The Mauricio Pochettino thread

ToDarrenIsToDo · Jul 30, 2018

Gb160 said:
Im a regular, and if any other regulars were seriously expecting us to go mental in the transfer market, then obviously they weren't listening to Poch's comments before the season ended.
He said that we had to be clever in the transfer market, and different to the other big clubs.
His brave comment was imo, obviously about our wage structure, which we coincidentally happened to smash a few weeks later.

Not exactly being brave though is it? Tying down members of staff who are hot property globally by giving them a wage that kind of reflects their worth.

If that's the clubs idea of bravery they really aren't getting what To Dare Is To Do actually means are they?

I think you're struggling to come to terms with this window potentially showing Daniel Levy up for not having a different mindset to when we were a mid table club in the transfer window. My opinion is that the contract extensions weren't brave, they were a necessity and even still we are coming up short getting the Dele, Eriksen & Jan deals over the line

Gb160 · Jul 30, 2018

ToDarrenIsToDo said:
Not exactly being brave though is it? Tying down members of staff who are hot property globally by giving them a wage that kind of reflects their worth.

If that's the clubs idea of bravery they really aren't getting what To Dare Is To Do actually means are they?

I think you're struggling to come to terms with this window potentially showing Daniel Levy up for not having a different mindset to when we were a mid table club in the transfer window. My opinion is that the contract extensions weren't brave, they were a necessity and even still we are coming up short getting the Dele, Eriksen & Jan deals over the line

Im not struggling with anything bud.
Im quite happy tbh, keeping our best players and manager was the most important thing to me and that seems all sewed up.

If you were expecting loads of massive signings then you're just naive mate, we were told by Poch the new stadium wouldn't instantly mean loads of cash to spend, but you've completely ignored that havent you?

Real_madyidd · Jul 30, 2018

ToDarrenIsToDo said:
Not exactly being brave though is it? Tying down members of staff who are hot property globally by giving them a wage that kind of reflects their worth.

If that's the clubs idea of bravery they really aren't getting what To Dare Is To Do actually means are they?

I think you're struggling to come to terms with this window potentially showing Daniel Levy up for not having a different mindset to when we were a mid table club in the transfer window. My opinion is that the contract extensions weren't brave, they were a necessity and even still we are coming up short getting the Dele, Eriksen & Jan deals over the line

I disagree with you but see your point. I think breaking our rigid wage structure was brave as we are essentually getting rid of our normal excuse of "punching obove our weight". We are also now saying that we are not a "stepping stone" club and that we want to be firmly at the top table. Having said that, our actions so far do not appear to support that stance. However - over the last few years we have alsways done our business late in the window. Let's put the nooses and razor blades away for a couple of weeks.

ToDarrenIsToDo · Jul 30, 2018

Gb160 said:
Im not struggling with anything bud.
Im quite happy tbh, keeping our best players and manager was the most important thing to me and that seems all sewed up.

If you were expecting loads of massive signings then you're just naive mate, we were told by Poch the new stadium wouldn't instantly mean loads of cash to spend, but you've completely ignored that havent you?

Wasn't expecting massive signings, but what I do think is naive is to think that a few contract extensions is being brave.

I know the areas of the team that require improvements and I expect a club like Tottenham to have sufficient scouting networks and money available, like Daniel Levy has said there is to get signings over the line.

We have a genuine chance to kick on this year with a couple of extra players in the squad but with 10 days left to go until the window closes, I think our manager and the majority of fans have every right to be scratching their heads as to the whole being brave spiel.

£0 spent with 10 days left, hardly bravery at its most courageous is it? And if Pochettino meant being brave was to blood youngsters, the club should have highlighted that instead of take fans on a bit of a merry go round at a time where they were trying to sell season tickets.

I expect more than £0 spend for a top 3 club with all the tools to kick on and I do expect us to shell out a sufficient amount of money to ensure the rest of the squad isn't hindered going into another gruelling season where we battle on four different fronts

Ben1 · Jul 30, 2018

Why the extremes? Do nothing or 'expecting loads of massive signings' as its put? Ive seen no one demanding loads of massive signings...most people want 2/3 at most, of which one is replacing a quality player we're willing to let go.

As for 'massive', depends what you consider massive in this market. 40-60mil, for example, is not a groundbreaking deal at all.

Deleted member 27995 · Jul 30, 2018

Ben1 said:
Why the extremes? Do nothing or 'expecting loads of massive signings' as its put? Ive seen no one demanding loads of massive signings...most people want 2/3 at most, of which one is replacing a quality player we're willing to let go.

As for 'massive', depends what you consider massive in this market. 40-60mil, for example, is not a groundbreaking deal at all.

Anything over 42 million breaks our transfer record - it would be ground breaking.

Ben1 · Jul 30, 2018

Vinny_Sammways_left_peg said:
Anything over 42 million breaks our transfer record - it would be ground breaking.

Yeah, breaking a transfer record isn't really a big deal these days. Look round the clubs, most are doing it a couple of times a summer.

I'm optimistic until the window closes personally and if we don't get anyone, its far from a disaster.

wrd · Jul 30, 2018

Ben1 said:
Yeah, breaking a transfer record isn't really a big deal these days. Look round the clubs, most are doing it a couple of times a summer.

I'm optimistic until the window closes personally and if we don't get anyone, its far from a disaster.

It's to be expected year on year with the influx of tv money and the change of the market.

Deleted member 27995 · Jul 30, 2018

Ben1 said:
Yeah, breaking a transfer record isn't really a big deal these days. Look round the clubs, most are doing it a couple of times a summer.

I'm optimistic until the window closes personally and if we don't get anyone, its far from a disaster.

Okay.

Ben1 · Jul 30, 2018

Vinny_Sammways_left_peg said:
Okay.

At least 15 of the 20 prem clubs have done it in the last 12 months. Hardly noteworthy. Okay.

Deleted member 27995 · Jul 30, 2018

Ben1 said:
At least 15 of the 20 prem clubs have done it in the last 12 months. Hardly noteworthy. Okay.

How many of them have spent in excess of 40 million doing it? IF they have spent in excess of that, it makes the news. It's kinda ground breaking, but as you say okay, it isn't a big deal ...

Moving on.

King of Otters · Jul 30, 2018

Gb160 said:
Im a regular, and if any other regulars were seriously expecting us to go mental in the transfer market, then obviously they weren't listening to Poch's comments before the season ended.
He said that we had to be clever in the transfer market, and different to the other big clubs.
His brave comment was imo, obviously about our wage structure, which we coincidentally happened to smash a few weeks later.

Except it's not 'obvious', at all, is it? Giving a pay rise to your best performing players is what every solvent football club on the planet practices. It quite obviously not 'being brave' or 'taking risks'. It's just common sense.

Poch's comments were in reference to our transfer policy, that much should be clear even to the most ardent fan-boy.

tiger666 · Jul 30, 2018

ToDarrenIsToDo said:
Wasn't expecting massive signings, but what I do think is naive is to think that a few contract extensions is being brave.

I know the areas of the team that require improvements and I expect a club like Tottenham to have sufficient scouting networks and money available, like Daniel Levy has said there is to get signings over the line.

We have a genuine chance to kick on this year with a couple of extra players in the squad but with 10 days left to go until the window closes, I think our manager and the majority of fans have every right to be scratching their heads as to the whole being brave spiel.

£0 spent with 10 days left, hardly bravery at its most courageous is it? And if Pochettino meant being brave was to blood youngsters, the club should have highlighted that instead of take fans on a bit of a merry go round at a time where they were trying to sell season tickets.

I expect more than £0 spend for a top 3 club with all the tools to kick on and I do expect us to shell out a sufficient amount of money to ensure the rest of the squad isn't hindered going into another gruelling season where we battle on four different fronts

Fucking hell I wish people would stop quoting this "Brave" comment. Far too many posters on here are clinging to this.

allatsea · Jul 30, 2018

tiger666 said:
Fucking hell I wish people would stop quoting this "Brave" comment. Far too many posters on here are clinging to this.

I think I am being “brave” coming on here everyday with so many losing their cool.

Gb160 · Jul 30, 2018

King of Otters said:
Except it's not 'obvious', at all, is it? Giving a pay rise to your best performing players is what every solvent football club on the planet practices. It quite obviously not 'being brave' or 'taking risks'. It's just common sense.

Poch's comments were in reference to our transfer policy, that much should be clear even to the most ardent fan-boy.

Except it's not 'clear', at all, is it?
You've just taken it to mean what you would really like it to mean.

King of Otters · Jul 30, 2018

Gb160 said:
Except it's not 'clear', at all, is it?
You've just taken it to mean what you would really like it to mean.

No, I've used logical deduction to demonstrate why his comments could not have been in reference to extending the contracts of players already on long term deals.

You don't have a response to that, because there's no way anyone can reasonably argue that those comments were in relation to anything other than our transfer policy.

whatislifewithoutspurs · Jul 30, 2018

You guys misinterpreted everything. "Being brave" means going into the new season with no signings. To dare is to do!

nicdic · Jul 30, 2018

Being brave means exactly and only what I want to happen in the transfer window.

Lo Amo Speroni · Jul 30, 2018

He has signed a 5 year contract worth £40m over that period. He has an exciting young team on long contracts. He aint going to throw his toys out of the pram bacause he didn't get who he wanted in the transfer window.

Gb160 · Jul 30, 2018

King of Otters said:
Except it's not 'obvious', at all, is it? Giving a pay rise to your best performing players is what every solvent football club on the planet practices. It quite obviously not 'being brave' or 'taking risks'. It's just common sense.

Poch's comments were in reference to our transfer policy, that much should be clear even to the most ardent fan-boy.

Except it's not just a pay rise is it?, it makes Harry Kane one of the highest earning strikers in the league, for a club with the 5th/6th highest revenue.
Pretty damn brave if you ask me.

Look, you've nailed your colours to the wall, I've no problem with that, but to just dismiss the possibility that there is any other interpretation of Pochs comments is very blinkered imo.

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