like he won't get enough playing time there so a move away is what's best for his career
mmillerlight
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People analysing a situation and expressing a differing view to you on a forum is not bed wetting. Our players coming back will be able to return and adapt quicker than a new player and I’m sure Poch is not happy about it either. Somebody already showed our points in aug the last couple years, if we have a good start and with the new stadium atmosphere who knows how far we can go. A signing like Martial or the unlikely Bale could easily come and help us challenge.Sure, I can imagine him saying "We would have won the league if I had an extra 1 week's training with Grealish"
Our non-WC players have only had a few days training so far. Most of our team has only just finished playing WC matches today, and Hugo won't until tomorrow. You could sign a player that has been in the WC and still not have him in training for a few week's.
Yes, it's Bed Wetting.
I'm not sure why people want to worry about something that the person who said it obviously isn't even worrying about.
sausage
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Someone complaining about a book before it has been written is not just "a different opinion", it is pessimism. It's the tone of people that annoys. If I wanted to read posts criticising the club and moaning on about us signing crap etc, I'd jump on an Arsenal forum. It's free speech, so you get that on here, but I/we are at least allowed to call a spade a spade - people literally can't wait to shit their beds about stuff.
Anyway, to re-iterate: the plays have been back in training 5 days. Hugo, Dembele, Vertonghen, Alderweireld, Kane, Alli, Dier, Trippier, Rose (as a minimum) won't be back in training until the end of the month, as will generally be the same for any World Cup player too. Pochettino spoke about players signing at the end of August as "late", not the second week of July.
As for Martial, it's massively unlikely that we can sign him until Alderweireld has been sorted, yet he's still in Russia and has only just finished playing, so I'm not sure how anyone ever realistically expected anything to even begin on that front until the end of the WC.
Add all the above together and you'll get the collective reason why it's bed-wetting.
Or maybe we should go out and buy a load of shit again so that the moaners can extend the moaning across to the next window.
Luka Van der Bale
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People need to stop saying stuff like 'can't even get Grealish over the line'. It simply isn't true. Levy having a policy and not rushing to get things done so we fans can boast to our mates in the pub isn't a valid criticism. We are also nowhere near as slow in this regard as many seem to think, and you must live in a very Spurs-fan filled world to think we are. My mates who support United, Arsenal and Liverpool all say exactly the same about their business; United in particular have had some ridiculously drawn out transfer sagas in recent years. We'll see all of these clubs doing business in the coming weeks - if Levy is a joke for doing business near the end of the window, why does every fucking club in the land end up doing the same?
barry
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What sanctimonious garbage. Stop spouting such inane rhetoric and look at the real world. Levy is slow; He hasn't got Grelish over the line. The other clubs you mention have all completed numerous transfers, we haven't completed one, not even one from a bankrupt championship club. What isn't true??
Does this fill you with confidence that big deals will be done. Fills me with dejavu.
What's wrong with giving the fans something to dream about while we wait for this supposed whale? Sometimes you have to risk something to get a better preseason in, or to appease the fans . There's a massive difference between doing a leeds and spending a bit extra to expediate transfers, or even to get them done at all. I need something to give me hope.
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Hope to be proved wrong but seems a complete waste of time we won't pay the money
It's a myth Levy's tactics help us but knocking off a few million by waiting to the last day of the window as it messes up our start to the season. Plus we miss out on targets and end up with worse players who are a waste of money. #falseeconomy
LeParisien
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You know almost nothing about what it takes to complete a transfer, the kinds of problems that can hold up a transfer or Levy’s motivations when negotiating a transfer.
Therefore you are not in a position to speak so strongly.
LeParisien
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You don’t know what situation we would be in if levy had different negotiating tactics. You don’t bring any clear evidence to explain what things would be like so you don’t have an informed opinion. You just have a load of emotional hot air.
Let me talk facts:
- most of our signings occur before the last day of the season.
- lots of factors can cause lower performance early in the season. You have not presented any evidence why you think it is our transfer policy and not some other factor e.g. the effect of our pre season preparation. Given the fact we haven’t lost any first team starters recently there is no reason why personnel should be the reason our start of season form is worse than the end of the preceding season.
- you have no solid evidence from reliable sources to suggest we miss out on more of our targets than any other club in a comparable situation. We do know negotiating transfers is difficult for every club. Every club misses out on transfer targets.
- The same applies to signings that are a waste of money. We are no worse (and probably better) than other comparable clubs.
TEESSIDE1
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Spurs agree and pull out of Sunderland striker Asoro deal? Talk about fishing in a sess pit.
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/1...ll-plug-on-deal-for-joel-asoro-joins-swansea/
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/07/1...ll-plug-on-deal-for-joel-asoro-joins-swansea/
barry
Bring me Messi
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I don't know the kind of problems that can hold up a transfer but I know this everyone bar Everton, Burnley and ourselves have completed at least one transfer. Some clubs have completed numerous transfers.
I don't Levy's motivations but from past windows i believe his modus operandi is to sign players for the best price possible, everything else be damned. Fine tactic when all you're concerned with is the bottom line, but when building a team it can, and probably has been detrimental. Poch himself has stated how important his preseason is to a players integration into his system. This could be even more important this year with many players tired after a hard world cup, and yet we've added no one.
LeParisien
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You surely understand that we could have completed transfers by now. We could have spent 100m on Maguire or 15m on Shakiri. But overpaying or buying dubious quality is not a smart strategy.
The difficult thing is to spend a reasonable amount of money on players that will add something to our team.
That is not easy for us because the players that will improve our team will also be desirable to teams with far more money than us. The other teams in the top 6 all have more money than us and the closest of those, Liverpool, are overspending.
Therefore we cannot both improve our squad and get into bidding wars with richer clubs. The former is non negotiable and so we have to behave in a way which does t provoke said bidding wars.
This may look from the outside like “penny pinching” or “leaving it late”. I get that because we can’t bid massively for players and agents will always seek the best deal for their clients so will shop around and stall. The lack of action looks like we are fannying around. Bit we aren’t. As I have made clear, acting late is the only appropriate strategy for our situation as we are not going to be beaten to players by clubs with more money.
punkisback
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“Welcome Rondon!”
barry
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My friend you've made your point in an informative and articulate manner, and I appreciate that, i just can't abide by your views, at least not for every target.
For instance please explain the Grealish hold up?
See Trix's ITK re Grealish
Yid-ol
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Was just posted in the ITK thread the hold up is will villa
barry
Bring me Messi
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To tell you the truth i don't really understand that. I'm no financial wizard, but if i was broke the best time to get money would be ASAP.
I also don't understand why he'd be playing friendlies for Villa (chance of injury)
Please don't interrupt this as itk bashing , or being facetious, i really don't understand what he means. I would ask him but don't want to be banned, or misconstrued.
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