fecka
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They usually take that into account though, at least here they do.
Player Watch: Hugo Lloris
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They usually take that into account though, at least here they do.
sam1972
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I condemn drink driving I hope they throw the book at him.
I think the holier than thou attitude of some people on here is pathetic.
It that clear enough for you?
Saoirse
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More like a third of a bottle of wine, or two pints of beer. Yes, it's far too high.
MyNameIsNicolaBerti
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Drunk? Maybe not. Impaire judgement? Yes.
E17yid
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You can't just say "I go by the rule" that's not how it works.
The point is, under the current law or any law that has a limit, is that they can't say a half or a pint or a glass of wine because people react to it differently to different amounts.
I agree, there should be no limit. Looking at it objectively, and seeing as we ban pretty much every other intoxicating substance, it's amazing that alcohol is even legal in the first place let alone that we actually allow people to drive with it in their systems.
fecka
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Not really but hey, freedom of speech and all that.
Saoirse
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My personal opinion is more that said other substances should probably be legal in most cases. If you want to put yourself at risk that's generally your prerogative, and it's not like prohibition ever proves to be very effective. But putting other people at risk is completely incomparable.
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I don't claim to know exactly how they do in the UK, but in Denmark it's decided by the blood test alone, as that is the only test that have true evidential value. As it's indeed different from person to person how quickly you burn alcohol, it's not possible to calculate with enough precision what the alcohol level was at the exact time the person was stopped, so it's the blood test that is the decider.
Exactly the point I was trying to make, the term drunk being banded about has connotations of falling over, vomiting in a gutter. His judgement was obviously impaired otherwise the prat wouldn't have got behind the wheel, but until we know the facts, implying he was "drunk" is not fair. I would be very surprised if it turns out he was massively over the limit, he just does not seem the type.
MyNameIsNicolaBerti
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Getting behind the wheel of a car after a drink is an elective action. It can be avoided by simply not doing it. To do it begins to create a danger.
An former colleague of mine lost his wife and daughter to a drink driver and that guy wasn’t massively over the limit.
I’m getting tired of this apologist nonsense. He is a public figure, an idol to youngsters and a highly paid professional athlete whose physical health is important. It is also a risk to get behind the wheel over the last limit. At least two machines independent of each other have shown scientifically that he was over the limit. That means he was irresponsible as an employee, a public figure and as a member of the general public.
Do you know that next to guns drink driving is one of the highest causes of death over in America?
If you’re behind the wheel and over the limit not only are you a criminal, you’re flat out risking lives. It’s utterly farcical that people are being called holier than thou for caring about the lives of innocent people. In fact, it’s despicable.
Makkaveli101
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So many halo wearing perfect people in this thread that have never made a mistake in their lives.
These things can all be true:
1. Hugo made a big mistake
2. He can be supported by his boss (Poch) and employer (club)
3. He can be punished in the courts (likely lose his license for a year or so)
4. He can show remorse and perhaps turn this bad into a good - PSA's/ charity work etc.
5. Fans can be unhappy with the action and support him because of what he means to us and the club
6. Not go ballistic online and remember that humans make mistakes (which is why I look forward to the day we have driverless cars....humans are stupid and dangerous behind the wheel with or without drink
1. Hugo made a big mistake
2. He can be supported by his boss (Poch) and employer (club)
3. He can be punished in the courts (likely lose his license for a year or so)
4. He can show remorse and perhaps turn this bad into a good - PSA's/ charity work etc.
5. Fans can be unhappy with the action and support him because of what he means to us and the club
6. Not go ballistic online and remember that humans make mistakes (which is why I look forward to the day we have driverless cars....humans are stupid and dangerous behind the wheel with or without drink
MyNameIsNicolaBerti
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Well drunk isn’t a defined scientific term so I wouldn’t get too nitpicky about it.
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Just to put another slant on it.
My parent (Mum and Dad) were killed by a drunk driver this last Good Friday.
It was in the afternoon, the killer was 22 and out of his mind.
Did not get a custodial sentence and lives further down in the same street .
Lloris and anyone else who drives drunk deserves a proper punishment.
It has F***ed up my life.
Have not seen him since the trial, but I will and I really do not know how I will react.
My parent (Mum and Dad) were killed by a drunk driver this last Good Friday.
It was in the afternoon, the killer was 22 and out of his mind.
Did not get a custodial sentence and lives further down in the same street .
Lloris and anyone else who drives drunk deserves a proper punishment.
It has F***ed up my life.
Have not seen him since the trial, but I will and I really do not know how I will react.
WalkerboyUK
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Whilst this is true, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him stripped of captaincy in the short term by Poch. Players know what is expected of them by the club, both on and off the pitch. He is in the public eye and is a role model to lots of kids.
WalkerboyUK
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That renders the blood test pointless really as it should purely be about level at the time you were driving.
Spurrific
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I've never done anything that has frequently led to accidents and death. Drink-driving is absolutely abhorrent - even just a bit over the limit and he's endangering his own life and the lives of others. He has a young daughter and shouldn't be so stupid.
I think a good way perhaps is, if this is true as it seems to be, then maybe not play him for three to five games as a 'ban' in football.
I wouldnt strip him off his captaincy - he made a mistake and needs to be rightfully punished by the club and the law BUT the mistake doesnt deserve an 'eternal' punishment.
I wouldnt strip him off his captaincy - he made a mistake and needs to be rightfully punished by the club and the law BUT the mistake doesnt deserve an 'eternal' punishment.
Saoirse
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Just in terms of the legal consequences Hugo will face:
At a minimum, he'll be banned from driving for a year, and pay a fairly substantial fine - this is by far the most likely outcomes considering he's of otherwise good character, will have a very good lawyer, and as far as we know wasn't falling-on-the-floor drunk.
If however his blood alcohol level was at least 200mg (2.5x the limit and very, very roughly equivalent to perhaps having had 5 pints), he'll probably face a community order which could impact his ability to play for us - he'd have to do a fairly large amount of unpaid work, anywhere between 40 and 300 hours, although he may be given dispensation to do this in the off-season (still not ideal of course when he's meant to be resting), and could also be given a curfew requirement for some time which may prevent him playing in evening kick-off matches.
If his blood alcohol level was at least 275mg (nearly 3.5x the limit and again very roughly perhaps 7 pints), he'd likely go to prison for a few weeks (although might get away with a suspended sentence - the further above this he was, the less likely that is).
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.u...s-alcohol-driveattempt-to-drive-revised-2017/
At a minimum, he'll be banned from driving for a year, and pay a fairly substantial fine - this is by far the most likely outcomes considering he's of otherwise good character, will have a very good lawyer, and as far as we know wasn't falling-on-the-floor drunk.
If however his blood alcohol level was at least 200mg (2.5x the limit and very, very roughly equivalent to perhaps having had 5 pints), he'll probably face a community order which could impact his ability to play for us - he'd have to do a fairly large amount of unpaid work, anywhere between 40 and 300 hours, although he may be given dispensation to do this in the off-season (still not ideal of course when he's meant to be resting), and could also be given a curfew requirement for some time which may prevent him playing in evening kick-off matches.
If his blood alcohol level was at least 275mg (nearly 3.5x the limit and again very roughly perhaps 7 pints), he'd likely go to prison for a few weeks (although might get away with a suspended sentence - the further above this he was, the less likely that is).
https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.u...s-alcohol-driveattempt-to-drive-revised-2017/
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