Timberwolf
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You scout the scout. Duh.
The ITK Discussion Thread - 15th January 2022
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Clark28
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Scout-ception
neogenisis
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Sounds like a new episode of Duggee, Duggee has his Scouting baaaadge.
....in Jan or in the summer?!?
mil1lion
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Ask SpursKing for an analysis on his targets
Trix
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If you want to know why I've posted nothing over the last week or so it's because nothing has changed since my previous posts. Except some fans patience and expectations of course.
Ok so I've been holding back a little bit because of reactions to ITK posts over the last few windows. Prior to that I've always been fairly to the point and as in depth as I could, but the sheer number of creative ratings given to various ITK posters and certain posters purposely twisting posts just to create a certain narrative meant I couldn't be bothered in all honesty. I carried on sharing within our back of house group as have others, but believe me when I say there's a fair bit you are no longer hearing because some of you can't take ITK for what it is.
Nothing is ever set in stone and things are fluidly changing all the time, sometimes by the time it's been posted on here it's done a complete 180 and back again. Depending on where the info has come from there may well be agenda and or opinion attached, which can skew things. Personally I try and say if I believe this to be the case and depending on the source sometimes that's easier to do than at other times. I generally say when it's come from an agent(but sometimes agents are better placed than even Levy would be
depending on the player involved). Or it's from someone I know at the club and has been there for years. So with that in mind I'll try again, and probably for the last time. As I say take it for what it is which is info that has been passed on in good faith and at the time of hearing was as it was.
There are no lines to read between, and no fucking smokescreens!!!
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Doc, TN, Dele, Rodon, Davinson, Bergwijn are all deemed surplus. There are others we'd accept offers for but they'd have to be above what we consider their value to be. Conte wants 3 in in January, and 3 more in the Summer. It wouldn't be a deal breaker if we only got a couple in now but 6 was what they agreed to be realistic and necessary over the next couple of windows. The priority right now is for a CB that can play left and center a RWB and an attacking option. I know there will be a plethora of you out there with the opinion that other positions are more important, but Conte would like these first, and it has to be done his way now. As I say things are fluid and if the right player became available in another position we would of course look to bring them in as well.
As I posted yesterday It's always been about being in the right place for the start of next season. This next few months are effectively a huge pre season where the players are to learn their new roles and ethos of how the manager wants to play. He wants to first be solid defensively, it's his main priority and the hardest part of his system to get across to the players as it's usually a different system to anything they've played before. From what I was told he feels it's for easier for a good AM to slot into any system and find runners, than it is for CB's or WB's to understand how he wants them to play during different phases of play. That's why he wants to get that side of things established and in place first. Like I say should the right AM become available we'd not turn our noses up but it's not the priority as of right now.
Conte knew exactly what he was getting into when he came in, nothing at all has changed FP has been working on things and I expect us to get at least two and probably the 3 Conte wants this month. I certainly wouldn't rule out more than that if we can get players moved on which again is down to FP now. January as we all know is always difficult but I think FP with all his contacts will find it easier than we've found it in the past.
You need to give it time folks because one things for sure we won't get a better chance than we do with Conte, and anything we can get from this season is a bonus.
Nothing is ever set in stone and things are fluidly changing all the time, sometimes by the time it's been posted on here it's done a complete 180 and back again. Depending on where the info has come from there may well be agenda and or opinion attached, which can skew things. Personally I try and say if I believe this to be the case and depending on the source sometimes that's easier to do than at other times. I generally say when it's come from an agent(but sometimes agents are better placed than even Levy would be
depending on the player involved). Or it's from someone I know at the club and has been there for years. So with that in mind I'll try again, and probably for the last time. As I say take it for what it is which is info that has been passed on in good faith and at the time of hearing was as it was.There are no lines to read between, and no fucking smokescreens!!!
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Doc, TN, Dele, Rodon, Davinson, Bergwijn are all deemed surplus. There are others we'd accept offers for but they'd have to be above what we consider their value to be. Conte wants 3 in in January, and 3 more in the Summer. It wouldn't be a deal breaker if we only got a couple in now but 6 was what they agreed to be realistic and necessary over the next couple of windows. The priority right now is for a CB that can play left and center a RWB and an attacking option. I know there will be a plethora of you out there with the opinion that other positions are more important, but Conte would like these first, and it has to be done his way now. As I say things are fluid and if the right player became available in another position we would of course look to bring them in as well.
As I posted yesterday It's always been about being in the right place for the start of next season. This next few months are effectively a huge pre season where the players are to learn their new roles and ethos of how the manager wants to play. He wants to first be solid defensively, it's his main priority and the hardest part of his system to get across to the players as it's usually a different system to anything they've played before. From what I was told he feels it's for easier for a good AM to slot into any system and find runners, than it is for CB's or WB's to understand how he wants them to play during different phases of play. That's why he wants to get that side of things established and in place first. Like I say should the right AM become available we'd not turn our noses up but it's not the priority as of right now.
Conte knew exactly what he was getting into when he came in, nothing at all has changed FP has been working on things and I expect us to get at least two and probably the 3 Conte wants this month. I certainly wouldn't rule out more than that if we can get players moved on which again is down to FP now. January as we all know is always difficult but I think FP with all his contacts will find it easier than we've found it in the past.
You need to give it time folks because one things for sure we won't get a better chance than we do with Conte, and anything we can get from this season is a bonus.
anydange
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Birthday buds ????
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He is 28 years old, was in the Dirty Chavs U23's from 2012 to 2017, left for lower league spanish teams then was without a club from Nov 11 2020 and retired. He may have known him, being in the u23 during is time, but certainly he is no way a seasoned scout or that conte knew him in the capacity of scout before.
CoopsieDeadpool
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spursfan77
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I saw a graph posted on Reddit the other day that over the last decade, 50% of our January incomings are done in the last couple of days of the window. Granted it wasn’t many players (5 or 6) but it was when most of our actioned happened. The list of players was shocking btw.
What I’m trying to say is that we probably have another 10 days before things really happen. Gonna drive everyone crazy because we need players today, but historically it’s not going to happen. It will be at the end of the window.
What I’m trying to say is that we probably have another 10 days before things really happen. Gonna drive everyone crazy because we need players today, but historically it’s not going to happen. It will be at the end of the window.
Hoopspur
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Someone elsewhere has said (elsewhere) he is the brother of the ex Chelsea player? I don't know though.
Yiddo100
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that would probably be the same for most teams aswell tbh
anydange
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Thank you! ?
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I gave a funny . Not the reply just the spoiler then found the rest of the post. Big thanks Trix as always for your efforts.If you want to know why I've posted nothing over the last week or so it's because nothing has changed since my previous posts. Except some fans patience and expectations of course.
Ok so I've been holding back a little bit because of reactions to ITK posts over the last few windows. Prior to that I've always been fairly to the point and as in depth as I could, but the sheer number of creative ratings given to various ITK posters and certain posters purposely twisting posts just to create a certain narrative meant I couldn't be bothered in all honesty. I carried on sharing within our back of house group as have others, but believe me when I say there's a fair bit you are no longer hearing because some of you can't take ITK for what it is.
Nothing is ever set in stone and things are fluidly changing all the time, sometimes by the time it's been posted on here it's done a complete 180 and back again. Depending on where the info has come from there may well be agenda and or opinion attached, which can skew things. Personally I try and say if I believe this to be the case and depending on the source sometimes that's easier to do than at other times. I generally say when it's come from an agent(but sometimes agents are better placed than even Levy would be
There are no lines to read between, and no fucking smokescreens!!!
..................................................................................................................................
Doc, TN, Dele, Rodon, Davinson, Bergwijn are all deemed surplus. There are others we'd accept offers for but they'd have to be above what we consider their value to be. Conte wants 3 in in January, and 3 more in the Summer. It wouldn't be a deal breaker if we only got a couple in now but 6 was what they agreed to be realistic and necessary over the next couple of windows. The priority right now is for a CB that can play left and center a RWB and an attacking option. I know there will be a plethora of you out there with the opinion that other positions are more important, but Conte would like these first, and it has to be done his way now. As I say things are fluid and if the right player became available in another position we would of course look to bring them in as well.
As I posted yesterday It's always been about being in the right place for the start of next season. This next few months are effectively a huge pre season where the players are to learn their new roles and ethos of how the manager wants to play. He wants to first be solid defensively, it's his main priority and the hardest part of his system to get across to the players as it's usually a different system to anything they've played before. From what I was told he feels it's for easier for a good AM to slot into any system and find runners, than it is for CB's or WB's to understand how he wants them to play during different phases of play. That's why he wants to get that side of things established and in place first. Like I say should the right AM become available we'd not turn our noses up but it's not the priority as of right now.
Conte knew exactly what he was getting into when he came in, nothing at all has changed FP has been working on things and I expect us to get at least two and probably the 3 Conte wants this month. I certainly wouldn't rule out more than that if we can get players moved on which again is down to FP now. January as we all know is always difficult but I think FP with all his contacts will find it easier than we've found it in the past.
You need to give it time folks because one things for sure we won't get a better chance than we do with Conte, and anything we can get from this season is a bonus.
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SpartanSpur
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When you see the Italian media talking about us waiting until Monday for a decision on Tanganga it makes perfect sense for most deals to happen in the last week, this year even more than others due to the international break. It's much easier to finalise some deals when there is a 2 week gap for club football. It's frustrating for us as there's 6 points up for grabs this week but that's just how it is. I'm hoping by this time next week there'll be a lot more noise.
Trix
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Club's position hasn't changed, but it won't be players just for the sake of it.
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Thanks Trix. Sure this will get lost amongst the sea of shite recently posted in this thread.
If you want to know why I've posted nothing over the last week or so it's because nothing has changed since my previous posts. Except some fans patience and expectations of course.
Ok so I've been holding back a little bit because of reactions to ITK posts over the last few windows. Prior to that I've always been fairly to the point and as in depth as I could, but the sheer number of creative ratings given to various ITK posters and certain posters purposely twisting posts just to create a certain narrative meant I couldn't be bothered in all honesty. I carried on sharing within our back of house group as have others, but believe me when I say there's a fair bit you are no longer hearing because some of you can't take ITK for what it is.
Nothing is ever set in stone and things are fluidly changing all the time, sometimes by the time it's been posted on here it's done a complete 180 and back again. Depending on where the info has come from there may well be agenda and or opinion attached, which can skew things. Personally I try and say if I believe this to be the case and depending on the source sometimes that's easier to do than at other times. I generally say when it's come from an agent(but sometimes agents are better placed than even Levy would be
There are no lines to read between, and no fucking smokescreens!!!
..................................................................................................................................
Doc, TN, Dele, Rodon, Davinson, Bergwijn are all deemed surplus. There are others we'd accept offers for but they'd have to be above what we consider their value to be. Conte wants 3 in in January, and 3 more in the Summer. It wouldn't be a deal breaker if we only got a couple in now but 6 was what they agreed to be realistic and necessary over the next couple of windows. The priority right now is for a CB that can play left and center a RWB and an attacking option. I know there will be a plethora of you out there with the opinion that other positions are more important, but Conte would like these first, and it has to be done his way now. As I say things are fluid and if the right player became available in another position we would of course look to bring them in as well.
As I posted yesterday It's always been about being in the right place for the start of next season. This next few months are effectively a huge pre season where the players are to learn their new roles and ethos of how the manager wants to play. He wants to first be solid defensively, it's his main priority and the hardest part of his system to get across to the players as it's usually a different system to anything they've played before. From what I was told he feels it's for easier for a good AM to slot into any system and find runners, than it is for CB's or WB's to understand how he wants them to play during different phases of play. That's why he wants to get that side of things established and in place first. Like I say should the right AM become available we'd not turn our noses up but it's not the priority as of right now.
Conte knew exactly what he was getting into when he came in, nothing at all has changed FP has been working on things and I expect us to get at least two and probably the 3 Conte wants this month. I certainly wouldn't rule out more than that if we can get players moved on which again is down to FP now. January as we all know is always difficult but I think FP with all his contacts will find it easier than we've found it in the past.
You need to give it time folks because one things for sure we won't get a better chance than we do with Conte, and anything we can get from this season is a bonus.
Thanks Trix. Sure this will get lost amongst the sea of shite recently posted in this thread.
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