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eViL

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Where the fuck did UEFA find that referee? I think the Lloris red card could have gone either way but some of the less key decisions were mind boggling never mind the chalked off goal.
 

kaz Hirai

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Just read this....

Spurs boss Mauricio Pochettino told BT Sport: "[Our chances of qualifying are] nearly over. We'll see what happens now in the game between Barcelona and Inter Milan but with only one point after three games, it will be so difficult.

"If we need to blame someone it's ourselves because with all the situations and the circumstances in the game you must win because I think we were much better than them.

"But the tempo sometimes was so slow and it's a situation where we need to think a little bit because in this type of game, at 2-1 you must kill the game. If not, the opponent is alive.

"The situation with Hugo was maybe unfair but that can happen in football. But if you score more goals you are going to win the game. That is why we are so disappointed, not with the decisions but with ourselves because it's a game you must win."

Can someone please explain to me what was 'unfair' about sending Hugo off ????


Ahh that's good to hear about the tempo and not killing the game off.
 

Sweetsman

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Goalkeeping depends on reflexes, agility, bravery and decision-making. Lloris has been deficient in the last one for a while.
 

Sweetsman

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And another recurring problem: what is it with Davinson Sanchez and his lack of aerial awareness? It's almost guaranteed that he will lose the ball when it's in the air.
As a team, towards the end of games we start falling back, thus allowing opposition playmakers time on the ball. It's when we need to press hard.
 

dickieven

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Well it is not over in the group. Win our remaining 3 games and we'll be on 10 points and we need to hope Inter do not win at home to Barca. Then we will be through although may come down to head-to-head record against Inter and away goals.

Such a disappointment as so much was good about our play for 80 minutes. Before the sending off they put up a stat on tv stating we had 11 second half shots and PSV had zero. We completely controlled that second half for 35 mins. If we had got the 3rd goal (good chances for Kane and Lamela) then we would have been home and hosed. A stupid mistake by Eriksen to give the ball away and a worse mistake by Hugo for the red card (a correct sending off in my book) that changed the game. Even then though their goal was very sloppy and we still looked the team more likely to score again in the last 5 minutes.

It is strange but bar the last 10 mins in Milan and the last 10 mins here our two away Champions League performances have been pretty good. As a poster before said that a big difference this season is we get sloppy at the end of games. In the last coiple of season our fitness and concentration has meant we very rarely let leads slip. But this season that has cost us in these two away group games and also away at Watford in the league, which by the way if we had held on would mean we would be top of the league. Such small margins.

Anyway I still believe. COYS
 

shelfboy68

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If we don't improve, absolutely. We play with such close margins and as a result we leave too much chance from something to go wrong. The football just has to get better.
Like everyone else I hope we improve naturally but I think this form is in for the season the tone was set during the summer with the club refusing to improve the squad, and then along with the squad not looking prepared fully it has lead to a sloppy and disastrous CL campaign and turgid stuff in the PL even though currently the team is 2 points off top you wonder how.
Yet again stupid mistakes and rank bad defending have cost us and it's becoming all too familiar with poch seemingly not able to sort this shit out on the training field.
There can be no excuses why the squad was not strengthened none of this the players were not available BS as players are always available if you prepared to pay for them, levy and co decided they didn't fancy the prices and so walked away leaving the team not as good as it should be for a CL campaign which in fairness apart from Barcelona we should be getting out of the group but yet again the club have fucked up a promising situation and turned it into a laughable one.
 

shelfboy68

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Well it is not over in the group. Win our remaining 3 games and we'll be on 10 points and we need to hope Inter do not win at home to Barca. Then we will be through although may come down to head-to-head record against Inter and away goals.

Such a disappointment as so much was good about our play for 80 minutes. Before the sending off they put up a stat on tv stating we had 11 second half shots and PSV had zero. We completely controlled that second half for 35 mins. If we had got the 3rd goal (good chances for Kane and Lamela) then we would have been home and hosed. A stupid mistake by Eriksen to give the ball away and a worse mistake by Hugo for the red card (a correct sending off in my book) that changed the game. Even then though their goal was very sloppy and we still looked the team more likely to score again in the last 5 minutes.

It is strange but bar the last 10 mins in Milan and the last 10 mins here our two away Champions League performances have been pretty good. As a poster before said that a big difference this season is we get sloppy at the end of games. In the last coiple of season our fitness and concentration has meant we very rarely let leads slip. But this season that has cost us in these two away group games and also away at Watford in the league, which by the way if we had held on would mean we would be top of the league. Such small margins.

Anyway I still believe. COYS
We are not qualifying from the group mate it's over this year for us.
 

luptic

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Its not over just yet, but we face a real up hill task. Hopefully the pain of the result will spur us on, be brave on all fronts. Look at last season for example Dortmund (new coach i know) and this season.
For me like some would agree there is a staleness with our squad, and it needs to be refreshed. I love Hugo but maybe he reached the top now and is in decline, maybe winning the world cup has that turning point for him. There was no reason to come out last night.
So many faults of our making killed the game for us last.
One thing i found strange is why the Barcelona match wasnt on at the same time? Its really is a stupid decision to have two group games on at different times from the rest.
 
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shelfmonkey

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We might not be quite as good technically, but I still don't think they, on the whole across 90 minutes, do many more remarkable things than us. A lot of our players are just too fond of taking an extra five touches of the ball rather than one/two touch and part of it is not having it coached out of them. When we do have moments where we play like this, we look infinitely better, always have, even when we've been at our most rampant in recent seasons.

If you watch games, win lose or draw, we also have far too many players standing still - this is something that when I watch matches with my old man he is always going ballistic about, even more so this season, and when you start watching for it you see it does happen. Which is why, allied to the lack of quick passing, I think sometimes it becomes a struggle for us to construct play through the centre of the pitch. We need to rethink, and evolve, as a team (and that doesn't just mean sign new players).

You're old man and me are singing off the same hymn sheet mate, we are statuesque plodders and it drives me absolutely bananas!!
 

shelfmonkey

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What's happened to the drive and energy of our team? Even the management team look bored with it all. Last was another example that the team seems to have lost it's way and Poch has lost interest in 'the project'.
 

shelfboy68

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Its not over just yet, but we face a real up hill task. Hopefully the pain of the result will spur us on, be brave on all fronts. Look at last season for example Dortmund (new coach i know) and this season.
For me like some would agree there is a staleness with our squad, and it needs to be refreshed. I love Hugo but maybe he reached the top now and is in decline, maybe winning the world cup has that turning point for him. There was no reason to come out last night.
So many faults of our making killed the game for us last.
One thing i found strange is why the Barcelona match wasnt on at the same time? Its really is a stupid decision to have two group games on at different times from the rest.
The squad has gone stale I agree but also the team has become a group of plodders passing it about from side to side for the sake of it instead of looking for the quick early incisive ball, city and Liverpool have shown the way on quick passing and exciting football that leaves our slow paced game out in the wilderness.
 

allatsea

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What's happened to the drive and energy of our team? Even the management team look bored with it all. Last was another example that the team seems to have lost it's way and Poch has lost interest in 'the project'.

Has Poch taken Spurs as far as he can ? Perhaps this is as good as it gets with him and last season was the high water mark ? I don’t know the answer to these questions but we clearly need a couple of top draw players in January or we face a season of drift.
 

SugarRay

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I admire some of the optimism but we’ve not shown we can claw a situation like this back.

The Europa will kill us and we can’t win it so maybe finishing bottom could be a blessing?
Have a real go at the league and FA cups
 

doctor stefan Freud

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Has Poch taken Spurs as far as he can ? Perhaps this is as good as it gets with him and last season was the high water mark ? I don’t know the answer to these questions but we clearly need a couple of top draw players in January or we face a season of drift.
We’re never going to fork out the going rate for top draw players. At best we pay good money for potential in January but I can’t realistically see this happening either. Levy has publicly stated that player fees and wages are hyper inflated and unsustainable- not sure if this really is the case; people have been claiming this about the Premier League for years and the bubble has yet to burst. With Poch refusing mediocre players, it’ll have to be remarkable or opportunistic (though the Grealish affair suggests this is also fraught with problems) circumstances for us to actually get players that improve the squad, let alone the starting eleven, especially in January
 

Seafordian Spurs

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I admire some of the optimism but we’ve not shown we can claw a situation like this back.

The Europa will kill us and we can’t win it so maybe finishing bottom could be a blessing?
Have a real go at the league and FA cups

Yup. Hate to say it but I genuinely hope we finish bottom now. Europa will be an awful, chastening competition for this stretched and demotivated squad to play in. We should focus on the domestic stuff.
 

spursfan77

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I actually thought attacking wise that was one of our best performances of the season. We just didn’t score the goals.

Such a disappointing result though.
 

allatsea

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We’re never going to fork out the going rate for top draw players. At best we pay good money for potential in January but I can’t realistically see this happening either. Levy has publicly stated that player fees and wages are hyper inflated and unsustainable- not sure if this really is the case; people have been claiming this about the Premier League for years and the bubble has yet to burst. With Poch refusing mediocre players, it’ll have to be remarkable or opportunistic (though the Grealish affair suggests this is also fraught with problems) circumstances for us to actually get players that improve the squad, let alone the starting eleven, especially in January
Either we bring in what Poch wants in January or very early in the next Summer Window or he leaves IMO. It is that simple.
 

shelfboy68

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Yup. Hate to say it but I genuinely hope we finish bottom now. Europa will be an awful, chastening competition for this stretched and demotivated squad to play in. We should focus on the domestic stuff.
That leaves both the cups which I would go along with.
 
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