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Match Threads Man City vs Spurs - Match thread - Carabao Cup Final 2021 - KO 4:30pm

Match Prediction

  • We lift our first Trophy in 13 years

    Votes: 124 38.9%
  • We lose out on another Trophy

    Votes: 170 53.3%
  • Cannot make up my mind

    Votes: 25 7.8%

  • Total voters
    319

Bulletspur

The Reasonable Advocate
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MAN CITY 1-0 SPURS
Laporte

Spurs: Lloris (c), Aurier (Bergwijn), Alderweireld, Dier, Reguilon, Hojbjerg (Dele), Winks, Lo Celso (Sissoko), Lucas (Bale), Son Kane.
Subs: Hart, Sanchez, Tanganga, Ndombele, Lamela.

Man City: Steffen, Walker, Dias, Laporte, Cancelo, Fernandinho (c), Gundogan, De Bruyne, Mahrez, Foden, Sterling.
Subs: Ederson, Ake, Jesus, Aguero, Zinchenko, Rodrigo, Bernardo, Torres, Mendy.

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TEAM FORM: ----------- Man City: - WLWLW --------Spurs - WDLDW -------------
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At the end of a week like no other in football, Man City take us on in the EFL Cup final at Wembley on Sunday. As the dust begins to settle on the remarkably rapid rise and fall of the European Super League, two of us who were complicit clubs, go head to head in a fixture which at one stage seemed threatened by our potential involvement in the short-lived breakaway attempt. As it is, 8,000 fans will grace Wembley for the first major cup final of the 2020-21 English football season, with Man City out to make history and we looking to end a trophy drought which stretches back 13 years.

Usually scheduled for the end of February or early March, this season's EFL Cup final has been pushed back specifically to allow fans back into the stadium and, in a week where the importance and influence of supporters has been underlined more firmly than ever, the return of 8,000 of them to Wembley will be welcomed by everyone in the game. There is still bound to be some residual anger in the air from both sets of fans following the attempted Super League coup d'etat, and Sunday will give them the first chance to voice that during an actual match, but for the managers and players on both sides there is the business of winning a trophy to focus on.

For us, that has been a rarity in recent seasons, and in a tumultuous week for football as a whole, we have typically added even more drama to events by sacking Jose just six days before Sunday's final. Mourinho had become only the third manager to reach the final of this competition with three different clubs when we beat Brentford in the semi-final in January, putting him on course to lift the trophy for a fifth time from just five finals. However, if the past week has shown us anything it is how quickly things can move in football, and the near four-month gap since those semi-finals seems like a lifetime ago now. When we both booked our places in the final we also sat level on points in the Premier League table; now there are 24 points separating us with Man City marching on to a possible treble and we battling to salvage their season.

It is this league form which ultimately convinced Levy to pull the trigger on Monday as Mourinho became the 10th managerial casualty of his 20-year reign. In a week when Levy's position has come under particularly fierce scrutiny, it is worth pointing out that those 20 years have yielded just one trophy - the 2008 League Cup - with us currently on our longest silverware drought since the 1950s.

Twenty-nine-year-old Ryan Mason is the unlikely man drafted in to try to end that drought, and in just his second game at the helm he is looking to succeed where his predecessors Harry Redknapp, Andre Villas-Boas, Tim Sherwood, Poch and Jose all failed in bringing a major trophy back to North London. Mason was in our Spurs midfield when we were beaten by Mourinho's Chelsea in our last domestic cup final in 2015 - one of three major finals we have reached since our 2008 triumph, all of which we have lost without scoring a goal. We have also lost six of our last seven domestic cup matches at Wembley, although it is a stadium which should feel like home to us, having occupied it while our Tottenham Hotspur Stadium was being completed. The early signs have looked good under Mason too, with our former midfielder making a winning start to his reign in midweek as we came from behind to beat Southampton courtesy of a late Son penalty.

Bale who scored our equaliser, appeared to aim a thinly-veiled dig at the departed Mourinho by talking up our attacking intent in that game, with us registering our most touches in an opposition box in a Premier League game this season. Whether Mason is brave enough to attack a team like Man City in the same way is a different story, but we do have the peculiar omen of winning trophies in the opening year of a new decade which the more superstitious members of our squad might take comfort from. Eight of the 16 major trophies we have ever won have come in those such years - including 1951, 1961, 1971, 1981 and 1991 - although that trend has so far deserted us the 21st Century.

Since our last piece of silverware, Man City have been the subject of a transformative takeover, evolved into one of Europe's powerhouses and won 14 trophies, including the Premier League four times and the EFL Cup on five occasions. They have now won the League Cup more often than any other major trophy in their history, and victory on Sunday would equal Liverpool's records for most wins overall (eight) and most consecutive wins (four).

It is a similar story in the dugout now that Mourinho has been denied his latest showdown with his old foe Pep Guardiola. Mason became the Premier League's youngest ever manager - and just the second person to manage a top-flight game while in their 20s since the Second World War - during the victory over Southampton on Wednesday, but in only his second game at the helm finds himself up against the master in a cup final.

Guardiola is bidding for the 30th trophy of his illustrious managerial career and his ninth as Man City boss this weekend, and he looks certain to add to that tally further this season. While a quadruple is now off the cards following their FA Cup semi-final defeat to Chelsea last weekend, it seems like only a matter of time before they wrap up the Premier League crown having returned to winning ways against Aston Villa in midweek. With the first leg of their Champions League semi-final against Paris Saint-Germain looming next week, the prospect of another treble is still on, but they first must complete the job against us on Sunday.

Guardiola's record in this competition is formidable, having lifted the trophy three seasons in a row and lost only two of his 24 League Cup matches overall, one of which was a semi-final second-leg defeat which still saw Man City through to the final last season. However, Guardiola made no secret of the fact that this competition is now at the very bottom of his priority list, coming as it does this season at the same time as the Premier League title run-in and the latter stages of the Champions League.

That is in sharp contrast to us, for whom success in this match could come to define our season should we miss out on a Champions League spot in the Premier League. The prospect of ending that long trophy drought also makes this a much bigger occasion for us than it is for Man City, but whether that is enough for us to overcome the odds facing us remains to be seen. Both of us are appearing in our ninth League Cup final in total - only Liverpool have played in more - but the more recent history in major tournaments could barely be more different between us.

Team News


We both are sweating over the fitness of key players ahead of Sunday's final, with Manchester City hoping for positive news on De Bruyne and us waiting on Kane. De Bruyne limped off in last weekend's FA Cup semi-final defeat to Chelsea but is now back in training, with his twisted ankle proving less serious than first feared. The Belgian should be fit to feature if needed, while Sergio Aguero could also be in contention having returned to training this week too - although the Argentine's injury problems throughout the season mean that he is likely to have to make do with a place on the bench at best.

Guardiola admitted in his pre-match press conference that he will have one eye on "more important" games in the Champions League and Premier League, suggesting that he could make a number of changes for this match. John Stones will definitely miss out through suspension following his red card against Aston Villa last time out, while Zack Steffan will feature in goal instead of Ederson. Raheem Sterling appears to have fallen out of favour in the biggest games, but Guardiola's suggestion that he will prioritise the upcoming Champions League semi-final means that the winger could get a start here. The likes of Cancelo, Laporte, Fernandinho and Mendy will also be pushing for starting roles after missing out in midweek.

We are much more likely to name our strongest possible XI, although whether or not that will include Kane is a situation Mason is tracking "hour by hour". The England skipper is not yet back in training after picking up an ankle injury against Everton, though, and Mason has insisted that he will not risk Kane's fitness for the sake of one game, even if it is a final. Mason opted for Lucas Moura to lead the line in Kane's absence in midweek, and that could again be the choice this weekend, with Son and Bale - the latter of whom has directly contributed to 11 goals in his last 11 starts for us - in support. Mourinho's departure could be welcome news for the likes of Winks and Dele, although their lack of game time this season could prevent them from being thrown straight into the mix from the start on Sunday. Alongside Kane, Doherty is Tottenham's only other injury doubt, while Davies is definitely sidelined.


Head to Head

We have played each other 163 times with our first competitive meeting was on 16th January 1909, 112 years ago. They have won 64 games, we 63 games and we have drawn against each other 36 times.

Man City have only won one of the last four meetings between us, although that did come in the most recent one as Gundogan scored twice in a 3-0 Premier League triumph at the Etihad Stadium in February.

This will be the first meeting between us in a major final since the 1981 FA Cup final, which we eventually won via a replay in a match made famous by Ricky Villa's timelessly stunning solo effort. It will only be the fourth ever meeting in the League Cup, and we boast a 100% record from the previous three, most recently winning
2-0 in the fifth round en route to lifting the trophy in 2007-08.

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DCSPUR64

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Really enjoy your, preview, Bulletspur. If the miracle happens and we lift the trophy (unlikely), I bet José will take the credit
However if that did happen and it is a big if, what a moment it would be for all of us, Chris Powell and what a story it would be for Ryan Mason.
Let’s do it, boys!
 

Hazelton

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I feel like a major downer but I really just hope it isn't embarrassing and we give a good account of ourselves. There is a slight feeling in my stomach that we could do it though, the story would be too good and football has a tendency to write interesting scripts.
 

Gilzeanking

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What Iike about this match is the Hollywood aspect, like a Disney film . The rookie kid takes over a losing, shattered team who's main player is crocked just before a huge final vs the toughest team in the land...He turns to an old player ,past his prime ,shakey from alcohol and leek addiction (c'mon its Hollywood).. and asks him to make one last bid for glory.

No-one gives the rookie kid a chance in a hopeless situation...obvs the match goes against him first half 0-3 ,but THEN.....
 

Yiddo1982

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We really deserve something to celebrate, especially with all the shit we get from rival fans. Hopefully we can pull out a performance and lift the cup. COYS
 

cider spurs

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What Iike about this match is the Hollywood aspect, like a Disney film . The rookie kid takes over a losing, shattered team who's main player is crocked just before a huge final vs the toughest team in the land...He turns to an old player ,past his prime ,shakey from alcohol and leek addiction (c'mon its Hollywood).. and asks him to make one last bid for glory.

No-one gives the rookie kid a chance in a hopeless situation...obvs the match goes against him first half 0-3 ,but THEN.....


No way Davies scores 4. :sneaky:
 

George94

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I genuinely think we’ve had rotten luck the last few finals.

2009, Man United. League Cup Final. We had chances to win that game, it went all the way to penalties, and we decided to take the worst spot kicks ever seen in football.

2015, Chelsea, League Cup Final. Eriksen could have put us in-front, hitting the crossbar from a free-kick when the game is 0-0, but instead, Chelsea get a scrappy goal just before halftime, and then a deflected goal early in the second half.

2019, Liverpool. Champions League Final. We concede a ridiculous penalty 30 seconds into the game that completely strips us of all momentum, spend 80 minutes trying to break Liverpool down with a clearly unfit Harry Kane (lol) for them to score against the run of play and win the damn thing.

Look, maybe I’m just making excuses. Maybe these are the moments that you need to overcome in order to win silverware. I just feel like we’ve had some real ‘Spursy’ shit go against us and it’s about time we had some luck on our side in a final.

COYS!!!!
 

Gassin's finest

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All I ask of us is that we give a great account of ourselves. Playing with positivity, freedom and bravery. No playing within ourselves, no doubt, no negativity, and no bloody handballs in the box in the first bloody minutes.

COYS
 

teok

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It's 6:30, that's my fault

Just a minor request. Can we put kick off times in the thread titles? I think people still get caught out with early kick offs on weekdays mainly in europe. I think it would really help to able to just glance at it. (y)
 

fuzzylogic

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I’m more confident for some reason going in to the game with mason in charge than Jose, at least I hope we go out and give it our all and have a right good go at them! Still not confident we will win but if we have a right crack at them then I can accept that. COYS
 

Spurs 1961

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I always think we can beat City. Much prefer to play them than United or Chelsea who we never seem to beat in big games. But City concede goals so if our star men are on top form who knows what can happen
 

chrissivad

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Just a minor request. Can we put kick off times in the thread titles? I think people still get caught out with early kick offs on weekdays mainly in europe. I think it would really help to able to just glance at it. (y)

I have added it to today, but you will need to ask @Bulletspur
 

yid-down-under

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We beat them earlier in the season with shit football so no reason we can’t beat them with good football
 
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