Lilbaz
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The thing that did me was after the game he was asked if he will leave if we win. He said maybe if we lose too.
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The thing that did me was after the game he was asked if he will leave if we win. He said maybe if we lose too.
Lilbaz
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I like levy. But i think he is concentrating on getting the debt for the stadium down rather than investing in players.
Hope poch changes his mind.
scat1620
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SpartanSpur
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Could be right, as you've said no one knows.
Personally I think we front-loaded the stadium austerity years and this summer is where we make the step up. I do think closing the stadium project ended up taking over last year and it almost cost us on the pitch. I think Levy was keen to rectify in Jan and Poch made a stand.
I imagine the only focus on the stadium front right now is to maximise revenue streams from it, naming rights being the key one. I don't think we are in a rush to clear that debt, Levy said 'payback is long-term' in his interviews ahead of the stadium opener..
eViL
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Must have been too dark in Sissoko's pocket to sign the deal..
HobbitSpur
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There is so much talk floating around at the moment from the fans and this forum to what is being deduced from Poch's quotes surrounding rebuilding the squad.
The talk is about spending the money to bring in the players we require.
Bit IIRC last season we were in the market but a big stumbling block was clearing out some of the players we already have on our books, and this was proving difficult.
Now I am the last person who should tell Levy how to run the club but surely some lessons should be learnt from last season.
I feel that knowing Levy he was holding out for perceived values on these players and no club was willing to match these valuations.
Another season has passed, contracts have shortened in length so the value of these players has obviously declined.
We are nowhere further forward and out asset value has declined.
Surely we should just get rid of the players for whatever we can. Take a hit if need be. The long term effect will only be positive, freeing up space and allowing the purchase of whoever's Poch needs.
That or stick to our guns and have these assets devalue again over the next 12 months, and fall far below what they were worth 12 months ago.
The talk is about spending the money to bring in the players we require.
Bit IIRC last season we were in the market but a big stumbling block was clearing out some of the players we already have on our books, and this was proving difficult.
Now I am the last person who should tell Levy how to run the club but surely some lessons should be learnt from last season.
I feel that knowing Levy he was holding out for perceived values on these players and no club was willing to match these valuations.
Another season has passed, contracts have shortened in length so the value of these players has obviously declined.
We are nowhere further forward and out asset value has declined.
Surely we should just get rid of the players for whatever we can. Take a hit if need be. The long term effect will only be positive, freeing up space and allowing the purchase of whoever's Poch needs.
That or stick to our guns and have these assets devalue again over the next 12 months, and fall far below what they were worth 12 months ago.
HobbitSpur
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I throw that straight back to you.
I did think that this was a forum for discussion and debating one's thoughts/ideas.
My mistake.
Armstrong_11
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Think lets review this after our season ends. 
Krule
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Timed to perfection too as you quite rightly say...banned during the whole of the transfer window. I detest this man and everything he stands for in the game.
Singaspur
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How much has the new stadium changed things? Yes, repaying the cost of the stadium is long-term but if the debt is say 600M and is going to be repaid over 20 years that is 30M pa plus interest, say 40M. I don't know of course, maybe Levy is looking at 10 years or 30. But assuming my plucked out of my rear figures are correct (and hugely simplifying), the question then would be how much net additional revenue do we expect to get from the new stadium - match day income, NFL, other events, naming rights etc.. (completely ignoring the rest of the development)? If it's 60M, then we have increased net revenue by 20M pa.
My hypotheticals/guesses could be way off. But that's roughly how i think Levy is looking at it for the purposes of his next 5 or 10 year plan. And he's conservative, he's not going to assume that we get to the CL final every year. Leaving aside cash flow (which i think is manageable using debt if needs be), wages, transfer fees, agent fees are all cost, which is then budgeted to be paid over the life of the player contract.
I personally think we will see some 'player spending' increases in the coming years. Just maybe not as much as we all hope for. The bottom line remains that Levy and Poch will talk about the next 5 year plan this summer. Poch wants a plan that sees us realistically able to sustainably compete for titles and CLs over that kind of period, not as a one-off and not necessarily next year.
My hypotheticals/guesses could be way off. But that's roughly how i think Levy is looking at it for the purposes of his next 5 or 10 year plan. And he's conservative, he's not going to assume that we get to the CL final every year. Leaving aside cash flow (which i think is manageable using debt if needs be), wages, transfer fees, agent fees are all cost, which is then budgeted to be paid over the life of the player contract.
I personally think we will see some 'player spending' increases in the coming years. Just maybe not as much as we all hope for. The bottom line remains that Levy and Poch will talk about the next 5 year plan this summer. Poch wants a plan that sees us realistically able to sustainably compete for titles and CLs over that kind of period, not as a one-off and not necessarily next year.
Krule
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Exactly....I'd rather see the club spend £40m on a player originally valued at £25m - £30m if it's somebody Poch really wants and thinks will slot into the side seamlessly.
guiltyparty
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Sissoko says hello
LDNYid
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Have we any evidence Sissoko was a Poch choice? I only ask this as, at the time, it felt very much like a last minute, panic buy, and not a planned target; I also think the way that he was initially used, compared to his role now, seems to suggest this also.
TottenhamMattSpur
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The only way players are coming is if player are going. We know this. It's not even about the net spend anymore, it's about the 25 man squad.
If you want new faces we need to get rid of some.
My hitlist would include:
Lamela
Dier
Wanyama
Davies
Vorm
Potential windfall if Eriksen and Tobes go.
7 spaces. A decent amount of cash. Add in CL money, new Stadium money, Wembley increased income we didnt spend money and we should have a spend up for sure.
BUT Levy might have to cut losses on some players if we want that squad space.
If you want new faces we need to get rid of some.
My hitlist would include:
Lamela
Dier
Wanyama
Davies
Vorm
Potential windfall if Eriksen and Tobes go.
7 spaces. A decent amount of cash. Add in CL money, new Stadium money, Wembley increased income we didnt spend money and we should have a spend up for sure.
BUT Levy might have to cut losses on some players if we want that squad space.
CoopsieDeadpool
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cider spurs
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You can forget Poch leaving Spurs for Real Madrid this summer.
You seen the cost of flights to Madrid.
You seen the cost of flights to Madrid.
hellava_tough
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Incidentally, how much do you guys think is enough for 'Levy to back Poch' in the transfer market?
There are many calls for Levy to make funds available, but how much are we talking here?
Your standard 'good' player, or very promising youngster goes for around £50m these days.
Very good, established PL players in their prime go around for £60m to £80m.
Superstars are £80m+(the sky's the limit tbh).
If we're looking to bring in 4 'good' players, that may well be £200m.
I'm not saying this won't happen; my valuations are approximates and we have to consider player sales as well.
Just genuinely interested in what you guys think the transfer budget will be and whether that will be enough in the modern football world.
There are many calls for Levy to make funds available, but how much are we talking here?
Your standard 'good' player, or very promising youngster goes for around £50m these days.
Very good, established PL players in their prime go around for £60m to £80m.
Superstars are £80m+(the sky's the limit tbh).
If we're looking to bring in 4 'good' players, that may well be £200m.
I'm not saying this won't happen; my valuations are approximates and we have to consider player sales as well.
Just genuinely interested in what you guys think the transfer budget will be and whether that will be enough in the modern football world.
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