Trix
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Walker is not the best RB in the league. You only have to take a look at blue moon to see he has made numerous blunders himself this season. City fans want him upgraded themselves.
Player Watch: Kieran Trippier
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SEANSPURS1975
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He was the best right back in the league when he left. Both his replacements Trippier and Aurier are useless. I’d have Walker back tomorrow??
Stamford
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They are fine as back ups, which is what they previously were
Everlasting Seconds
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It was definitely his fault, because he decided on an active ball intervention and messed it up. Other players might not have reached standards of excellence, but that's not necessarily the same as being at fault. Alderweireld for instance had enough space and overview to know that he should have jetted towards the goal in anticipation of the worst. However, is it his job to assume that a fellow senior player is about to mess up? Maybe it is. But Trippier, once kicking the ball, should have done better, and it all rests on him.
Paolo10
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There should be three possible calls from Lloris in this situation IMO, "KEEPER'S" (I'm coming to get it), "AWAY" (KT to get rid) or something demanding the ball (E.g. "FEET")...all should be at a high level of decibels and be clear.
Tripps was about the only player aside from Toby who actually would clear the ball last night, he could have easily dealt with that situation and tbh the only reason I believe he wouldn't is if he got some kind of call from Hugo.
There's blame on both players, but the keeper should be the one taking control. If he called to leave it, it was a bad call and an unnecessary 50/50 with 3 players potentially coming together.
Again, lots of vitriol about it when we were already beaten, a bit like when he missed a penalty.
Even with the OG, he was far from the worst player on the pitch.
Tripps was about the only player aside from Toby who actually would clear the ball last night, he could have easily dealt with that situation and tbh the only reason I believe he wouldn't is if he got some kind of call from Hugo.
There's blame on both players, but the keeper should be the one taking control. If he called to leave it, it was a bad call and an unnecessary 50/50 with 3 players potentially coming together.
Again, lots of vitriol about it when we were already beaten, a bit like when he missed a penalty.
Even with the OG, he was far from the worst player on the pitch.
Everlasting Seconds
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This sums up most of the squad for me. We have have a few starts, then we many players who are really, really decent as rotation alternatives, but a large chunk of them are in fact first choice.
Japhet
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For once I agree with you about Trippier. Lloris should be yelling instructions at him because he's the one who can see the whole picture. Trippier should never have played the ball between the sticks though and obviously played the pass without looking. Deja Vue.
EastLondonYid
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Dumb and dumber was a great movie...
rossdapep
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We were playing poorly and we were struggling to create but it ruled out any chance we had and whose to say we wouldn't have thrown the kitchen sink at them in the final moments. We've been in that situation before where it looked like one of those days only for us to keep going and get a goal. That mistake completely ruled that out, similar to Aurier's against Burnley.
The truth is this team makes too many defensive mistakes to win something, we lack cool heads in certain situations. Trippier is one of those who lacks that cool head. Once again, what's the point in having a good game if you are going to contribute to the winning goal for the opposition time and time again, that's like saying I keep getting a 89% score in the test when the pass rate is 90%, you're still not getting accepted because you've not been good enough overall. If you were a coach you'd try to improve that weakness through coaching, once you have explored every avenue and it is still a problem you replace that weakness.
I don't dislike Trippier as a person, although I obviously don't know him, but as a fan I can blatantly see that he isn't fulfilling the role to maximum effect (defending and attacking well in equal measure) and it's hurting us. The examples go way way back, last season Sane had him on toast when we lost 4-1 and there's countless other games in which he's been targeted. It's madness to keep sticking with one of your weak points and whilst others do deserve digging out for performances their rope is considerably longer as they have shown their worth time and time again. Trippier's rope is frayed and at snapping point as far as I'm concerned.
pablo73
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I disagree. In the system we play the fullbacks need to be energetic and quick, whether they are first choice or not. Also, Poch tends to rotate his fullbacks so the back ups are going to play almost as often as the first choice FB's anyway.
How many howlers are we going to allow him until they arent howlers but are actually his norm? 80? He has made complete fuck ups in every game this season. Most of which lead to goals or good chances. This is now his norm. Last night was classic Trippier. A different one than in games past but still a Kieran Tripper calamitous fuck up
dtxspurs
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City fans are fucking spoiled brats, could care less about their opinions of upgrades. They are the definition of just wanting shiny new toys.
Paolo10
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https://www.football.london/tottenham-hotspur-fc/players/rio-ferdinand-reveals-who-fault-15898728
"As a defender, in the defender’s union, I blame the goalkeeper," he said on BT Sport. "Edwin Van Der Sar got an earful.
"Olivier Giroud got a great assist. Here you can see he looks Trippier, his head goes down, and he doesn’t look again.
"He sees the goalkeeper on his line, head to the left head to the right, goalkeeper is on his line, keep the distance between where you are so there’s no problem. And then you can clear the ball.
"The moment Lloris comes off his line, where there is no pressure on Trippier at all, you confuse the whole situation and then you get an own goal.
"Communication on both goals is missing.
"Lloris can see everything there, scream at your defender and take over the situation and you don’t have mistakes like that."
"Olivier Giroud got a great assist. Here you can see he looks Trippier, his head goes down, and he doesn’t look again.
"He sees the goalkeeper on his line, head to the left head to the right, goalkeeper is on his line, keep the distance between where you are so there’s no problem. And then you can clear the ball.
"The moment Lloris comes off his line, where there is no pressure on Trippier at all, you confuse the whole situation and then you get an own goal.
"Communication on both goals is missing.
"Lloris can see everything there, scream at your defender and take over the situation and you don’t have mistakes like that."
wrd
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So he admits he's in the defenders union and then says "scream at your defender" which LLoris did do, he tried to take over the situation, Trippier also can be seen asking Lloris to come. Even if none of that were true, it doesn't excuse not looking up and passing it back. Even if LLoris comes out with no calls from either, if Trippier gets his head up then he can pass to LLoris and then it's hugos problem to clear an awkward ball.
In the battle between Tripps and Hugo of being the dumbest last night, its a close run thing, but Tripps comes out the winner I'm afraid. I don't hate him, I don't want to crucify him and I don't think our other options are much better, but you cannot defend Trippiers form this season. He is one of our senior Pro's and he has been shocking, he has made countless mistakes that have led to goals or chances in high profile matches. God knows what is wrong with him, but lets at least admit he has been poor, bordering on useless this season and either needs to radically improve or be upgraded, RB is a glaring weakness in our squad, so much so that other teams target it, so lets not at least kid ourselves its an issue.
Paolo10
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The ball wasn't coming into the box the way it was bouncing, Willian was right there, Lloris had no business flying out there. If the ball's in our third, he should be close to his line.
It's Hugo's fault tbh, he didn't have a good game...you'd think no-one had ever seen Hugo mess it up coming out of his box before, which is arguably the most common mistake in his career.
Still, continue persecuting the metaphorical witch that some of you have clearly hunted.
It's Hugo's fault tbh, he didn't have a good game...you'd think no-one had ever seen Hugo mess it up coming out of his box before, which is arguably the most common mistake in his career.
Still, continue persecuting the metaphorical witch that some of you have clearly hunted.
wrd
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Fair play to you, I thought you just strongly wanted to defend a player but clearly you're just enjoying some top class trolling, I'm genuinely impressed.
Hakkz
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They have probably seen more of Walker this season than you have tbf.
