Its weird because its boring and seems to have dragged out BUT the windows not even been open a month yet!
Player Watch - Djed Spence - Genoa
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Its weird because its boring and seems to have dragged out BUT the windows not even been open a month yet!
I mean I highly doubt conte sees it that way…. He’s just not attacking enough for conte and he said he had to change his system to accommodate him.
Does anyone know much about Frimpong? Young, homegrown (due to youth at Man City), currently in Dutch squad, playing at good level in Germany. No idea how much he'd cost
Trix
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Here's the thing. He is not Conte's choice, what he is, is acceptable.
There are others that Conte prefers but understands there has to be a compromise somewhere due to competition regulations. Spence makes the most sense as far as price is concerned and Levy thinks Spence is the best way around the situation financially but there comes a point when it isn't and we are close to that already.
As I say not Conte's pick, but it's something he believes he can work with as long as he gets his other positions filled to his standards and requirements.
We have been exploring other ways around it which is why Madison and JWP have been linked. Neither of these are Conte picks either, but a compromise has to be made somewhere, which as I say, AC fully accepts.
There are others that Conte prefers but understands there has to be a compromise somewhere due to competition regulations. Spence makes the most sense as far as price is concerned and Levy thinks Spence is the best way around the situation financially but there comes a point when it isn't and we are close to that already.
As I say not Conte's pick, but it's something he believes he can work with as long as he gets his other positions filled to his standards and requirements.
We have been exploring other ways around it which is why Madison and JWP have been linked. Neither of these are Conte picks either, but a compromise has to be made somewhere, which as I say, AC fully accepts.
Essentially, all the English players are expensive and a bit underwhelming but we have to sign one ?
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There's 2 sides to this, 1 is a player that fits the system better than Emerson does, 2 is the quality of the player for that position. Its the 2nd that people seem to be most concerned about (similar to Lenglet at left centre back really). I think the fact that he is a natural right wing back is the key though. His pace is going to cause a lot of problems. Even if his end product needs time to improve he will still occupy players more than Emerson. There were times last season where teams would be happy to leave Emerson free on the right because they had the pace to get across and recover if we switch the ball to him. That won't happen if we get Spence because he is very quick at full stride. That will leave the extra space for the likes of Kulusevski. I would not be surprised if he starts regularly should we get him especially if we're playing on the front foot.
Conte just needs cogs for his machine. He needs players that fit his system and Spence fits his system. If he has top players then of course he has better chance of success. I don't think he's ever really had a team full of world class talent though. Certainly good quality in all positions is important but he did win a league with Luiz and Moses in defence. It's also a matter of getting the best you can in the window, you can't control what positions those available play in. For example Perisic, Bissouma and Richarlison are top signings as were Kulusevski and Bentancur. It's just that they aren't left centre backs or right wing backs. Maybe if a right wing back was in the same bracket as those people would be more excited. We've had great history with developing young players from lower leagues though.
Conte just needs cogs for his machine. He needs players that fit his system and Spence fits his system. If he has top players then of course he has better chance of success. I don't think he's ever really had a team full of world class talent though. Certainly good quality in all positions is important but he did win a league with Luiz and Moses in defence. It's also a matter of getting the best you can in the window, you can't control what positions those available play in. For example Perisic, Bissouma and Richarlison are top signings as were Kulusevski and Bentancur. It's just that they aren't left centre backs or right wing backs. Maybe if a right wing back was in the same bracket as those people would be more excited. We've had great history with developing young players from lower leagues though.
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Wonder if we move on to a foreign RWB we would then push someone like Maddison?
Trix
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Pretty much sums it up. We wanted Kalvin Phillips really early on, but when we found out how much we could get Bissouma for(AC preferred him anyway) it changed the landscape.
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It is a bit like City really
Tyler24durden
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Maybe look at Jeremie Frimpong as rwb as he would be classed as HG I believe. Just a thought.
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Makes complete sense and why this transfer would be holding up our AM search. Hopefully Levy will be able to sort this out in the coming days, although it does feel like a situation of an unstoppable force against an immovable object with Levy and Gibson.
Trix
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Again it's value v circumstance Conte wants other positions filled and the budget is finite. Paying an extra x amount on a hg WB will affect what else we can do, and Conte wants them all filled.
There has to be compromise made somewhere along the line and as things stand RWB is that compromise.
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I wonder if Dwight McNeil could be an option. Would need to be moulded into a wing back but rumoured to be available for less than Spence and has a lot of Premier League experience. If not, maybe Alex Scott has played a lot of football at RWB for Bristol City, is a Spurs fan and looks like a great prospect.
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This is what people don’t get Trix!
H-SF
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Does make sense tbf. Always felt unrealistic that Spence was Conte’s first choice for the RWB signing.
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McNeil is very left footed, but quite surprised someone hasn’t gone in for him yet.
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Tbf people wouldnt get that without posts like Trix's explaining things
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I think they do actually in the main, as similar has been said many times on here. Lots of posters realise why we are going for Lenglet, while lots realise why we are going for Spence and realise that there must be reasons for a delay in his signing other than what is being peddled by the media. It has been pretty obvious for weeks that Spence is Paratici's HG option for Conte as every article mentioned by the likes of Gold says that in one way or another. It is their job to sort the squad adequately to fulfil all the rules whilst maintaining quality. There is plenty of time left. I said only yesterday that it is best to get players in who Conte wants if we have to wait a month than rush and do it this week just to get him on a plane. That's common sense, especially when dealing with players like Spence who so obviously want to come and seem happy to wait.
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Yeah but regardless of it being spelt out from time to time, I don't think it should be too difficult for people to understand it's not as easy as it is on FIFA. There is always a lot of juggling involved and many different criteria that need to be met with each transfer.
The "we should just......" Posts that appear many many times a day are always by people that are looking at things through very blinkered glasses.
Thank god for that
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