Match Threads Man City vs Spurs - Match thread - Carabao Cup Final 2021 - KO 4:30pm

freeeki · Apr 25, 2021

cozzo said:
I have to lay this defeat at Mason’s feet. I can’t even blame the players. He chose them. He had the opportunity to play an attacking team and fight fire with fire. There has to be politics at play for him to drop NDombele.

These players showed a lack of heart, desire, effort and footballing intelligence under Pochettino.

These players showed a lack of heart, desire, effort and footballing intelligence under Mourinho.

These players are showing a lack of heart, desire, effort and footballing intelligence under Mason.

You might not be able to blame the players, but many of us can. With the exception of Kane, I’m past caring which of the fuckers leave this summer. I just hope the answer is “a lot”.

THFC_SWE · Apr 25, 2021

Look, Mason is not the solution. But don't you remember our results vs top clubs under Mou? It was horrible. Add the performance against Dinamo Zagreb. We were just lucky to get to the finals in the first place. Walk over vs Leyton Orient, penalty win vs Chelsea under Lampard and two wins against Championship clubs. We had nothing to do in a final vs a team like Man City. Mason or Mourinho, it doesn't matter.

Phil-spur99 · Apr 25, 2021

jbstarr14 said:
Prepared to get pelters for this, but if Kane is so fucking desperate for trophies, maybe he could put in a shift when he has the chance to win one? Maybe lead by example?

Sick of this ‘Kane deserves to win stuff’ narrative. You had to earn medals back in my day.

Yes but he can’t always do it on his own against a team like City when he is isolated from any support chasing aimless punts up the pitch from Toby and Dier because there is no midfield to play though and on the few occasions we do get forward we make poor decisions (PEH).

ackie · Apr 25, 2021

I'm not referring to Jose though...but the players mentioned

DenverSpur · Apr 25, 2021

wayneg said:
Kane had absolutely no service today. How anyone can say he was terrible is beyond me. Any striker in world football would have looked terrible for us today.

Stop making excuses for him. He was as poor as everyone else. People keep telling me what a great world class player he is( and he is a great goal scorer) but tell me one big game where he has risen to the occasion and put in an inspirational performance like for example Gerrard did in the FACup Final against WHU( and to a slightly lesser extent the Champions League Final against AC Milan) and Keane for ManU against Juventus in Champions League. He is as guilty as everyone else for our overall performances but especially in the really big games.

Metalhead · Apr 25, 2021

C0YS said:
It depends, promoting from the inside is also valid and works a lot of time. Lets see what happens till the rest of the season, it's completely unfair to judge someone who's been here less than a week.

That's exactly the point that I was making to @Dr Know albeit I misunderstood his point a bit. Mason is in a position where he is just steadying the ship for the remainder of the season. He has no experience to speak of and I'm as certain as I can be that he won't get the job permanently. No way should anyone criticise the guy.

Trix · Apr 25, 2021

RickyVilla said:
Same shit, different day.

This it for me. 3rd manager in 2 years who has failed to get any desire out of them in a big game. Not that it should even be down to the manager.

richard_gleeson · Apr 25, 2021

jbstarr14 said:
Prepared to get pelters for this, but if Kane is so fucking desperate for trophies, maybe he could put in a shift when he has the chance to win one? Maybe lead by example?

Sick of this ‘Kane deserves to win stuff’ narrative. You had to earn medals back in my day.

Kane had no service, was 80% fit and did put effort in today.

Lord Commander · Apr 25, 2021

The biggest reason for the loss is not a lack of effort or desire. It`s due to the simple fact that the City players are
much, much better.

Did the questionable lineup help? No. Was the midfield much weaker without Ndombele? Yes.
Should Bale have started? Yes.

But even with Ndombele and Bale on the pitch, City would have dominated the game and created more chances.
The simple fact is that most (but not all) cup finals are won by the team with the better players.

Mattspurs1982 · Apr 25, 2021

It’s just typical, in a big game, the favourites should have had a player sent off but the refs bottle it - and said player goes in to score the winner. Happens all the time over many years with big teams and officials. Sigh.

jimmy-jojo · Apr 25, 2021

spursfan77 said:
I just don’t understand why they have no desire or hunger. Too much money I guess.

Someone tell that to the City players who all earn more than ours. How dare they get paid more than our players AND show more hunger and desire!

Archibald&Crooks · Apr 25, 2021

bozzaSPUR said:
Why is it Levy’s fault? Oh I forgot - same old dross comes out because Levy chooses the players to sign and then tactically when he coaches them he is inept as well. How could anybody forget that about Levy. Oh and another thing - he had built the best stadium and trading favilities in the world because he wants us to fail and become a Championship side. How silly of me to forget that.

This again. Fucking hell.

The whole mentality of this club isn't geared toward winning, it's geared toward 'competing'. That's from the top so it's hardly surprising it filters down. He's happy that we're in with a shout, he's missed more than one opportunity to show he means business and wants to be a winner but no, 'competing' is enough, he's never understood the amount of kudos he'd have gotten if he actually went for it.

"Oh, but he's built a stadium/look where we were when he took over/be careful what you wish for"

The squad has been criminally neglected, we are the only club to ever go two consecutive transfer windows without making a signing. It's resulted in a decline of epic proportions.

"Oh, but he's built a stadium/look where we were when he took over/be careful what you wish for"

He's curls a 12 inch turd out on the chests of the fans and football in general, making us one of the 6 most hated clubs in England while he's at it, nobody wants to deal with him, the EPL are calling for his head, the Supporters are calling for his head and it's blatantly obvious that profit is king with him and ENIC

"Oh, but he's built a stadium/look where we were when he took over/be careful what you wish for"

All of us, pretty much all of us are so down on Spurs at the moment, there's nothing redeeming about us, the hope and joy, the enjoyment of watching us, all of it has been sucked out of us like a brass on crack sucking a pea through a smarties tube, the negativity surrounding us is monumental

"Oh, but he's built a stadium/look where we were when he took over/be careful what you wish for"

God forbid there's complaints because, yep, you guessed it......."Oh, but he's built a stadium/look where we were when he took over/be careful what you wish for"

Every time he gets criticised, one of his disciples crops up with it. Fuck that. Fuck it with a 24 inch dill covered in stinging nettles and ralgex

Phil-spur99 · Apr 25, 2021

freeeki said:
These players showed a lack of heart, desire, effort and footballing intelligence under Pochettino.

These players showed a lack of heart, desire, effort and footballing intelligence under Mourinho.

These players are showing a lack of heart, desire, effort and footballing intelligence under Mason.

You might not be able to blame the players, but many of us can. With the exception of Kane, I’m past caring which of the fuckers leave this summer. I just hope the answer is “a lot”.

But the Board have a lot of faith in this expensive group of overhyped, spineless players....

journeyman · Apr 25, 2021

Let’s keep this in perspective. This afternoon looked like a £500m team against a £150m one, which is roughly what it was.

Likewise, the last 3 finals before this - v Liverpool, Chelsea and Man U - were all against sides which cost vastly more to assemble. We were underdogs in all, as we were in 2008 when we upset the odds.

The lads tried as hard as they could today, but we were simply outclassed. That’s none of the players’ or Ryan Mason’s fault. The Super League was only 1 example of the massive inequality in football today.

dondo · Apr 25, 2021

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Bluto Blutarsky · Apr 25, 2021

chelmyid said:
He was having such a poor game - he should have made way for bale

Understand the sentiment - but really disagree. We were playing to hit them on the counter. Sonny is the best player we have on the counter. You leave him on, no matter how many times he has fluffed his lines, because it only takes once to make amends.

Bale for Lucas was the right call. (And Lucas starting was the right call also - Bale would not have lasted in a game where most of the energy was spent defending).

Wsussexspur · Apr 25, 2021

'Spurs cannot have Mason in charge next season'
FT: Man City 1-0 Tottenham

Chris Sutton
Former Premier League striker on BBC Radio 5 Live
Spurs cannot have Ryan Mason in charge next season. There is talk of Julian Nagelsmann - why on earth would he walk into this mess at Tottenham?
He could get the Bayern Munich job. Spurs are a big club but it looks like there is one hell of a rebuild after the mess that Jose Mourinho has left.
They have all the gear - a brand new stadium - but do they have a team that fits it?

DenverSpur · Apr 25, 2021

JayB said:
It’s one thing to say that you want Bale on the pitch and so you need Sissoko to cover the right back. It’s another entirely to bring Lo Celso off in order to make the change, without also bringing Ndombele on for Winks. As soon as we went to a midfield that was utterly bereft of creativity the game was over. Mason will forever be remembered for the cowardly substitution.

A bit harsh

Phil-spur99 · Apr 25, 2021

Phil-spur99 said:
Yes but he can’t always do it on his own against a team like City when he is isolated from any support chasing aimless punts up the pitch from Toby and Dier because there is no midfield to play though and on the few occasions we do get forward we make poor decisions (PEH).

@DenverSpur so you think he can do it on his own against a team that has just won 30 of the last 33 games. Interesting....

Samcthfc · Apr 25, 2021

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