Should Levy go for his part in the Super League... with a heavy heart I say yes.
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I agree to an extent, but the next time there is a fan forum and he attends, there is no way in he will be able to say "we are doing things the right way". Yes I know the appointment of another ENIC man doesn't really change this, but they would be fresh lies from a fresh face that people could somehow convince themselves the guy was honest. Again, I know why we done we it, I appreciate Levy for all he has done, but his persona is blown.
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If things got that dire then ENIC would have to cut their losses so that would only be good news for potential investors.
Despite my misgivings about Levy and Enics incompetence/self interests or greed....I've voted no. If it went ahead and we weren't in it and had the chance we'd all be slating him for turning it down.
He acted in the clubs interest....okay the cynical view would be in Enics interest . But I think with that level of income that Esl offered the playing personal would have improved.
He acted in the clubs interest....okay the cynical view would be in Enics interest . But I think with that level of income that Esl offered the playing personal would have improved.
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I would like a clearer understanding of his involvement in the project, how much we drove it etc first - but on balance I this probably should be the point at which the succession planning begins.
The stadium is finished, the club is worth a fortune, the team is no longer shit (well...) - you have to wonder what else he can do with us, especially given how much this latest episode will have damaged his reputation with the fans.
I don’t think he should stand down with immediate effect, but I wouldn’t be surprised or sad to see him announce his intention to stand down within the next 12 months.
The stadium is finished, the club is worth a fortune, the team is no longer shit (well...) - you have to wonder what else he can do with us, especially given how much this latest episode will have damaged his reputation with the fans.
I don’t think he should stand down with immediate effect, but I wouldn’t be surprised or sad to see him announce his intention to stand down within the next 12 months.
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Of course he shouldn't go.
While he's made mistakes during his tenure, he's also done a lot of good for this club and by being involved in this, he was just trying to not get left behind.
I don't blame him at all, nor do I see this whole thing as an attack on football. It's just what's always happened, the rich are trying to protect and grow their assets.
If it had gone ahead, we'd probably be crying over the fact that we weren't included.
While he's made mistakes during his tenure, he's also done a lot of good for this club and by being involved in this, he was just trying to not get left behind.
I don't blame him at all, nor do I see this whole thing as an attack on football. It's just what's always happened, the rich are trying to protect and grow their assets.
If it had gone ahead, we'd probably be crying over the fact that we weren't included.
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Back to being nearly men again
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We'd probably end up with Ed Woodward
A buy out is the only option. Owners willing to spend on the playing squad....never wanted it that way...but learned if you can't beat them...then join them.
Exactly, imagine what would have happened if this had gone ahead & we hadn't been involved.
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Maybe some good can come out of this if this is the catalyst for enic and levy to go.
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Nah he shouldn't go. I think a suitable punishment would be if he stepped back from football matters and just concentrated on the business. Give a transfer kitty to the manager to spend on who they want (with a dof and decent scouting teams help).
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Still nearly men
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But, I thought that was what this week has all been about for us?
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At the time this was announced I personably felt it was never gonna happen, how any of the clubs thought this would just play out is beyond me. Levy is obsessed by the American franchise model which is so far detached from football its unreal, if this plan had of happened the next route would be clubs relocating globally.
Off the Field I still think Levy is one of the better chairman but hand on my heart I care more about on field success which has been sadly lacking.
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I think everyone deserves their day in court, so to speak.
He does need to be held to account and responsible for the decisions made.
He should also have a chance to explain his decision making process, and that of the rest of the board.
Right now, we only have snippets of information, but not the whole story. Which is why I reserve judgment.
Superficially, with City and Chelsea and more allegedly pulling out, it shows that this 'product' was not well thought through. They should be a united front, on the matter of being in or out. Because on the surface, it now looks like a slap dash money grab that was hastily thrown together, without enough research, alignment, accountability, principles, a governing model or a plan for how it would impact everyone else.
If a VP of large company signed on to something akin to this, with all of the aforementioned holes and unknowns, and without a full reading of how it would impact customers, partners and employees... they would be sacked. If... it backfired and they were left with egg on their face. But if successful over the long term, they get promoted for being a visionary.
Progress requires risk. Failing. Falling forward. And learning. But, the risks you take and the resulting failures should derive from a well thought through plan, that accounts for stumbling, falling... because eventually, if that vision is anchored in common sense and smarts, it will work out. Also, if the vision goes through a risk assessment and it raises 'fourth rail issues, you don't follow.through.
But this... it may be a vision. But a blinkered one, that was not thought through and clearly ignored any risk assessment, which would have been littered with burning red flags.
He does need to be held to account and responsible for the decisions made.
He should also have a chance to explain his decision making process, and that of the rest of the board.
Right now, we only have snippets of information, but not the whole story. Which is why I reserve judgment.
Superficially, with City and Chelsea and more allegedly pulling out, it shows that this 'product' was not well thought through. They should be a united front, on the matter of being in or out. Because on the surface, it now looks like a slap dash money grab that was hastily thrown together, without enough research, alignment, accountability, principles, a governing model or a plan for how it would impact everyone else.
If a VP of large company signed on to something akin to this, with all of the aforementioned holes and unknowns, and without a full reading of how it would impact customers, partners and employees... they would be sacked. If... it backfired and they were left with egg on their face. But if successful over the long term, they get promoted for being a visionary.
Progress requires risk. Failing. Falling forward. And learning. But, the risks you take and the resulting failures should derive from a well thought through plan, that accounts for stumbling, falling... because eventually, if that vision is anchored in common sense and smarts, it will work out. Also, if the vision goes through a risk assessment and it raises 'fourth rail issues, you don't follow.through.
But this... it may be a vision. But a blinkered one, that was not thought through and clearly ignored any risk assessment, which would have been littered with burning red flags.
