AtoubaToothpaste
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Traore is and never has been worth paying over the odds for. Someone who can score and/or assist regularly? Sure. Traore? Definitely not.
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Traore is and never has been worth paying over the odds for. Someone who can score and/or assist regularly? Sure. Traore? Definitely not.
shelfstandspur
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Thanks JJ, reading this and your tweets it is good to hear everyone is working well together!
I actually dont disagree with you BUT if Nuno and Paratici are both big fans, you pay up and show the trust.
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But didn’t we strengthen the defense.? As for a striker, Traore isn’t one. Seems to me that Nuno, FP and SH all got sidetracked chasing a headless chicken winger that we did not need and forgot to earmark a striker. That Levy didn’t want to follow them in their wild goose chase Is commendable but he should have told them earlier to give it up and get on the right(striker) track. I think Paratici has done really well but feel he took his eye off the ball at the end wasting time on Traore which would have been better spent securing a striker preferably a RWF who can play up top.
Noticed Everton got Rondon on a free from China. Surely he was worth a punt?
tiger666
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No you don't. You pay up to the amount you feel is acceptable, you don't just payout whatever the cost. £40m or £50m or whatever it was is too much for Adama Traore.
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While true under normal circumstances, surely if there’s anything that would make a club consider selling an important player in January it would be the fact that the player has 18 months remaining on his contract. Assuming Traore doesn’t sign a new deal, January will be Wolves’ last chance to get full price for him.
If they’ve established themselves well clear of the relegation zone and have Neto back (or nearly back), it wouldn’t be unthinkable that they might be willing to take their last opportunity to cash in before his value is slashed.
Whether Levy would be willing to pay up rather than take a gamble and wait to see whether he can get Nuno’s target for a snip six months later is the bigger question IMO.
Definite gamble for a player such as Adama. He’s not of the 50m player quality(but that is what the pl-pl transfer market seems to do). That PL tax we would have been paying isnt worth it in this climate. But I am confident Levy would have given his signature on that Lautaro move if it came down to it while also keeping Kane. But that is because he would fall under that special criteria we seem to lay aside funds for.
I have no problems with this window other than not getting another wide forward/striker. It was decent enough for all its challenges & the late start we handed ourselves with the manager debacle. If we need immediate reinforcements in the XI come January, I am sure the club will look at it. Otherwise, if 100% capacity & event schedule resumes as is at the stadium, I think we could make bigger splashes next summer.
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So Paratici was happy to pay 50m euros for Traore at Juve but you've decided what his value is....
Im not here a massive traore fan btw but I'd like Levy to show some faith in his DoF and Manager and get in the players they want. If they have to pay an extra £10m, then it has to be done. Whether Traore is right for us or not
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That really surprises me when you hear JM talk about Dias now. Also, he is a typical JM style defender. I think I even read somewhere that JM wanted him but the club bailed at the fee. But I guess that could have been put out by JMs people to deflect.
Thanks for sharing
robertgoulet
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If JJ says they’re all happy I’m inclined to believe him and move on.
tiger666
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What Paratici was happy for at Juve is irrelevant. The DoF and Manager have got in five players they wanted, that's more than most get in one window. It's a great start and there's more windows to come.
I will come back to you on this one if Kane or Son get injured....
tiger666
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Yeah triffic.
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I get that spending £50m on Adama is a risk - tbh that is totally fair enough.
My issue is not having a single back-up...We were told all window that Paratici was the master at lining up lots of deals at the same time yet we only thought it was worth trying for one forward?
Surely there was a decent striker or winger out there in this "buyers market", especially if we did indeed have £30m to play with (the reported bid for Adama)?
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My issue is not having a single back-up...We were told all window that Paratici was the master at lining up lots of deals at the same time yet we only thought it was worth trying for one forward?
Surely there was a decent striker or winger out there in this "buyers market", especially if we did indeed have £30m to play with (the reported bid for Adama)?
(not directed at JJ )
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If Neto comes back as good as before, then sod off any ideas of Traore and sign Pedro Neto himself. He creates more than Traore anyway and is younger. Would have been a better target all along imo if not injured, as he can actually play football better.
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Out of interest if that happens and Scarlett scores more than Vinicius did will you do the same ?
This isn’t just aimed at you but there is so much of this on here from the same people who moan that we let cirkin go as he wouldn’t sign as Reggie came in for example
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Yup, if Neto gets fit again and shows the same form pre-injury then he should be our number 1 target next summer.
He is going to go right to the very top.
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if at the start of the window you had been told we’d be rid of lots of unwanted / over the hill players and upgraded RB/CB, AM (Gil) and brought in a top prospect (Sarr), I think most would be happy
overall a decent window with a clear approach (shift unwanted players even if it means a slight hit), buy top young talent and bolster weak areas (even if we couldn’t get all our targets)
The bigger concern is the continued sense of levy’s meddling based on ITK - as long as he continues to stick his ore in, we will not have success or get the players we need to be successful
Too many DoFs have been burnt - there’s a pattern over time with Levy, and I fear Paratici won’t hang about if it’s really the case. But that’s for a different day, and it sounds like it's not as bad as first appears given JJ's insight.
At least the rebuild feels like it’s genuinely started, and that there’s now a discernible transfer strategy for the first time in a long time
I just hope Paratici and Hichen get a chance to finish the job…
overall a decent window with a clear approach (shift unwanted players even if it means a slight hit), buy top young talent and bolster weak areas (even if we couldn’t get all our targets)
The bigger concern is the continued sense of levy’s meddling based on ITK - as long as he continues to stick his ore in, we will not have success or get the players we need to be successful
Too many DoFs have been burnt - there’s a pattern over time with Levy, and I fear Paratici won’t hang about if it’s really the case. But that’s for a different day, and it sounds like it's not as bad as first appears given JJ's insight.
At least the rebuild feels like it’s genuinely started, and that there’s now a discernible transfer strategy for the first time in a long time
I just hope Paratici and Hichen get a chance to finish the job…
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jpascavitz
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I'm a lot happier even reading the departures of Aurier and CCV. In particular, Aurier was half way out the door already and I only want committed players to be a part of the squad. We did really well in the current market in order to move on these players.
I do actually think we have a creative mid in the making with Gil. We spent over 20m on Bergwijn and almost 30m on Lucas... it's time for them to get a run of matches each and earn their spots with goal contributions.
I do actually think we have a creative mid in the making with Gil. We spent over 20m on Bergwijn and almost 30m on Lucas... it's time for them to get a run of matches each and earn their spots with goal contributions.
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