I just don't get selling him without giving him a chance in his actual position, which I think he's had once. Surely, surely he could have done a job this season.The Sun reporting that Hoffenheim and Monchengladbach both want Onomah.
Probably the right time to sell him if, given our lack of midfield options this season, Poch wasn’t interested in recalling him.
The Sun reporting that Hoffenheim and Monchengladbach both want Onomah.
Probably the right time to sell him if, given our lack of midfield options this season, Poch wasn’t interested in recalling him.
Obviously Poch just hasn’t been impressed enough with him. If we get £15m for him, a little future sell-on clause, it’s probably a good deal all round.I just don't get selling him without giving him a chance in his actual position, which I think he's had once. Surely, surely he could have done a job this season.
I agree. I just find it hard to understand why a very highly rated youth player, who's won for his England age group, wouldn't get a chance in this of all seasons. I'd rather see him given a go than Skipp, who is far from ready.Obviously Poch just hasn’t been impressed enough with him. If we get £15m for him, a little future sell-on clause, it’s probably a good deal all round.
Obviously Poch just hasn’t been impressed enough with him. If we get £15m for him, a little future sell-on clause, it’s probably a good deal all round.
Poch likes Workhorses over Skill for his CM positionsI agree. I just find it hard to understand why a very highly rated youth player, who's won for his England age group, wouldn't get a chance in this of all seasons. I'd rather see him given a go than Skipp, who is far from ready.
He’s obviously got the skills, and the physique, so I can only assume it’s application.I agree. I just find it hard to understand why a very highly rated youth player, who's won for his England age group, wouldn't get a chance in this of all seasons. I'd rather see him given a go than Skipp, who is far from ready.
Poch likes Workhorses over Skill for his CM positions
Simple as that
Eriksen drops into midfield because otherwise the defense and attack are often disjointed, imo.And yet Dembele was clearly his favourite central midfielder for a time and Eriksen regularly drops into central midfield for us despite what the formations state...
Dembele, has always been a workhorse, he just happens to be skilful and lets not forget he took a long time to be the dembele we know.And yet Dembele was clearly his favourite central midfielder for a time and Eriksen regularly drops into central midfield for us despite what the formations state...
completely lazy and incorrect take. Look at Poch's favorite for that position - Dembele....practically a ballet dancer in that role.Poch likes Workhorses over Skill for his CM positions
Simple as that
completely lazy and incorrect take. Look at Poch's favorite for that position - Dembele....practically a ballet dancer in that role.
While i really want Josh to make it here I think there is a combo of bad luck (his injuries tend to come at terrible times for him) and perhaps that x factor that the smaller Winks has. Not so sure about my own second point but the last several seasons have been hoping for Josh to have one game where he just grabs it by the scruff of the neck and makes the coaching team take notice of him.
Not accurate, In 1 season at Fulham, he made the 2nd most tackles in the league, his other season at Fulham, 69 midfielders (including van der Vaart who made 60 tackles, though played 400 more mins) made more tackles (most tackles Lucas with 172, Dembele made 41).Dembele, has always been a workhorse, he just happens to be skilful and lets not forget he took a long time to be the dembele we know.
At Fulham he was the player that was leading the league in tackles made
Winks has a got a good workrate and is a strong CM for his size.Not accurate, In 1 season at Fulham, he made the 2nd most tackles in the league, his other season at Fulham, 69 midfielders (including van der Vaart who made 60 tackles, though played 400 more mins) made more tackles (most tackles Lucas with 172, Dembele made 41).
Winks isn't known for high numbers in tackling, yet appears to be one of Poch's favorite midfielders.
Winks whilst smaller, is a more physically strong playercompletely lazy and incorrect take. Look at Poch's favorite for that position - Dembele....practically a ballet dancer in that role.
While i really want Josh to make it here I think there is a combo of bad luck (his injuries tend to come at terrible times for him) and perhaps that x factor that the smaller Winks has. Not so sure about my own second point but the last several seasons have been hoping for Josh to have one game where he just grabs it by the scruff of the neck and makes the coaching team take notice of him.
mate - I want him to do well. I want him to do well here and he may well do. BUT it is infuriating to hear the criticism of Poch et al for him being where he is from a squad point of view. Poch has shown massive trust in Winks and seems to be doing so with Skipp.....also believe he would have given Amos lots of mins this season but for his injury.I read that The Players' Tribune article by Lingard the other day and it definitely gave me more hope for Edwards and Onomah.
For me, Josh looks like he's still trying to work out how best to use his body in the men's game.
He's got all the ingredients to make it but has gone from a Rolls Royce at youth level to a guy who looks a little surprised by the physicality. Could even be that he's grown and can't quite find the sweet spot of speed, size and strength yet.
I'd be stunned if he completely disappears off the radar.
So does/is Modric, but I wouldn't describe him as a workhorse, just as I wouldn't Winks.Winks has a got a good workrate and is a strong CM for his size.