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Tanganga was a joke today
He didnt play well but both cb's are young and need patience.
Tanganga was a joke today
Context-wise that’s a very good Wolves team with (all?) of their regulars available?
We’re missing our two best players and even before that have massive holes in squad that are not Jose’s fault.
So yeah maybe point fingers the chairman a little as he has overseen this squad for last few seasons (and a little annoyance at Poch for his involvement in leaving us in a shit state) but Jose needs a summer before we can start slating him.
Tanganga also has been doing well so he made the call to drop Toby who has been shaky, so he’s trying to find solutions and at least seems aware of where we are lacking rather than stubbornly ignoring them.
I really like the lad but at best he's a mid-table midfielder for me, no different to Mason, Livermore, Carroll, Bentaleb etc. We think they're better than they are because we love an academy player and he loves the club. Good squad option but cannot be starting at a club that wants to push on and win things.Today was one of those games that showed how limited Winks is as a player. I like him a lot as a Spurs lad, but give him time on the ball in the final third and he shits himself.
Lucas was also a colossal waste of space. All the strength of a ruptured perineum.
I think that had more to do with 18 months of no transfers, no money to give players the contracts they needed, etc. There is no miracle fix to our position. But we've tried to buy one rather than trust the guy who'd already achieved so much with us. And unsurprisingly it isn't working.He also didnt want to be here in the end and this is why we got beat 7 - 2 at home and a lot of other shite results.
Better to watch and gauge on your own. Listening to commentary is a biased perspective opinionated by whoever love/hate us/Mourinho.Listened to the match on the wireless and, imo, it sounds like this one is on Jose.
The commentators even mentioned once or twice how hard it was to work out what formation we were playing and for the most part it sounded like players individually trying hard but nothing coming together as a team. If either is the case then the other is likely.
Was bringing Parrot on for the last couple of minutes Jose being "you wanted him, fine, here he is" like a stroppy kid, or was he trying to leave it late enough that he could run out and not take any blame for the bad result?
Confused and frustrated by that result.
But we was shit with the old manager last year so nothing much has changed
That's your opinion - mine is that Poch finally got caught out with his system & he didn't have a credible system as an alternative. Poch left the team in tatters from a fitness point of view, however, Levy compounded those problems by a significant lack of investment & if anything that was what finally pushed us over the edge. Poch could have rebuilt for sure, but he never learned his lesson of being able to produce a viable plan b - when he tried, he failed. What's is known as a one-trick pony in my books.We were in a tough circumstance. Hadn't had money to invest with the stadium circumstances, needed a refresh, things had certainly dropped off. But Poch was the man who took us from very similar circumstances to where we were. I strongly believe that he'd have got us back to that, not this season, but we'd have got there and gone even further. When you look at the job Jose did at United, I just can't see how he makes any sense.
Defensive organisation and coaching is literally meant to be his talent. That's meant to be the basis of what he does. It's not how I'd want us to focus and play anyway, but you can't base your whole resume on it and then turn in shite like that.I have no great desire to defend Mourinho but he can’t be blamed for most of that. Our defenders and keeper were horrific.
Players let him and themselves down.
It wasn't over a year. But you know what, if Jose doesn't win an away game the rest of this season but beats his German opposition in the R16 by four goals, knocks out the favourites and takes us to the UCL final again, I'll take that. The squad needed a refresh. But it sucks so much that when we finally had some kind of money in the summer to invest, Poch only got literally a couple of months to work with it after years of not just dragging some players who weren't the most talented into the Top 4 but getting them playing brilliantly too. He deserved a hell of a lot more time. Given the months Mourinho's had I don't think we'd be doing as badly as we are right now - a mess, toothless, low-energy, passionless.
That's your opinion - mine is that Poch finally got caught out with his system & he didn't have a credible system as an alternative. Poch left the team in tatters from a fitness point of view, however, Levy compounded those problems by a significant lack of investment & if anything that was what finally pushed us over the edge. Poch could have rebuilt for sure, but he never learned his lesson of being able to produce a viable plan b - when he tried, he failed. What's is known as a one-trick pony in my books.
How many of the players today were even in the CL final team?
Winks & Alli
And Dier and Lucas came on.
The rest either weren't here or didn't play. This has nothing to do with the CL final. We lost cos we gave away goals.
Lets see........We arent even missing that many players.
Young he may be, and 0atience we must have, but He cost us the game today.He didnt play well but both cb's are young and need patience.