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Beni

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Well, there are several points. First is money. We need it, and qualifying for CL provides it.

Second is prestige - we want to be regularly competing with the top teams in Europe, so that it helps attract top players.

Third is attitude - we want to be a club that strives to be the best. We want players who care about winning. We want to set goals and achieve them, not simply shrug our shoulders at difficult tasks.

Fourth is bragging rights - for the club, the players, and the fans.
I agree. My response back was meant to be tongue in cheek to a silly statement
 

HotSprut

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I have my doubts about Mason, but if it means Nigelsman will be our manager next season then I'm all for it, even if it means missing out on 4th (controversial I know)
 

piedpiper

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How exactly was Walker "forced out"?

Poch was alternating between Walker/Trippier and Rose/Davies that season, to keep the players fresh and enable us to compete on four fronts (WB in Poch's system was a very physically demanding position). Walker played over twice as much as Trippier. He may have been unhappy that he wasn't starting every game, but he started a large majority of PL games - even after telling the manager he wants to leave.

He openly told Poch that he intended to leave in the summer - mid-season (April), while we were challenging to win the PL title (we finished 2nd), and with over 2 years left on his contract. I believe he was left out of the team for one or two games immediately after dropping that bombshell (circa April). That was extremely unprofessional from Walker, when he could easily have put the team first and saved that conversation until the summer...then have departed without causing unrest in the middle of a title-race.

Poch's version of events:
“Leaving out a regular always wounds them, creating a rift between them and the coaching staff that can be very difficult to heal. Walker had just played back-to-back games for the national team. Our first match after his return was against Burnley. We played Swansea on the Wednesday and Walker started, Trippier came back into the team to face Watford on the Saturday and was man of the match. Walker came to my office after the Watford game,
'Gaffer, I've been at Tottenham for nine years. I've thought about it and my heart isn't here any more, nor is my head. I've given all I have to give. I wanted to tell you before I tell my agent that I want to leave this summer.'
'Kyle, you have to stay professional, there's a month and a half to go. We're battling for the Premier League and FA Cup. We have to be focused and finish the campaign strongly.'
'OK, gaffer. But it's already decided.'
'Well, that doesn't just depend on you or me. It depends on the club, above all. You've disappointed me because you've decided to tell me that you want to leave when there is a month and bit left in the competition. You could've sucked it up, kept quiet, trained, played and helped the team when not picked... and at the end of the season you could have come and told me.'
I considered it to be an alarming lack of respect for his team-mates and a slap in the face for the club, none of that could be explained to the public at the time.”


Under plenty of other managers (e.g. Fergie), he would never have worn the shirt again.
Yeah I remember it differently but more likely not knowing the behind the scenes stuff you've posted above and seeing him out the team.
 

mil1lion

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Ideas like not bringing a defender on when a defender just got sent off and we desperately need a goal.
Yeah lets focus on that and totally ignore the fact we changed to a back 4 and brought a striker on for a fullback before that.
That kind of convenient way to have a dig at a manager does no favours and makes the job a difficult one for the next manager.
That sub made complete sense given the circumstances. However we do also need to bring on players like Danjuma in addition when that kind of situation happens.
Hopefully the next manager will attack more so they don't get overly criticized when they make a defensive change.
 

he is you know!

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If you don't think that the financials matter, it's probably time to remind people that we still have to pay for Porro and Kulusevski this summer. That is ~£80m before we even begin to think about new players.

I shudder to think what our summer transfer business will look like without CL qualification. As it is, we are going to be more of a seller than a buyer, even with CL - unless we get significant investment from ENIC or a 3rd party...

Sorry, that's incorrect, Deki will be £30m over several years, has been explained many times in his thread. Porro similarly.
 

Chimbo!

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Last time we were plagued by a lack of candidates, now we are plagued by an overwhelming number of candidates. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with appointing Mason as interim while we figure out the best option. Conte forced our hand. Also, I think the Paratici situation means it’s better to wait and see how his case develops. We don’t want to hire his choice of manager and then he has to resign; likewise, if we value him then we should wait to see whether he can overturn his conviction.
 

piedpiper

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Well hopefully JN goes to Chelsea and Potter can then cone to us. Giving us a long sustained successful project playing exciting football and using a system which would allow continuity of the playing staff. Dream scenario👍
I don't see Chelsea play this exciting football you speak of......Brighton weren't anything special either. Look at the guy who replaced him there. In a very short space of time he has them playing.
 

Trent Crimm

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We don’t know what we’re doing. I think it’s also fairly likely some of our targets will be saying no.
 
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