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They are also only playing once a week, with minimal injuries to key players, and barely any WC players to worry about.
Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte
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They are also only playing once a week, with minimal injuries to key players, and barely any WC players to worry about.
parj
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Contes spell at Chelsea says this. No European football and large transfer budget, wins the league. Second season with champions League, all of a sudden his squad was rubbish again
PLTuck
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We are certainly playing like it!
But I disagree. The quality is there. The old guard got to 2nd and 3rd in consecutive seasons. You don't do that with absolute shite players.
The new additions have been the usual mix of instantly great, to taking time to bed in or just adequate stop gaps, to signed but not getting played.
HildoSpur
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Players like Son who used to be world class for us have declined significantly and can no longer be relied on, same with Lloris. The players we had that got us there are no longer the same players and those around them are nowhere near good enough in my opinion. Outside of Romero, Kane, Bentancur, Kulusevski and Richarlison I really have very little faith in any of them.
How were you feeling towards the end of last season when we were playing good football and destroying teams?
seems to me that the going gets a bit tough for our players and they get going - happens time after time after time.
I’m not saying conte is faultless - but he had us playing some excellent football last season - and yesterday he tried to explain why…..
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Levy destroyed his legacy by not backing him in the market. Pochettino has acknowledged that himself.
The same argument applies to Conte. I want conte to stay and to be backed not cos I love conte but because I have seen this before with poch and mourinho and I know it's not on the manager anymore. And I'm wondering when everyone else will realise this.
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The old guard is our problem now, bar Kane and maybe Son because he has credit in the bank.
They achieved that success almost 5 years ago already. The teams around
us have all strengthened significantly since then.
It’s time for a change. And that means gutting a lot of players we think are good enough but flatter to deceive most of the time.
Really? Because last season, you said: "Back [Conte] in the summer and we will challenge for the title next season." Then, you said a few months ago that we'd had: "one of the best windows the club has had in living memory," that you were "delighted with who we have brought in." That we had "one of the strongest midfields in the league."
So do you actually think most of our squad is shite, and that Newcastle's is genuinely better - or are you overeacting to our poor form and Howe's incredible management?
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Win tonight and we are 2 points off of Newcastle, playing much shittier football than them.
Keep in mind they have no European football, barely any WC players and barely any injuries to key players all season.
I’m point this out because Newcastle are a common argument for how bad Conte is but they can only managed a 2 point gap on us.
PLTuck
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Bissouma was one of the best midfielders in the PL for at least 2 years before he came to us. He absolutely beasted us last season.
Lloris it could well be decline due to age but I'm not buying that with Son. You don't just turn shit overnight after being magnificent for 3 seasons and at worst good for the 4 seasons before that.
PEH has been our glue for 3 years now. Not technically gifted but everyone needs a PEH in their team. Theres a reason consecutive managers consistently pick him.
Wingbacks is an issue. Sess needs time. He is so young still. Spence needs a proper chance. UDogie looks good but will Conte play him? Our only other real issue is creativity from midfield. AG and ITK have both said these are the priority areas to address during Jan.
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I've read through a lot over the last few days and I'm going to say something I and no one has ever said on this forum/the internet - I've changed my mind ?
I was all for getting rid of Conte, but having read a lot and thought about it, I think we just need to bite the bullet and back him in January to hope the football improves.
Conte does need to up his game but we need a combination of key players back from injury and to give him a couple players in Jan.
I was all for getting rid of Conte, but having read a lot and thought about it, I think we just need to bite the bullet and back him in January to hope the football improves.
Conte does need to up his game but we need a combination of key players back from injury and to give him a couple players in Jan.
HildoSpur
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Yes I do, if you read what I said it was about the transfers we did in that window which I felt was a great start. What I didn't say was the rest of our squad was strong enough. Notice I don't mention the defence at all. By the way trawling through past posts like that makes you a total arsehole.
Bentancur and Bissouma at that time looked like one of the strongest midfields in the league. Didn't know Bissouma would be shite so far did I.
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You’re a human being, you’re allowed to change you mind regardless of what you said in the past even if it were 10 minutes ago.
The truest sign of intelligence is the ability to change your opinion or stance based on new information or evidence.
PLTuck
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If you mean we need to freshen up some of the old guard, yeah I can get on board with that. I like Dier. I think he's a good player, at times 'triffic, but has mistakes in him. Could we freshen his position up. Sure. Davies likewise. Sanchez has been a massive disappointment for me. GK we are looking for Hugo's long term successor.
Other than Kane and Son I can't think of any more old guard that are playing regularly?
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that just says it all
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Hakkz
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If you have limited defenders you don't set them up to play out from the back and you need to shield them better. For example.
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I also remember @nedley banging this drum, and getting the same abuse. We went from two CBs definitely in, to one, to Lenglet on loan. Plus we ended up shipping out people like Gio and Reguilon on loan, subsiding pretty much all of their wages. It started well, but it was a 6/10 window at best. The RWB we all desperately required as top priority ended up being a kid that Conte refuses to play. Now, i know there are reasons behind that, but in Conte's mind, we din't really solve any issues.
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Ehh sorry but how those quotes from Poch makes any argument for what Conte said yesterday? Spurs in 2014 was completely different club than Spurs in 2019 when he said it both in terms of on and off the pitch. Spurs right now isn't that different than Spurs in November 2021. Poch is long-term manager, Conte isn't. I also see the important difference - "our hands", "we" and not "the club"
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Compare the two most recent sides, and Newcastle is comfortably better.
Our last squad:
Kane - gets into Newcastle
Son - not a starter
Gil - not on the roster
Perisic - not a starter at LB
Hojbjerg - rotates with Longstaff
Bissouma - bench option
Doherty - not on the roster
Davies - not on roster
Lenglet - bench
Romero - Schar has had a better season but I think they find room for Romero
Lloris - backup to Pope.
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