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Ex-Manager watch: Antonio Conte

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Every social media outlet is the same. Even the poll in the next manager thread on here he's a very clear favourite. If you think its just a select few on Twitter voicing out for Poch you are wrong. I'd say he's an overwhelming favourite amongst the majority of Spurs fans.

I don't disagree but it's more a comment on how modern journalists do their 'research'.
 

spursfan77

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I've always said this regarding any media leak or ITK it is likely to have some agenda attached to it. After actually having a conversation with my guy as well as other ITK's hearing similar I don't believe that is the case this time round. I'm 99% sure both Conte and Paratici won't be here next season, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if Conte is gone in the next couple of weeks.

Now If Levy pulls his head out of his arse, he'll have people sounded it now and ready to step in. This could be a regain for him with the fans if he moves swiftly and appoints someone the fans could get on board with from day one. Fact is though I haven't heard any names other than MP. Now maybe thats because levy is keeping things very close to his chest and really he has a master plan well under way. Lets be honest here though we've seen this 3 times already under his tenure that he doesn't have a clear plan of attack, or actually know what to do. As such he will just appoint interims(for the third time) while he flits from one candidate to another dragging his backside on every possible appointment for fairly banal reasons that have very little to do with the actual football we will play.

I definitely recognise the sound of the beat of the drums, we’ve been here so many times before. I don’t believe there will be a plan, that’s for sure. It will be seat of our pants panic as usual.

Let’s see on Poch, I’m not 100% he will definitely be able to get him this month. I’m struggling to see him wanting to come back as an interim manager because it’s a hard gig. You’ve got to maintain results whilst adopting your tactics and formation in a short space of time. He might think it is best to come back in the summer and start with a preseason rather than risk his legacy turning up with a third of the season to go and it be a mission to get wins under his belt. But anything could happen.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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I do hate it when journalists write when spurs fans think/want when it may not be the case

How does Pitt-Brook research that spurs fans would love Poch back? Does he just ask a couple of fans as his sample ?
Pretty sure his source is from within the Spurs hierarchy that wants to bring Poch back.
 

Trix

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I definitely recognise the sound of the beat of the drums, we’ve been here so many times before. I don’t believe there will be a plan, that’s for sure. It will be seat of our pants panic as usual.

Let’s see on Poch, I’m not 100% he will definitely be able to get him this month. I’m struggling to see him wanting to come back as an interim manager because it’s a hard gig. You’ve got to maintain results whilst adopting your tactics and formation in a short space of time. He might think it is best to come back in the summer and start with a preseason rather than risk his legacy turning up with a third of the season to go and it be a mission to get wins under his belt. But anything could happen.
Well unfortunately for us, but maybe fortunate for him, half the squad were here from his previous tenure. It wouldn't be all that difficult imo.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I've always said this regarding any media leak or ITK it is likely to have some agenda attached to it. After actually having a conversation with my guy as well as other ITK's hearing similar I don't believe that is the case this time round. I'm 99% sure both Conte and Paratici won't be here next season, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if Conte is gone in the next couple of weeks.

Now If Levy pulls his head out of his arse, he'll have people sounded it now and ready to step in. This could be a regain for him with the fans if he moves swiftly and appoints someone the fans could get on board with from day one. Fact is though I haven't heard any names other than MP. Now maybe thats because levy is keeping things very close to his chest and really he has a master plan well under way. Lets be honest here though we've seen this 3 times already under his tenure that he doesn't have a clear plan of attack, or actually know what to do. As such he will just appoint interims(for the third time) while he flits from one candidate to another dragging his backside on every possible appointment for fairly banal reasons that have very little to do with the actual football we will play.
Thanks for sharing Trix and your view on how Levy will go about it is bang on unfortunately ;-( the beancounter will have no clear plan will fuss over details not relevant to the actual football we play and everything will be done last minute.

If anyone has ever heard of the colour personality test : red, yellow, blue, green, Levy is very blue, very analytical and detail orientated and slow, he overthinks a lot, we could really do with someone with big influence around him being more of a red personality who understands football and who will have a plan and drive it forwards quickly and who is proactive not just reactive.

If Conte & Paratici are 99% likely to both be gone then I’m fine with Poch back IF it’s done at the earliest reasonable opportunity and if the recruitment model behind the scenes is set-up to succeed and give Poch what he needs.

I think we will beat Milan and then that will basically buy conte until the end of the season, I don’t think we will end up with a caretaker like Mason again until the end of the season, even if we go out vs Milan I think conte will just see out the season and try and get top 4 again.

I just hope and pray that somehow levy has learnt from his past mistakes and he acts early with whatever he does.

🙏
 

Cel

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I do hate it when journalists write when spurs fans think/want when it may not be the case

How does Pitt-Brook research that spurs fans would love Poch back? Does he just ask a couple of fans as his sample ?
The next manager thread would indicate that it's true. Poch is the overwhelming majority winner on that poll with like 3 times more votes than anyone else.
 

agrdavidsfan

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I've always said this regarding any media leak or ITK it is likely to have some agenda attached to it. After actually having a conversation with my guy as well as other ITK's hearing similar I don't believe that is the case this time round. I'm 99% sure both Conte and Paratici won't be here next season, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if Conte is gone in the next couple of weeks.

Now If Levy pulls his head out of his arse, he'll have people sounded it now and ready to step in. This could be a regain for him with the fans if he moves swiftly and appoints someone the fans could get on board with from day one. Fact is though I haven't heard any names other than MP. Now maybe thats because levy is keeping things very close to his chest and really he has a master plan well under way. Lets be honest here though we've seen this 3 times already under his tenure that he doesn't have a clear plan of attack, or actually know what to do. As such he will just appoint interims(for the third time) while he flits from one candidate to another dragging his backside on every possible appointment for fairly banal reasons that have very little to do with the actual football we will play.

with all the noise out there this morning, I think we lose to Milan and we will have to press the trigger or we may even be forced to do it before, it’s time for him to go we need to go back a few steps and hire a project manager and press project reset.
Welcome Home Mauricio, at least this time the fans may back you over the board
 

spursfan77

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Well unfortunately for us, but maybe fortunate for him, half the squad were here from his previous tenure. It wouldn't be all that difficult imo.

I just think they’d be a lot of fiddling around for him to do regardless. Anyway, he joined southampton mid season and did fine. If you look at our fixtures it is actually the perfect time to bring him in for a new manager bounce. I want us to win tomorrow obviously, but if we had Poch in for Saturday the roof would be lifted off the place (forest’s away form is turd too so it would be the perfect fixture for him). I can’t see both those things happening though in such a short space of time.
 

0-Tibsy-0

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With both Conte and Paritici gone for next season and a serious doubt that we hit top 4 - it won't just be Kane leaving in the summer.

Romero and Kulu will probably want a move. Bentancur too - but his injury will scupper that. Udogie won't even want to arrive.

Reversing back past square one without a plan.

Quality stuff.

Tottenham - you're a bunch of *****. I sometimes hate that I love you.
 
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spurs mental

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With both Conte and Paritici both gone for next season and a serious doubt that we hit top 4 - it won't just be Kane leaving in the summer.

Romero and Kulu will probably want a move. Bentancur too - but his injury will scupper that. Udogie won't even want to arrive.

Reversing back past square one without a plan.

Quality stuff.

Tottenham - you're a bunch of *****. I sometimes hate that I love you.
Not so sure it's that cut and dry.

If it is to be Poch and everything points to that currently;

Romero I'm sure would love to play under a fellow Argentinian.

Kulu would probably do well and he's got years ahead of him. Bentancur maybe but he could be the lynch pin like Dembele was in a Poch team.

Udogie will know full well what he did with Walker and Rose, even less dynamic players like Davies and Trippier were fantastic under him. Davies at one point IIRC had the most assists of a defender in the PL one of the seasons.

The issue will be replacing Kanes output.
 

mil1lion

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All the players you mentioned never came close to Kane’s numbers or consistency, which is why we were never really challenging back then, getting goals probably won’t be a problem but getting enough goals to keep us challenging will be difficult if not impossible IMO.

avoiding the glaring problem and hope the new manager is going to magically sort everything out is why we are where we are. We had the best defense in the league then as well, it’s still a fucking problem for us after how many years?

Poch coming back or any other manager for that matter won’t solve our issues instantly, it will take time with a proper plan and sound strategy, especially if we need to replace two of our best players as well.
We haven't been challenging for the last 3 years with Kane anyway. We also got to top 4 twice under Redknapp before Kane arrived. Who knows who the next Bale or Kane could be.
 

Jamturk

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With both Conte and Paritici both gone for next season and a serious doubt that we hit top 4 - it won't just be Kane leaving in the summer.

Romero and Kulu will probably want a move. Bentancur too - but his injury will scupper that. Udogie won't even want to arrive.

Reversing back past square one without a plan.

Quality stuff.

Tottenham - you're a bunch of *****. I sometimes hate that I love you.

Calm down.
 

mil1lion

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I just think they’d be a lot of fiddling around for him to do regardless. Anyway, he joined southampton mid season and did fine. If you look at our fixtures it is actually the perfect time to bring him in for a new manager bounce. I want us to win tomorrow obviously, but if we had Poch in for Saturday the roof would be lifted off the place (forest’s away form is turd too so it would be the perfect fixture for him). I can’t see both those things happening though in such a short space of time.
I actually think if Conte goes before the season ends Poch would come straight in. I think that would be done very quickly. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he came in for Saturday.
 

felmani26

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I've always said this regarding any media leak or ITK it is likely to have some agenda attached to it. After actually having a conversation with my guy as well as other ITK's hearing similar I don't believe that is the case this time round. I'm 99% sure both Conte and Paratici won't be here next season, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if Conte is gone in the next couple of weeks.

Now If Levy pulls his head out of his arse, he'll have people sounded it now and ready to step in. This could be a regain for him with the fans if he moves swiftly and appoints someone the fans could get on board with from day one. Fact is though I haven't heard any names other than MP. Now maybe thats because levy is keeping things very close to his chest and really he has a master plan well under way. Lets be honest here though we've seen this 3 times already under his tenure that he doesn't have a clear plan of attack, or actually know what to do. As such he will just appoint interims(for the third time) while he flits from one candidate to another dragging his backside on every possible appointment for fairly banal reasons that have very little to do with the actual football we will play.
The Nuno debacle has eroded any confidence in Levy and the board being capable of adequate succession planning.
 

nico97531

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We haven't been challenging for the last 3 years with Kane anyway. We also got to top 4 twice under Redknapp before Kane arrived. Who knows who the next Bale or Kane could be.
There’s not much point discussing further after the news today as either way, we will find out soon enough.
 

Trix

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I've always said this regarding any media leak or ITK it is likely to have some agenda attached to it. After actually having a conversation with my guy as well as other ITK's hearing similar I don't believe that is the case this time round. I'm 99% sure both Conte and Paratici won't be here next season, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if Conte is gone in the next couple of weeks.

Now If Levy pulls his head out of his arse, he'll have people sounded it now and ready to step in. This could be a regain for him with the fans if he moves swiftly and appoints someone the fans could get on board with from day one. Fact is though I haven't heard any names other than MP. Now maybe thats because levy is keeping things very close to his chest and really he has a master plan well under way. Lets be honest here though we've seen this 3 times already under his tenure that he doesn't have a clear plan of attack, or actually know what to do. As such he will just appoint interims(for the third time) while he flits from one candidate to another dragging his backside on every possible appointment for fairly banal reasons that have very little to do with the actual football we will play.
My apologies but it's been brought to my attention that there are factual inaccuracies in my post. It's actually fucking 5 times they've appointed an Interim manager because they have had no forward planning and not 3.

As you were.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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I actually think if Conte goes before the season ends Poch would come straight in. I think that would be done very quickly. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he came in for Saturday.

I agree but I don't see us sacking Conte. I also don't see Conte walking. To my recollection I don't think he's ever been sacked or walked mid season in any of his previous jobs?

Only time I think will be in danger of being sacked is if our form goes off a cliff and we fall massively behind in the top 4 race.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I think what might be the most depressing thing about all of this is how much my standards of what 'good football' is have been lowered watching Spurs over the past few years.

If we put together any remotely coherent passing move I'm impressed. I actually came away from the first half going 'solid performance' but any fan of a team who has played attractive football at any point in the past few years (basically every other top team) it would've been deemed bang average at best.

It's like Stockholm Syndrome. Jose, Nuno then finally the knockout blow of Conte have made me almost forget what football we could be capable of. When I watch top Champions League teams at the moment I almost feel like I'm watching a different sport.
Couldn’t have said it any better 👏
 
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