Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

fishhhandaricecake · Mar 7, 2023

Hotspur88 said:
Brilliant post!

I was there yesterday, at half time I turned to the guy next to me and we both just shrugged our shoulders. We were the better team but we weren't anything spectacular, it was a boring half of football.

I think it may have been in something like the 88th minute and we put together a nice quick passing move which led to a corner. That was my first memory of the kind of football we should be seeing and it was the 88th ******* minute! We used to see regular patterns of play week in week out and now we are lucky if we see one a game.

It's just not good enough, the football we see week in week out is terrible. We are one of if not the most boring team to watch in the Prem.

Bang on mate and to have gone from the dizzy heights of 3-4 seasons of peak pochball to 3 years in a row of this is quite a comedown, as you say it’s also so frustrating because we see other teams with far lesser resources and apparently far lesser managers getting their squads to actually string some passing moves and patterns of play together and god forbid actually create a few chances and have some shots and try to win.

Sacking Poch when we did was the right decision he and the squad were burntout and it needed refreshing but the 3 years that have followed that, the managerial appointments and some of the player recruitment has been a bad fit, boring and a waste of time.

I hope we beat Milan and go deep into the competition but the end of the season also can’t come soon enough and I bloody hope at the end of it we will be swapping conte for a manager who wants to play watchable football again.

Spurzinho · Mar 7, 2023

nico97531 said:
There’s not much point discussing further after the news today as either way, we will find out soon enough.

What news?

philll · Mar 7, 2023

There'd better be a plan if Conte goes this week or at any point before the end of the season (or indeed when his contract is up). If it's Poch then so be it but don't give it to Mason or whoever for the rest of the season and then bring a permanent manager in - get him in asap so he can get to know the players for the remainder of the season and so he can get an idea of what needs doing in the next transfer window.

rossdapep · Mar 7, 2023

I don't really get those who come on here and say stuff like Poch's football wasn't that great.

Sure, it wasn't like Redknapp's. But Redknapp had Modric and Bale, two incredibly technical players. Not to mention 2 flying wingers.

Poch's teams were exciting because the intensity and energy was so high. We would make teams buckle and our interchanges were fast, sharp and direct when we sniffed goal.

Yes, we struggled to break some teams down but that was mostly when they realised they couldn't go at us.

Growing up as a spurs fan, we'd always get sucker punched by teams.coached by the likes of Allardyce, Hughes and Pulis. Yet Poch had us strolling past these teams even with their low block.

I do think he'd need a playmaker type but any coach who joins us is going to need that type anyway

Archibald&Crooks · Mar 7, 2023

Trix said:
I think they look in all sorts of places very much including forums like this.

Hi Jack

That's right. We know of several journalists who have accounts on here and it's very very likely there are more. That's not to say SC is their only source, they probably lurk on other forums as well.

But people are going to ignore that and carry on slagging their 'research'

Dougal · Mar 7, 2023

bubble07 said:
I do hate it when journalists write when spurs fans think/want when it may not be the case

How does Pitt-Brook research that spurs fans would love Poch back? Does he just ask a couple of fans as his sample ?

He asked me. I answered on your behalf (y)

0-Tibsy-0 · Mar 7, 2023

Trix said:
My apologies but it's been brought to my attention that there are factual inaccuracies in my post. It's actually fucking 5 times they've appointed an Interim manager because they have had no forward planning and not 3.

As you were.

If we just keep appointing David Pleat and Ryan Mason as the interim management team then at least that number won't go any higher... :cautious:

-Afri-Coy- · Mar 7, 2023

Archibald&Crooks said:
That's right. We know of several journalists who have accounts on here and it's very very likely there are more. That's not to say SC is their only source, they probably lurk on other forums as well.

But people are going to ignore that and carry on slagging their 'research'

To any Journos out there who may come across this post, A&C has fed around 2000 kids in Africa off of donations on this site, so please don’t be afraid to drop a couple thousand pounds to help the cause. It will be greatly appreciated, and it’s the least you clout goblins can do seems as your career is based on his forum.

Hercules · Mar 7, 2023

I was all for Conte, but now there is a very bad odour around the place created by him. He has had a very difficult few months. He needs to just go, even if we progress in the CL. The atmosphere is not going to change overnight. I just cannot see it.

Ledders Army · Mar 7, 2023

bubble07 said:
I do hate it when journalists write what spurs fans think/want when it may not be the case

How does Pitt-Brook research that spurs fans would love Poch back? Does he just ask a couple of fans as his sample ?

Exactly. How many of us would love to see Mason promoted to the top job?

Japhet · Mar 7, 2023

rossdapep said:
I don't really get those who come on here and say stuff like Poch's football wasn't that great.

Sure, it wasn't like Redknapp's. But Redknapp had Modric and Bale, two incredibly technical players. Not to mention 2 flying wingers.

Poch's teams were exciting because the intensity and energy was so high. We would make teams buckle and our interchanges were fast, sharp and direct when we sniffed goal.

Yes, we struggled to break some teams down but that was mostly when they realised they couldn't go at us.

Growing up as a spurs fan, we'd always get sucker punched by teams.coached by the likes of Allardyce, Hughes and Pulis. Yet Poch had us strolling past these teams even with their low block.

I do think he'd need a playmaker type but any coach who joins us is going to need that type anyway

I'm not particularly 'Poch in', but him with a DoF, Gvardiol and James Maddison and I think I could live with that.

Ledders Army · Mar 7, 2023

0-Tibsy-0 said:
With both Conte and Paritici both gone for next season and a serious doubt that we hit top 4 - it won't just be Kane leaving in the summer.

Romero and Kulu will probably want a move. Bentancur too - but his injury will scupper that. Udogie won't even want to arrive.

Reversing back past square one without a plan.

Quality stuff.

Tottenham - you're a bunch of *****. I sometimes hate that I love you.

I don't think Kulu will be wanting a move after all the positive things he's been saying about playing in front of the Spurs fans.

Luckily for Enic the cost of hiring a big name manager is significantly less than signing top level players. £15m a year should be pretty persuasive to quite a few coaches.

I think Levy appointed Jose & Conte because we had Kane who wanted win now coaches not a project.

I think Levy will be wanting Tuchel in to try to persuade Kane to give it one more go at achieving the impossible & win something for Spurs.

If not we have Poch ready to step in refreshed & ready for the rebuild with or without Kane

Tucker · Mar 7, 2023

Sounds like the worm has turned. Get Poch in asap, get that new manager bounce and try to salvage something from the season.

Albertbarich · Mar 7, 2023

I'm in no rush to part ways right now for two reasons.

The DOF situation has been critical for weeks. You can go by the theory that he has an appeal but surely we need a plan which is ready to go. And the new man or woman in charge should have a huge say in who the manager is.

Secondly even if we do get knocked out tomorrow then we're down to just the league, a situation Conte thrives in. I don't think he wants to be here but I also think he is an immensely proud and competitive man so all will not be lost.

I'd be over the moon with Poch back but we need a DOF and that should be a deal-breaker in my opinion.

felmani26 · Mar 7, 2023

Today's press conference should be interesting with Conte back

mpickard2087 · Mar 7, 2023

rossdapep said:
I don't really get those who come on here and say stuff like Poch's football wasn't that great.

Sure, it wasn't like Redknapp's. But Redknapp had Modric and Bale, two incredibly technical players. Not to mention 2 flying wingers.

Poch's teams were exciting because the intensity and energy was so high. We would make teams buckle and our interchanges were fast, sharp and direct when we sniffed goal.

Yes, we struggled to break some teams down but that was mostly when they realised they couldn't go at us.

Growing up as a spurs fan, we'd always get sucker punched by teams.coached by the likes of Allardyce, Hughes and Pulis. Yet Poch had us strolling past these teams even with their low block.

I do think he'd need a playmaker type but any coach who joins us is going to need that type anyway

Yep, our football and best run came about when we played with energy and intensity and steamrollered oppositions who couldn't live with it. The front four had freedom and put some good football together, but this was virtually always off the back of the effort, tempo, and aggression we put in as a team.

As we discussed the other week, I'm not keen on Poch coming back. If it is happening then I'd want full on, no compromise, PochBall on steroids but I see quite considerable problems here...... I see fans fretting about him coming in and the likes of Dier, Davies, et al getting more chances. Well I think the bigger question is what happens with Son and Kane (that's if he doesn't go, and with a year left on his contract it's crunch time anyway). If the club wants Poch, these two need booting out to be brutally frank. They won't run, won't press, and at 30+ that is only going to get worse, so immediately you're making compromises on how you want to play. I doubt anyone at the club would have the bollocks to do it though, and like fuck would the fans show any understanding or leeway as to why you're doing this.

Obviously it would only be a starting point, but if we got a centre back to partner Romero then I'd say on paper there's a lot of the nucleus of something Poch could work with - Romero +1 as a partnership, on the flanks Emerson/Porro and say Udogie/Reguilon could provide thrust, and all 5 cm's I see as compatible for a Poch central midfield and he could work with them...... But then the problems start......... I see problems with the attack. We miss the conductor/creator for the Eriksen responsibilities, I've mentioned Kane and Son but I don't think Kulu is fantastic at pressing/off the ball either (though is young enough to be moulded you'd hope). Most fans want signings in defence, but I'd see us needing to make major surgery at the top of the team.

Gilzeanking · Mar 7, 2023

Yeh, it seems nutty to carry on with a lame duck manager. Logic would suggest that a new man in now would help us get set for next season. He can learn who he wants and who not in these 3 months.

Its reported that neither side wants to continue the Conte contract, so....why ? Anyway if we cave to Milan tomorrow mebbe it will tilt the balance and change will come.

jurgen11 · Mar 7, 2023

felmani26 said:
Today's press conference should be interesting with Conte back

cue no questions from the media about the game. loads of questions if he is going to stay. the word energy used about 50 times

Wheeler Dealer · Mar 7, 2023

nedley said:
Yeah.

He's definitely not lost the dressing room yet. But that could change.

Difficult to really define what a 'good chance' looks like. I know we are up there but there is a lot to suggest that it might not be for long.

But I guess football changes fast.

felmani26 said:
Today's press conference should be interesting with Conte back

It will be dull and defensive like his football

max cady · Mar 7, 2023

Wheeler Dealer said:
It will be dull and defensive like his football

and lots of repeating the word 'repeat'

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