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KaribYid

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I'm still not buying this Chelsea worry.

This is an owner who after 5 mins in the door, signed a bunch of players Tuchel wasn't onboard with.

Then fell out with him.

Then fired him.

He then hired a project coach in Potter, spent even more in players Potter probably didnt ask for.

If he was to fire Potter, he will then just be telling the footballing world he's a control freak who expects instant results with players just dumped on the coach.

Its a huge risk for a guy like Nagelsman who cant really afford a major failure after the Bayern firing.

At least Tottenham presents a chance where risk is lower. And for all of Levy's failures, he is someone who tends to give coaches a bit of time.

I also think Nagelsmann suits our recruitment method better.

And if we bring in a DoF that suits that, that may be a better sell than Chelsea

Lol what?

We've finished the last four seasons with four different managers. Poch lasted 5 years but by his own admission would've been sacked in his first season had it not been for the Kane FK at Villa.

We sack every manager at the sign of the first rough patch, even Pochettino who should have had credit in the bank.

In what world is Levy someone who gives coaches time?
 

piedpiper

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I admire your positivity and optimism, but I just can't see where it comes from based on past performance. I sincerely hope you're right, but I'm genuinely curious to know what you see in the board to have confidence they'll get it right after 15 or so failures.
Look I've always felt they were happy to make up the numbers.... I've watched our dour performances these last few months the cameras would pan over Levy...home and away....he clearly wasn't enjoying what he saw either.

I maintain/ feel we'll be okay. I'm just happy Conte is gone. Let's get the next appointment right. Get us going in the right direction. It really isn't all doom and gloom.
 

DenverSpur

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I know this is an unpopular opinion but I feel it is a terrible reflection on the club that we have “sacked” a world class manager (regardless of what you think of his tactics) because he upset the players by telling them some home truths. Not for the first time either.
 

AtoubaToothpaste

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Look I've always felt they were happy to make up the numbers.... I've watched our dour performances these last few months the cameras would pan over Levy...home and away....he clearly wasn't enjoying what he saw either.

I maintain/ feel we'll be okay. I'm just happy Conte is gone. Let's get the next appointment right. Get us going in the right direction. It really isn't all doom and gloom.
Fair enough, mate. We can agree on Conte (I maintain he should have gone at the start of Jan when it was clear he didn't want to commit; we're always behind the curve and reactive). But I have zero confidence they'll get the appointment right, and let's face it, they could clone Bill Nick and it still wouldn't matter. Until Levy steps away from the football side of the business, we'll be back here again in 18months talking about the 16th manager.
 

piedpiper

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You might want to check @Trix comments in the AC thread …
I did..... I feel differently. Whilst most believe Levy is inept.... he is spurs through and through. Some missteps were made yes.....every other club has made them too.... Arsenal have ( yes won a trophy or two or didn't), Man United have too, Chelsea as well.

They'll get their 1st or 3nd choice target...
 

AtoubaToothpaste

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I know this is an unpopular opinion but I feel it is a terrible reflection on the club that we have “sacked” a world class manager (regardless of what you think of his tactics) because he upset the players by telling them some home truths. Not for the first time either.
It is a poor reflection, but it's a poorer reflection we hired him in the first place when it was clear after Mourinho, that these types of manager are a bad fit. Levy never learns.
 

DiamondLites

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Would rather we made a clean break from the Conte regime, Stellini seems like a nice guy and popular with the squad but he will have a similar football ethos to Conte. We got some good results under his watch but they weren’t exactly scintillating performances. At least Mason would be a palette cleanser
 

piedpiper

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Fair enough, mate. We can agree on Conte (I maintain he should have gone at the start of Jan when it was clear he didn't want to commit; we're always behind the curve and reactive). But I have zero confidence they'll get the appointment right, and let's face it, they could clone Bill Nick and it still wouldn't matter. Until Levy steps away from the football side of the business, we'll be back here again in 18months talking about the 16th manager.
Yeah I agree on that last part, structurally we lost our way and we'll rinse and repeat perhaps. More than anything I hope the Conte out burst has them self reflecting about The Club failures. we haven't won any trophies because we not setup too.... we've always been happy to make up the numbers.
 

DenverSpur

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That's a bad call imo. Nuno like fuck up and coming.
There’s no point rushing the next appointment. If we are unable to get someone of the required quality now it’s far better to wait till the summer and use the time till then to do due diligence on all the prospective candidates. We need to appoint the right guy.
 

Trent Crimm

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I did..... I feel differently. Whilst most believe Levy is inept.... he is spurs through and through. Some missteps were made yes.....every other club has made them too.... Arsenal have ( yes won a trophy or two or didn't), Man United have too, Chelsea as well.

They'll get their 1st or 3nd choice target...

Daniel, go to bed. It’s late and Monday is going to be busy
 

AtoubaToothpaste

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Yeah I agree on that last part, structurally we lost our way and we'll rinse and repeat perhaps. More than anything I hope the Conte out burst has them self reflecting about The Club failures. we haven't won any trophies because we not setup too.... we've always been happy to make up the numbers.
I too share that hope, mate.
 

piedpiper

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Def the OS posting.

Your theory would work if TT hadn’t said it happened super quick.
Yeah.... Tuchel would say that... Bayern were probably giving Nagelsmann until the seasons end.... Contes outburst sped things up because we would have appointed him immediately.
 

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Would rather we made a clean break from the Conte regime, Stellini seems like a nice guy and popular with the squad but he will have a similar football ethos to Conte. We got some good results under his watch but they weren’t exactly scintillating performances. At least Mason would be a palette cleanser
I agree, BUT would it be wise to change the entire philosophy now? Players aren't even back from int'l duty yet. As much as I hate the football, changing it now could be very dangerous. The side were more aggressive and actual tactical decisions made when Stellini/Mason were in charge.
 

piedpiper

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I too share that hope, mate.
Yeah he publicly outed the top management.... happy that he did too. The only positive from the debacle. I always go back to the Poch era we had every fucking opportunity to win trophies but we didn't back him... we had the makings of a good squad...no a great squad....but all and sundry made out that all our money was in the stadium build....

Enic had the option to dip into their pockets and they didn't..... we had Lloris, Vertonghen, Toby, Rose, Walker, Dembele, Kane, Son all our board needed to do was build on that quality...
 

piedpiper

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I know this is an unpopular opinion but I feel it is a terrible reflection on the club that we have “sacked” a world class manager (regardless of what you think of his tactics) because he upset the players by telling them some home truths. Not for the first time either.
He did us a favour.... inflexible stubborn mule. He had to go. Happy it happened now.
 

DenverSpur

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If Naggelsman was really interested in managing us he surely takes the job now, if he wants to keep his options open for possible bigger and better things he "wants a break", or he feels he still has a good rep and is not willing to risk that by working for Levy.
I think everyone is overthinking things here. JN has just been surprisingly sacked from his dream job a few days ago and we had to make an announcement about Conte before the players return to training on Monday. Given that timescale I think it is unrealistic to expect JN to have made any decision by today about what he wants to do next let alone whether he wants manage Tottenham. For all we know he may have gone off on a bender to drown his sorrows. Especially when it’s impossible to say what, if any, European competition we will be in next season. There is a lot for everyone to consider and I don’t understand why people expect it to be so rushed.
 
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lobob8

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I think everyone is overthinking things here. JN has just been surprisingly sacked from his dream job a few days ango and we had to make an announcement about Conte before the players return to training on Monday. Given that timescale I think it is unrealistic to expect JN to have made any decision by today about what he wants to do next let alone whether he wants manage Tottenham.For all we know he may have gone off on a bender to drown his sorrows. Especially when it’s impossible to say what, if any, European competition we will be in next season. There is a lot for everyone to consider and I don’t understand why people expect it to be so rushed.
Agreed, it was extremely unrealistic that JN would agree straight away to move to London and take charge of us 2 days after being sacked
 
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