brasil_spur
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Not sure how you can judge Emerson as a poor right back when we haven’t played a formation with right backs since Conte joined?
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Conte ball depends on attacking fullbacks that’s why it adds up for us to be interested. Emerson’s positioning and defensive play is far from good.
Plenty of evidence to judge him on pre Conte and pre signing him.
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brasil_spur
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You mean that really crap season he had at Betis when he was 21/22 yrs old that resulted in him being signed by that crappy two bit team Barcelona?
The whole squad, including Kane, looked shocking under Nuno, you can’t make any sensible judgement based on that.
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Hopefully Royale?
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Has anyone??
You're probably in the Conte thread now calling him out as a shit know nothing manager for not starting Spence huh? Seen much of Spence play?
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Probably more likely to take Royal in that case. Not really in their model to develop young players for other teams but Royal might be more match ready for them.
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Cant see why Emerson would agree to this though?
It’s a backward step career-wise for him
Freddie
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Not too sure. If it's made clear to him that he won't get much game time then he'll need to think of his next career move. Given how he's played I don't think Sporting would a terrible option. Maybe an Italian or Spanish side might come for him but who knows. 6 months at Sporting would be a good opportunity to put himself in the shop window.
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That’s possible but I still don’t think you’re looking at this from the player’s perspective.
emerson is first choice right now. So he’d maybe drop to second choice (first rotation) if he stuck around. One injury or suspension and he’s back in
To reach this level, players have self belief and would (rightly of course) back themselves to see off the next arrival.
now of course we will all disagree with this based on what we’ve seen.
Id argue this move for Porro puts most pressure on Doherty and spence in terms of game time but maybe conte and paratici are having serious conversations with all of them about the future.
But objectively Id be surprised to see a premier league player accept a move to the Portuguese league.
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Emerson isn't first choice.
He hasnt started a pl game since 12th November against Leeds. And he was subbed after 57mins.
He hasnt started a pl game since 12th November against Leeds. And he was subbed after 57mins.
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Plus they wouldn’t be buying him in the summer. We need to have a loan now with a obligation to buy in the summer or else we’ll have 4 right backs then trying to get rid of two of them and you can bet we’d struggle all summer to do so.
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Most people want Royal out, so they'll see this news and instantly put whatever player they want out as the player we'd loan with little realism. Emerson is said to be happy and settled in London, there is 0% chance he will go to Portugal and even if he were interested for some random reason we'd have to pay 50%+ of his wages for them to afford it.
If this were true it'd have to be a youngster that hasn't broken into the first team, and it's hard to see someone take that route. Devine, Mundle, John more of these names and I can't see one who Sporting would be dying to have in their side.
Emerson and Spence both will only move if it's a good opp for them and their career. We need a PL team to come in for both ideally, or a top team in Spain or Itally for Emerson, and even then it's not a guarantee since Emerson is happy in London and not causing any issues in the squad and is said to be a popular figure.
He’s most defo not first choice right now, he hasn’t started a league game since the restart.
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As others have said he'll probably drop to third choice. Even if he's second choice, and with all the self-belief in the world I doubt he'll back himself to take advantage of the rare game time he'll get to oust the player Conte will have signed for big money given that he hasn't done enough to cement a starting place when we've had poor alternatives.
I think Spence will almost certainly go on loan elsewhere. Doherty will have fewer takers and will likely to be content to be on the bench. You're probably right in terms of moving from the Prem to the Portuguese league but they're a massive club and if it's just a loan deal it could be a lot worse. I could see it happening.
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Prediction: this deal gets done at £30mm + waived economic rights for Edwards + 6 month loan for Royale (with Sporting to cover wages)
Obviously 99% of the people who want Emerson out would be happy to leave us with 3 attacking right wing backs rather than using their brains and thinking it might be a good idea to have a better balance in the squad by keeping Emerson, thereby giving us the option to be more defensively sound e.g should we take a lead in a tough game or in a CL away leg for example.
Were we getting overrun or out muscled down the right hand side in a match that Porro started, i'd much rather have the option of bringing Emerson on rather than Doc or Spence.
Were we getting overrun or out muscled down the right hand side in a match that Porro started, i'd much rather have the option of bringing Emerson on rather than Doc or Spence.
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Porro release clause is about 40 million. So they drop by only 10 million
Edwards release clause is just over 50million? So that's 25 million we would get for a sale for around that. Plus a a million or so for a loan fee? So we drop about 26 million?
i can see them accepting that, I can't see us offering that.
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Not so sure it’s brainless thinking. Royale is the most athletic imo but he really is not that much better defensively than Doherty or Porro (from what I’ve seen of him). Maybe he’s the best 1v1 defender but his relative lack of offensive presence and technical ability create defensive problems of their own
Montalbano
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Just hypothetic. Would clearly be very complicated structuring and would likely require external valuation counsel. The fact that a deal hasn’t been done already when Sporting are adamant that his release clause be paid and we seem very interested makes me think something like this is in the works.
Really can’t see anyone triggering Edwards release clause at 50mm as it stands, and you’d typically expect the intrinsic, implied valuation of a transaction using alternative forms of consideration to be higher than the “cash” release clause in this context (i.e. you’d need to discount for the risk of the economic rights regarding Edwards release clause)
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