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coys200

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Why the negativity?

Haven’t we just beaten Arsenal in a key match to progress to the semis of the League Cup ? Haven’t we just thrashed Chelsea at Chelsea ? What more has Poch to do to stop such negative posts as yours ?

It’s not negative it’s just fact. In the crucial defining moments we’ve failed. I see today as crucial considering the fixtures coming. Win today and we could be right there come the new year.
 

JimmyG2

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Any chance of a self imposed silence
on the Poch. to Man.Utd saga
until at least the end of the season.
From my extensive research it appears that
A) Poch would be mad to turn it down
or B) would be crazy to take it.
Whether we think he will
or are convinced he won't
won't affect his difficult decision.
Can we have a poll
and then forget all about it.
otherwise it will run and run
into oblivion.
 

Gb160

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Any chance of a self imposed silence
on the Poch. to Man.Utd saga
until at least the end of the season.
From my extensive research it appears that
A) Poch would be mad to turn it down
or B) would be crazy to take it.
Whether we think he will
or are convinced he won't
won't affect his difficult decision.
Can we have a poll
and then forget all about it.
otherwise it will run and run
into oblivion.
If you really don't wanna read it
Then why even enter the thread?
Instead of complaining, go off and find
Something you like instead.
*drops mic

(PS It's a massive story and this is a Spurs forum, this discussion is inevitable)
 

The Doc

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Any chance of a self imposed silence
on the Poch. to Man.Utd saga
until at least the end of the season.
From my extensive research it appears that
A) Poch would be mad to turn it down
or B) would be crazy to take it.
Whether we think he will
or are convinced he won't
won't affect his difficult decision.
Can we have a poll
and then forget all about it.
otherwise it will run and run
into oblivion.

I'm all in for a poll. Suggest we are given a binary option. Let's say they should be "Leave" or "Remain". Once the result has been announced, am confident everyone will accept the result and we will all move on.
 

spids

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It’s not negative it’s just fact. In the crucial defining moments we’ve failed. I see today as crucial considering the fixtures coming. Win today and we could be right there come the new year.

You are so wrong. We'll find out a lot about the team - not about Poch. If the players fall short again (in the way you are suggesting they repeatedly do) we need better players not a different manager. But I think 99.9% of Spurs fans know that we need better players to win the compete properly for the league.
 

Tit&Ham

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Us and Pool were in a similar situation but just look at the investment they've had and you see them flying at the moment. Maybe Poch is looking at them a little envious. Come on levy put some zip in the project, or he might be off.

That same club has made similar investment for 10 years without succeeding! This time it seems to pay off - but man...!

We are quite on the opposite side of the scale though, and wouldn’t hurt to try for once...
 

coys200

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Decent debate on the Sunday supplement. Tbh from neutrals ponit of view for the educated media it’s a very interesting debate that encompasses lots of aspects. And if he does stay, going forward I’d suggest it severely diminishes Uniteds aura and power as a bully boy. Gone will be the assumption you can’t say no to Manchester United.
 

easley91

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It’s not negative it’s just fact. In the crucial defining moments we’ve failed. I see today as crucial considering the fixtures coming. Win today and we could be right there come the new year.
Like we 'bottled' it in the CL group stage when needing a result away to Barcelona we GOT it.

This squad and Poch have come a long way from the soft Spurs of old, have some faith. They fight until the very end. Last minute winner against Burnley, goals in last 10 against PSV, Inter and Barca. Just beaten Arsenal away after losing there 4-2 just a couple weeks prior.

Why the negativity? Poch is right with some of our fans. Need to have faith and believe in him and the team.
 

coys200

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Like we 'bottled' it in the CL group stage when needing a result away to Barcelona we GOT it.

This squad and Poch have come a long way from the soft Spurs of old, have some faith. They fight until the very end. Last minute winner against Burnley, goals in last 10 against PSV, Inter and Barca. Just beaten Arsenal away after losing there 4-2 just a couple weeks prior.

Why the negativity? Poch is right with some of our fans. Need to have faith and believe in him and the team.

Once again it’s not negative it’s just reality. Until Pochettino gets us over the line to win something there has to be a question mark if he is capable of doing it. That doesn’t detract from being a great coach or man manager or having the ability to improve players. He could have all those qualities and does but yet not have the final quality which is the ability to win something. So until he does that doubt has to still be there.
 

Cornpattbuck

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Once again it’s not negative it’s just reality. Until Pochettino gets us over the line to win something there has to be a question mark if he is capable of doing it. That doesn’t detract from being a great coach or man manager or having the ability to improve players. He could have all those qualities and does but yet not have the final quality which is the ability to win something. So until he does that doubt has to still be there.

Go back to bed... ?
 

longtimespur

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Why the negativity?

Haven’t we just beaten Arsenal in a key match to progress to the semis of the League Cup ? Haven’t we just thrashed Chelsea at Chelsea ? What more has Poch to do to stop such negative posts as yours ?
:cautious:NOTHING will do that, just seems to be the mind set of several on here. (n):(
 

oohaahedgar

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Once again it’s not negative it’s just reality. Until Pochettino gets us over the line to win something there has to be a question mark if he is capable of doing it. That doesn’t detract from being a great coach or man manager or having the ability to improve players. He could have all those qualities and does but yet not have the final quality which is the ability to win something. So until he does that doubt has to still be there.

What you’re suggesting is Poch needs to have the ability to get over the line? That means having the ability to beat teams that have spent hundreds of millions of pounds more. No one else could do better in my opinion.
He’s won huge games that were crucial as well as losing some as well. He’s not a magician.
As for Leicester that year, that was just an incredible turn of events with a fair amount of luck going their way. It doesn’t make Ranieri an incredible manager.
I’ve said it before , we will win something sooner or later and hopefully go on from there but we are unfortunate that Man City and Chelsea have had an unfair advantage over the last 10 years or so.
Chelsea have stopped us in the League Twice, a few semi finals and finals.
As Pep said in that documentary ‘we are close, we are so close’.
No chance of Poch leaving in the next couple of seasons. He doesn’t just want to win trophies he wants to win trophies with us. Keep the faith
 

longtimespur

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Once again it’s not negative it’s just reality. Until Pochettino gets us over the line to win something there has to be a question mark if he is capable of doing it. That doesn’t detract from being a great coach or man manager or having the ability to improve players. He could have all those qualities and does but yet not have the final quality which is the ability to win something. So until he does that doubt has to still be there.

I disagree with you and hence the red cross. Why do you always write people off. You never seem to be able to accept what they have done and give them credit for that. Always what has not happened and what you predict won't happen,
Sorry but I'm done with your posts on here and SSC, can't take all your negativity anymore. It's even make me think it might be true but you or I don't have a crystal ball we only have our opinions. Read Poch's piece about believing...………. Happy Christmas and a very Merry new year to you.
 

coys200

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I disagree with you and hence the red cross. Why do you always write people off. You never seem to be able to accept what they have done and give them credit for that. Always what has not happened and what you predict won't happen,
Sorry but I'm done with your posts on here and SSC, can't take all your negativity anymore. It's even make me think it might be true but you or I don't have a crystal ball we only have our opinions. Read Poch's piece about believing...………. Happy Christmas and a very Merry new year to you.

Go and look at my posts 90% are positive and possibly 10% “ negative “ as you say. And in fact got mocked for starting a thread saying we could be an elite European club. Actually find it quite bizarre on here that 90% of what you post can be positive and as soon as you post anything that can be construed as being slightly negative people start throwing their toys out the pram.
 
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coys200

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I disagree with you and hence the red cross. Why do you always write people off. You never seem to be able to accept what they have done and give them credit for that. Always what has not happened and what you predict won't happen,
Sorry but I'm done with your posts on here and SSC, can't take all your negativity anymore. It's even make me think it might be true but you or I don't have a crystal ball we only have our opinions. Read Poch's piece about believing...………. Happy Christmas and a very Merry new year to you.

Who have I written off ? All I’ve said was until pochettino actually wins something there has to be doubt if he is capable of bringing us a trophy.
 

Phomesy

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Find out a lot about him today. There’s obviously no doubts about what strengths he has. But in a crucial moment in the season that really defines if rest of season is a title race or top 4 scrap. Does he have what it takes to get us over the line today and the 3 pts. If not it will just be another moment to add the list of failures in crucial moments.

It's like we never made it through to the last 16 of the CL from an almost impossible position...
 

longtimespur

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Who have I written off ? All I’ve said was until pochettino actually wins something there has to be doubt if he is capable of bringing us a trophy.

Ok maybe written off is a bit disingenuous but you do seem to point out failings more than accomplishments.
As for the second point please just go and read Poch's bit about having belief. This is what he's meaning IMO that so many people, especially the press, other teams fans even our own all see what hasn't been done and what is still being worked on and what has actually been accomplished so far. Everyone knows we haven't won anything yet and think that's how it will continue.
I believe our days are coming and they're not far into the future, but you'll believe what you want the same as everybody else will believe what they want. It's the way of the world.
 

longtimespur

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Go and look at my posts 90% are positive and possibly 10% “ negative “ as you say. And in fact got mocked for starting a thread saying we could be an elite European club. Actually find it quite bizarre on here that 90% of what you post can be positive and as soon as you post anything that can be construed as being slightly negative people start throwing their toys out the pram.
Sorry I'm not going to troll back through all your posts to prove it either way.:cautious: Maybe you think they are positive but my first reaction to seeing you've posted is "I wonder who or what's wrong now!"
Sorry my idea of positive and negative are somewhat apart from yours. That's ok if you're happy then that's all you should worry about.(y)
 
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