Player Watch - Djed Spence - Genoa

[Scot-Spur]

I have said already but I hope we get this done so we can fill the other positions with exactly who we want. I’d take Maddison but personally don’t like the idea of JWP at all.

 

[glacierSpurs]

Here's the thing. He is not Conte's choice, what he is, is acceptable.

There are others that Conte prefers but understands there has to be a compromise somewhere due to competition regulations. Spence makes the most sense as far as price is concerned and Levy thinks Spence is the best way around the situation financially but there comes a point when it isn't and we are close to that already.

As I say not Conte's pick, but it's something he believes he can work with as long as he gets his other positions filled to his standards and requirements.

We have been exploring other ways around it which is why Madison and JWP have been linked. Neither of these are Conte picks either, but a compromise has to be made somewhere, which as I say, AC fully accepts.

I will gladly take Maddison to meet the homegrown quota and have Conte spending whatever it takes on someone he totally prefers for the RWB. Wingbacks epitomise Conte's success. It will be so crucial to have one Conte fully wants.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Again it's value v circumstance Conte wants other positions filled and the budget is finite. Paying an extra x amount on a hg WB will affect what else we can do, and Conte wants them all filled.

There has to be compromise made somewhere along the line and as things stand RWB is that compromise.

I get that the budget is finite but surely the situation at LCB likely means we have more wiggle room on RWB now? We were looking at a £50m+ outlay on Bastoni and now have Lenglet coming in on a short term loan. Bremer has his heart set on Inter Milan and Gvardiol is priced out.

I'm not really seeing where the rest of our supposedly sizeable budget will go. I accept I'm only dealing with incomplete information, maybe we are intending to still spend big money on an LCB or AM which would explain things a bit more.

I'm guessing Richarlison cost more than we initially planned which probably offsets any 'saving' on Bissouma.

As far as HG roles England has a very good track record at developing top level RBs so I think Spence makes a lot of sense as our HG signing from a footballing standpoint as well as financial.

 

[walworthyid]

I wonder if Dwight McNeil could be an option. Would need to be moulded into a wing back but rumoured to be available for less than Spence and has a lot of Premier League experience. If not, maybe Alex Scott has played a lot of football at RWB for Bristol City, is a Spurs fan and looks like a great prospect.

Fantastic player. Really underrated.

 

[YB123]

I have said already but I hope we get this done so we can fill the other positions with exactly who we want. I’d take Maddison but personally don’t like the idea of JWP at all.

Wont go for JWP now.

Surprised we havent gone for Madueke as competition for Kulusevski and plays as 10 and Hoemgrown but hey ho

 

[Ben1]

I will gladly take Maddison to meet the homegrown quota and have Conte spending whatever it takes on someone he totally prefers for the RWB. Wingbacks epitomise Conte's success. It will be so crucial to have one Conte fully wants.

Of course, we’d all ‘gladly take that’. You’ve picked the most expensive homegrown AM and then suggested an unlimited budget on a RWB. Unfortunately, there’s a budget. That’s been pretty well explained.

 

[Dirtysanchez6]

Chill ??

We have almost brought in 5 new players this window and although I agree a new RWB is a must, it isn't the end of the world that we haven't brought one in yet.

I guess we've been spoilt with the early activity and people now think we can achieve everything in the first few weeks of the window.

It would have been great to have a RWB wrapped up for Korea, but it isn't the end of the world.

We are in good hands, we will sign another CB in addition to Lenglet and we will sign a RWB. We will almost certainly bring a creative CM in as well so relax.

Most teams in the Prem will be envious of the business we have done already this window ??

Very true. We can’t really be annoyed tbf the window is shaping up brilliantly. Only thing would be the rwb is a key position in contes system so the sooner the better

 

[mil1lion]

If Conte does have a preferred choice I do wonder why not get Lingard on a free and use the extra for rwb. If we're making a compromise then a squad option for attacking midfield may be the better path. If that means a top quality right wing back who is a clear choice.

 

[Ben1]

If Conte does have a preferred choice I do wonder why not get Lingard on a free and use the extra for rwb. If we're making a compromise then a squad option for attacking midfield may be the better path. If that means a top quality right wing back who is a clear choice.

Yeah, I imagine that comes down to the fact he was unhappy in that role at his former club. Where he goes, he starts.

 

[Trix]

I will gladly take Maddison to meet the homegrown quota and have Conte spending whatever it takes on someone he totally prefers for the RWB. Wingbacks epitomise Conte's success. It will be so crucial to have one Conte fully wants.

Sorry but again that's not how it works. What you are proposing is a huge fee on AM because of the HG proven experience, and then spending more on the RWB to get the best option. I'm sure you'd then want us to pay whatever it takes to get the further CB Conte wants as well.

Like I said it's about compromise to best fill out the squad to our budget.

#fluid

 

[jedimonkey]

If Conte does have a preferred choice I do wonder why not get Lingard on a free and use the extra for rwb. If we're making a compromise then a squad option for attacking midfield may be the better path. If that means a top quality right wing back who is a clear choice.

Doesn't Lingard want something like £200k p/w? Would be a waste of money IMO as he would be on the bench most of the time.

 

[cjsimba]

So 3-4 spots to fill and one of them needs to be HG.

If Conte is underwhelmed by the HG options for RWB and CM, I wonder if we could go down the route of:

RWB - foreign
CB - foreign
CM - foreign
RW - replace Moura with a HG option eg. Harvey Barnes/Jesse Lingard

Sounds like Spence is the cheapest HG option though, so if that doesn't happen we're going to have to make a cost compromise on another position. As Trix says, all a fluid, moist, balancing act.

 

[RJR1949]

Wont go for JWP now.

Surprised we havent gone for Madueke as competition for Kulusevski and plays as 10 and Hoemgrown but hey ho

(Who is JWP?)

 

[Aphex]

I think most of us understand Spence isn't Conte's top choice for RWB, it's obvious. Elite winning coach comes in and wants a kid with 1 year in the championship? Hardly.

It's because he's HG and was cheap, although maybe not that cheap anymore.

Ultimately we have to sign one english player somewhere. I said the other day that RWB makes the most sense to take a punt on Spence, as opposed to other positions where there are top quality foreign options available, like CB and AM.

I think RWB is a position where you can get by with power, pace and lesser ability, than say other positions.

Although I wonder if Maddison as a AM, and then a foreign RWB could be a solution instead. But then that would likely cost ££££ so probably not a goer.

 

[YB123]

(Who is JWP?)

James Ward Prowse....

 

[deanostheyido]

Wont go for JWP now.

Surprised we havent gone for Madueke as competition for Kulusevski and plays as 10 and Hoemgrown but hey ho

I might be wrong, but I don't think Madueke would count as HG.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I will gladly take Maddison to meet the homegrown quota and have Conte spending whatever it takes on someone he totally prefers for the RWB. Wingbacks epitomise Conte's success. It will be so crucial to have one Conte fully wants.

Here's some cake...why not eat is as well?

...and then we can buy Mbappe too

 

[mil1lion]

Doesn't Lingard want something like £200k p/w? Would be a waste of money IMO as he would be on the bench most of the time.

No idea tbh and not sure who would pay him that anyway. Just wonder if that could be an option.

 

[Wick3d]

The HG isn't helped by the fact we want to get rid of Winks. So we definitely need a HG option, probably explains the links to Gordon. Perhaps this is why Gibson is being such a hard arse, he knows all this

 

[Freddie]

I will gladly take Maddison to meet the homegrown quota and have Conte spending whatever it takes on someone he totally prefers for the RWB. Wingbacks epitomise Conte's success. It will be so crucial to have one Conte fully wants.

Have to disagree with the bit in bold. Of all the managers who play wing backs, Conte uses them in the most functional way. In fact if you look back at his teams the wing backs have usually been the least celebrated members...Young, Darmian, D'Ambrisio, Biraghi, Moses, Alonso, Lichtsteiner, De Ceglie, Asamoah. Only Hakimi and Perisic at a push have been stand-out players. The rest just do a job. The real difference makers are in his front 3. It's not a huge surprise we haven't blown a big part of our budget on this position.