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Financial Results - club announcement

Neon_Knight_

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These results show that Levy is shit / These results show that Levy is great / These results ... Meh.
Profit = Levy should have spent more in the transfer market
Balanced books = Levy should have spent more in the transfer market
Loss (even if it's because of transfer net spend) = Levy is mismanaging the club off the pitch

Am I wrong? ?
 

superted4

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There’s a lot of fire fighting and justification within that statement. I see only £100m of the £150m was drawn down from ENIC despite a big song and dance been made of the £150m. That extra £50m for a CB could
Make the difference between CL qualification and Europa
 

Neon_Knight_

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We had a poll on SC, I can't remember what the final figure was but it was hovering around 85%.

EDIT: I just checked it was almost 83%
I do remember that poll now. That's 83% of SC, not 83% of fans in general, so there is the risk of this place potentially being a bit of an echo chamber. Also, I recall the poll fluctuated a lot, depending on our last result / performance (closing it after consecutive losses / before any January signings were complete would have been far less favourable to ENIC than closing it after we beat Man City / after we had signed Porro & Danjuma).
 

FibreOpticJesus

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Well, we are definitely competing for top 4 and honours. We finished in the top 4 last season and are currently 5th this. We reached a cup final the season before last. So on that basis you should be happy with Levy that he's kept to his word.

If you expected us to be able to compete financially with City you have misunderstood how much revenue it's reasonable to assume a new stadium can make. I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, and I assumed this was fairly obvious, and didn't need pointing out, but a stadium, however lavish, will not make as much money as a country.

I'll give you a minute for that to sink in.


If you are happy with Levy's approach good for you. But he will not deliver what he promised and we will be a very rich but trophyless club.

I'll give give you a bit longer than a minute for that to sink in.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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I do remember that poll now. That's 83% of SC, not 83% of fans in general, so there is the risk of this place potentially being a bit of an echo chamber. Also, I recall the poll fluctuated a lot, depending on our last result / performance (closing it after consecutive losses / before any January signings were complete would have been far less favourable to ENIC than closing it after we beat Man City / after we had signed Porro & Danjuma).
haha

It was a gauge of feelings on SC at the time, we have no way of polling fans in general. You couldn't change your vote plus a huge chunk of the voting was pretty quick so i'm pretty sure there wasn't that much time for fluctuating :D
 

Japhet

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How much do people really think a concert or an NFL game pulls in?

At most across a 12 month period for these extra events your probably talking about £25/30m generated??

That would equate to an Yves Bissouma not a Bastoni.


Not when you consider that payments for players are almost always spread out over the length of their contract. In that case the 25/30m you quote works out to 125/150m.
 

ILS

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Not when you consider that payments for players are almost always spread out over the length of their contract. In that case the 25/30m you quote works out to 125/150m.
Fair point, but i think someone made mention later on that the net profit would be significantly less.
 

Mattspur

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If you are happy with Levy's approach good for you. But he will not deliver what he promised and we will be a very rich but trophyless club.

I'll give give you a bit longer than a minute for that to sink in.

I'm not saying I'm happy, I'm saying that by your own admission, you should be happy with Levy because he's doing what you said you want him to do. He is delivering exactly what he promised. That much is undeniable.

If you're not happy with him then you must be expecting more than you said you were. So what is it? What more are you expecting?
 
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Mattspur

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haha

It was a gauge of feelings on SC at the time, we have no way of polling fans in general. You couldn't change your vote plus a huge chunk of the voting was pretty quick so i'm pretty sure there wasn't that much time for fluctuating :D

Just pointing out that there are 27,709 members and 630 (2%) voted for ENIC out. 132 (0.5%) voted for ENIC In. Take that info as you like.
 

Japhet

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But SC is likely to be a very good representation of the wider fan base, isn't it? Unless you're calling me a weirdo, you bastard...


It's only a representation of those that feel strongly enough to express an opinion. Those with a negative opinion are always going to be louder and more outspoken. It's the way of the World.
 

danielneeds

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May 5, 2004
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so what else should spurs do other than be sustainable and keep pushing on. Spend loads of money and go into administration like a Leeds or get in a sugar daddy to appease the short term situation.
The latter. Sustainability is a joke. The PL is the plaything of billionaires, investment consortiums and sovereign wealth funds. Levy is either dreaming or selling us a lie.
 

Mattspur

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I'll take it as 83% of people who voted didn't vote how you liked.

That's the second pile of pants effort at discrediting the thing.
Just trying to provide a bit of context.

I take it the potential 27,000 who didn't vote how you liked are inconsequential?

It's always those with strong opinions who are the most vocal, and more likely to vote. Most people couldn't care less and I think that's what the poll shows.
 

Harrier

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My read on the situation is that over the past three years we've finally started spending as a club of our means should do, but much of the spend was wasted due to total incompetence within the recruitment setup prior to Paratici's
Nail and head!

Ably demonstrated by having £200m cost equivalent of players out on loan.

‘ENIC haven’t invested in the squad’ is an easy stick to beat them with, but isn’t factually correct.
 

JW72

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If you are happy with Levy's approach good for you. But he will not deliver what he promised and we will be a very rich but trophyless club.

I'll give give you a bit longer than a minute for that to sink in.
No-one can promise trophies though. Yes, big spending increases your chances, and the bigger your spend the more chances you get, but even City with their bottomless pit of money, the "world's best coach" and seemingly fiddling the FFP system haven't bought the prize they really want - the UCL. They've got as close as we have...
 

scat1620

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May 11, 2008
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Just pointing out that there are 27,709 members and 630 (2%) voted for ENIC out. 132 (0.5%) voted for ENIC In. Take that info as you like.
There are thousands of people who just come here for the HITMAN thread and don't give a shit one way or the other about ENIC, m8.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Just trying to provide a bit of context.

I take it the potential 27,000 who didn't vote how you liked are inconsequential?

It's always those with strong opinions who are the most vocal, and more likely to vote. Most people couldn't care less and I think that's what the poll shows.
Context my arse, I know what you're doing, you know what you're doing, anyone with half a brain cell knows what you're doing :D

I guarantee you had the poll result been the other way around you'd be bouncing around SC like a boxer who's just won a world title fight but because it's not the result you wanted you're coming up with all sorts of rubbish in attempt to fog it out or nullify it, you crack on, you might even drag a few people in along with you.

And while we're at it, I guess we shouldn't ever have a poll again unless we can get everyone who's registered on SC to vote in it. But this is just obvious now, so i'm out, it's not a game I can be arsed to play.

Thank you for your opinion and good luck.
 

JW72

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Is Tottenham football club now a better team/more successful team than it was during the eighties- no.
Measured in trophies yes, but that was a different time when trophies weren't almost exclusively won by a small group of mega rich clubs. Also, as had already been said we had large slices of luck in all our 80s cup wins. We rarely challenged for the league at the time (Pleat's 86/87 team aside). Of course I want trophies - and it's been devastating to see us get so close so many times in recent years without success and have that feeling that maybe the board missed opportunities to kick on (see Poch's "rebuild"). But it isn't what defines my love of the club and in my 40 odd years supporting Spurs I cannot remember such a sustained period of us being at the top end of the table and in the latter stages of competitions - and that's in a period when three or four clubs have been using financial cheat codes. Some of that 80s luck in the last 10 years and the situation looks very different.
 
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