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tiger666

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To be honest, I understand that loads of people will disagree with me. I just fail to see a better option at the moment who would be significantly cheaper without being a lot shittier/less proven as well. For once I just want us to go get a proven player that Poch clearly wants.

Yeah fine, I don't mind Zaha but come on. £70m? We have no midfield. I'd rather that was directed there tbh.
 

Ghost Hardware

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I completely understand why we would want Martial, makes a lot of sense as he is very adept at playing upfront and on the wing and would probably get in our starting 11 as well as only being 22. Zaha on the other hand I’m just really not fussed. He wouldn’t get in my starting 11 (yes I know I’m not the manger) and I don’t see him as being good enough to fill the back up striker slot which Martial could. Seeing as we are pretty stacked for wide players atm, the only reason we should be looking at one is if they are a upgrade on what we have. I understand the desire for a shiny new toy but I don’t see why we need to spend money on someone who won’t improve our starting 11. I know others really rate him and I get why, I just don’t feel the same.

Edit: I am well aware that Zaha finished the season with 10 or so games as a stiker, but that’s hardly comparable to Martial who has played as a forward throughout his career. And from what I remember from those games he tended to drift around a lot. I personaly wouldn’t feel comfortable with him being our primary back up striker anymore then I do Son.
 
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SpartanSpur

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tottenham-everton-plot-wilfried-zaha-12949196

Tottenham and Everton plot Wilfried Zaha player-plus-cash transfer offers rather than meet Crystal Palace's £60million asking price

Moussa Sissoko and Eagles old boy Yannick Bolasie are names in the frame to be offered as makeweights

The Wilfried Zaha saga has taken a fresh twist with Tottenham and Everton now planning part-exchange bids for the £60million-rated star.

Long-term suitors Spurs are unwilling to meet Crystal Palace’s valuation of Zaha but willing to offer a player as a makeweight to try to bring their cash outlay down.

France midfielder Moussa Sissoko is one player they may look to include in any deal.

Meanwhile, Everton are ready to give Palace the chance to re-sign former favourite Yannick Bolasie and offer cash on top in an attempt to land Zaha.

The Blues value Bolasie at around £15m.

Germany’s Borussia Dortmund are also lining up a big-money bid for Zaha, while ambitious West Ham are understood to have baulked at their London rivals' valuation.

As MirrorFootball reported, the 25-year-old is keen to move on and has turned down Palace’s offer to make him their new £125,000-per-week highest earner, which led to contract talks being shelved.

Zaha has made no secret of his own ambitions, and he and his representatives are understood to have been left concerned by recent comments from boss Roy Hodgson.

The Ivory Coast international, who also won caps for England before committing to the country of his birth, was an inspirational figure last season in a successful fight against relegation.

But Hodgson has warned Palace are preparing for another battle against the drop in the new season, adding that they “haven’t really got a lot of money” to improve a squad which has already been weakened by Yohan Cabaye’s exit, Ruben Loftus-Cheek’s return to parent club Chelsea from loan and the likely departure on a free of Bakary Sako.

Palace are determined to hold onto talisman Zaha and, earlier in the summer, considered him worth more than any sum of money they may receive.

And they remain in a strong position as there are still four years left on the £100,000-per-week contract he signed last summer.

What I don't get is how Palace can simultaneously be determined to keep him and yet also have a clearly defined asking price.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Yeah fine, I don't mind Zaha but come on. £70m? We have no midfield. I'd rather that was directed there tbh.
We clearly want to shift loads of players so I don't see why we can't do both.
 

dagraham

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I never said I didn't want us to bring in good players. I get the impression some people just want us to spend a lot of money. £70m on Wilifred Zaha seems ridiculous to me.

I agree It is ridiculous, but the whole of football in 2018 is ridiculous as far as money is concerned. The wages players receive and the money the clubs receive from the insane TV deal is ridiculous.

Zaha will have a premium because he’s Palace’s prize asset and also because he’s already proven in the PL.

Also don’t underestimate the effect investing in players and spending money has on the other players already at the club. They don’t care whether something’s great value or not, but they are more likely to stay if they see us making big moves in the transfer market.
 

rossdapep

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Offer them Nkoudou, Sissoko & Janssen + £20M-£30m and I'm happy to see how he gets on
Yeah, this makes the most sense to us but perhaps not Palace.

Zaha>>>>
Janssen = Gives us the goals that Janssen was supposed to.
Sissoko = Can carry the ball at speed and directness much better.
N'Koudou = Provides us with the width, pace and trickery that N'koudou was supposed to.

It's so disappointing to think what may have been if we hadn't have behaved as we've heard with this one.
 

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Unless there are some serious injury issues, which there could be hence the previous transfer collapse, I would much rather go spend 50 mil on Fekir then 60 on Zaha, hell, I would rather spend 60 on Fekir then 60 on Zaha. But that’s just personal preference as I think Fekir is qulity and has an excellent footballing brain were as I find Zaha more reactionary. Not that it really matters what I think.
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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Because they really, really want Sissoko and have done for some time

They've lost Loftus-Cheek & Cabaye this summer though. They definitely need to strengthen and it seems like they don't need have the money to do so listening to Hodgsons comments the other day.

I'd do them a solid and throw GKN in there along with Fernando & Janssen as well, just to ensure they feel loved if end up pulling their pants down whoops I mean successfully negotiate a deal for their most prized asset
 

rossdapep

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Unless there are some serious injury issues, which there could be hence the previous transfer collapse, I would much rather go spend 50 mil on Fekir then 60 on Zaha, hell, I would rather spend 60 on Fekir then 60 on Zaha. But that’s just personal preference as I think Fekir is qulity and has an excellent footballing brain were as I find Zaha more reactionary. Not that it really matters what I think.
Here's the thing. We have absolutely no clue if Fekir is as good as people think he is, there is far more risk attached to spending huge sums of money on players who are a success in the French league (Lacazette).

With Zaha, we know exactly how he will be. Poch seems to rate him highly and if Poch rates him highly and we know he can excel in the league it makes much more sense to spend big on him.
 

ToDarrenIsToDo

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Here's the thing. We have absolutely no clue if Fekir is as good as people think he is, there is far more risk attached to spending huge sums of money on players who are a success in the French league (Lacazette).

With Zaha, we know exactly how he will be. Poch seems to rate him highly and if Poch rates him highly and we know he can excel in the league it makes much more sense to spend big on him.

Thauvin had a huge season in Ligue 1 last season and look how well he did when on these shores. It's all hear say but the Premier League is a different animal. That's why players with proven Premier League experience always go for more
 

SpartanSpur

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I completely understand why we would want Martial, makes a lot of sense as he is very adept at playing upfront and on the wing and would probably get in our starting 11 as well as only being 22. Zaha on the other hand I’m just really not fussed. He wouldn’t get in my starting 11 (yes I know I’m not the manger) and I don’t see him as being good enough to fill the back up striker slot which Martial could. Seeing as we are pretty stacked for wide players atm, the only reason we should be looking at one is if they are a upgrade on what we have. I understand the desire for a shiny new toy but I don’t see why we need to spend money on someone who won’t improve our starting 11. I know others really rate him and I get why, I just don’t feel the same.

He finished the season playing as a striker and was known as much as a striker as a winger when he broke through at Palace.

This bit is not directed at you:-

Feel like there's a bit of bad rep here because he plays for Palace. He was widely regarded as one of the best players outside the top 6 along with Mahrez.

As I've said before I'm getting a bit of a Wanyama vibe from this thread. I think Zaha could cause havoc in our side, he is direct, skilful and unpredictable.
 

SpartanSpur

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Unless there are some serious injury issues, which there could be hence the previous transfer collapse, I would much rather go spend 50 mil on Fekir then 60 on Zaha, hell, I would rather spend 60 on Fekir then 60 on Zaha. But that’s just personal preference as I think Fekir is qulity and has an excellent footballing brain were as I find Zaha more reactionary. Not that it really matters what I think.

I do get where you are coming from here on the footballing brain thing, but it seems Poch is looking for something specific and he does fit that bill IMHO.
 

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Here's the thing. We have absolutely no clue if Fekir is as good as people think he is, there is far more risk attached to spending huge sums of money on players who are a success in the French league (Lacazette).

With Zaha, we know exactly how he will be. Poch seems to rate him highly and if Poch rates him highly and we know he can excel in the league it makes much more sense to spend big on him.
We could just as easily say we have no clue how Zaha will perform in a team that plays possession football rather then counter attack. I understand the argument about players from foreign leagues but Fekir has been an excellent prospect for a while and is finally fulfilling his promis after injury. He’s not just a flash in the pan. There is no exact science to football scouting and for every Lacazette there could also be a Hazard. As mentioned, I like Fekir because I like the way he plays and has an excellent footballing brain. Poch is obviously a fan of Zaha but I’m just not so hot on him. I don’t think he’s bad but he wouldn’t get ahead of Son or Lamela for me and I would like Moura to get a proper chance before we splash out on Zaha. Yes I know Son will be gone for a while but what happens when he’s back. I guess time will tell. Obviously I will back him if we get him, I just dont rate him at the prices mentioned. But Poch does and that’s ultimately what matters most.
 
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Spurrific

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This is the one we’ll chase to the end of the window, until he signs a new contract and we bring Kaziah Sterling through
 
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