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Sheff Utd and Wolverhampton would not agree.Probably because he and Mason worked well together when Conte was away for his operation.
Sheff Utd and Wolverhampton would not agree.Probably because he and Mason worked well together when Conte was away for his operation.
I'm still not buying this Chelsea worry.
This is an owner who after 5 mins in the door, signed a bunch of players Tuchel wasn't onboard with.
Then fell out with him.
Then fired him.
He then hired a project coach in Potter, spent even more in players Potter probably didnt ask for.
If he was to fire Potter, he will then just be telling the footballing world he's a control freak who expects instant results with players just dumped on the coach.
Its a huge risk for a guy like Nagelsman who cant really afford a major failure after the Bayern firing.
At least Tottenham presents a chance where risk is lower. And for all of Levy's failures, he is someone who tends to give coaches a bit of time.
I also think Nagelsmann suits our recruitment method better.
And if we bring in a DoF that suits that, that may be a better sell than Chelsea
Look I've always felt they were happy to make up the numbers.... I've watched our dour performances these last few months the cameras would pan over Levy...home and away....he clearly wasn't enjoying what he saw either.I admire your positivity and optimism, but I just can't see where it comes from based on past performance. I sincerely hope you're right, but I'm genuinely curious to know what you see in the board to have confidence they'll get it right after 15 or so failures.
I agree about Sheffield Utd but not sure they chose the line up and after that I place most of the blame on the players. At Wolverhampton I thought we did ok overall just didn’t take our chances in the first half.Sheff Utd and Wolverhampton would not agree.
Fair enough, mate. We can agree on Conte (I maintain he should have gone at the start of Jan when it was clear he didn't want to commit; we're always behind the curve and reactive). But I have zero confidence they'll get the appointment right, and let's face it, they could clone Bill Nick and it still wouldn't matter. Until Levy steps away from the football side of the business, we'll be back here again in 18months talking about the 16th manager.Look I've always felt they were happy to make up the numbers.... I've watched our dour performances these last few months the cameras would pan over Levy...home and away....he clearly wasn't enjoying what he saw either.
I maintain/ feel we'll be okay. I'm just happy Conte is gone. Let's get the next appointment right. Get us going in the right direction. It really isn't all doom and gloom.
I did..... I feel differently. Whilst most believe Levy is inept.... he is spurs through and through. Some missteps were made yes.....every other club has made them too.... Arsenal have ( yes won a trophy or two or didn't), Man United have too, Chelsea as well.You might want to check @Trix comments in the AC thread …
It is a poor reflection, but it's a poorer reflection we hired him in the first place when it was clear after Mourinho, that these types of manager are a bad fit. Levy never learns.I know this is an unpopular opinion but I feel it is a terrible reflection on the club that we have “sacked” a world class manager (regardless of what you think of his tactics) because he upset the players by telling them some home truths. Not for the first time either.
They( Bayern) sounded him out much earlier than this week I'm sure. They just acted swiftly as they risked losing him to us perhaps.
Yeah I agree on that last part, structurally we lost our way and we'll rinse and repeat perhaps. More than anything I hope the Conte out burst has them self reflecting about The Club failures. we haven't won any trophies because we not setup too.... we've always been happy to make up the numbers.Fair enough, mate. We can agree on Conte (I maintain he should have gone at the start of Jan when it was clear he didn't want to commit; we're always behind the curve and reactive). But I have zero confidence they'll get the appointment right, and let's face it, they could clone Bill Nick and it still wouldn't matter. Until Levy steps away from the football side of the business, we'll be back here again in 18months talking about the 16th manager.
There’s no point rushing the next appointment. If we are unable to get someone of the required quality now it’s far better to wait till the summer and use the time till then to do due diligence on all the prospective candidates. We need to appoint the right guy.That's a bad call imo. Nuno like fuck up and coming.
I did..... I feel differently. Whilst most believe Levy is inept.... he is spurs through and through. Some missteps were made yes.....every other club has made them too.... Arsenal have ( yes won a trophy or two or didn't), Man United have too, Chelsea as well.
They'll get their 1st or 3nd choice target...
I too share that hope, mate.Yeah I agree on that last part, structurally we lost our way and we'll rinse and repeat perhaps. More than anything I hope the Conte out burst has them self reflecting about The Club failures. we haven't won any trophies because we not setup too.... we've always been happy to make up the numbers.
Yeah.... Tuchel would say that... Bayern were probably giving Nagelsmann until the seasons end.... Contes outburst sped things up because we would have appointed him immediately.Def the OS posting.
Your theory would work if TT hadn’t said it happened super quick.
I agree, BUT would it be wise to change the entire philosophy now? Players aren't even back from int'l duty yet. As much as I hate the football, changing it now could be very dangerous. The side were more aggressive and actual tactical decisions made when Stellini/Mason were in charge.Would rather we made a clean break from the Conte regime, Stellini seems like a nice guy and popular with the squad but he will have a similar football ethos to Conte. We got some good results under his watch but they weren’t exactly scintillating performances. At least Mason would be a palette cleanser
Yeah he publicly outed the top management.... happy that he did too. The only positive from the debacle. I always go back to the Poch era we had every fucking opportunity to win trophies but we didn't back him... we had the makings of a good squad...no a great squad....but all and sundry made out that all our money was in the stadium build....I too share that hope, mate.
He did us a favour.... inflexible stubborn mule. He had to go. Happy it happened now.I know this is an unpopular opinion but I feel it is a terrible reflection on the club that we have “sacked” a world class manager (regardless of what you think of his tactics) because he upset the players by telling them some home truths. Not for the first time either.
I think everyone is overthinking things here. JN has just been surprisingly sacked from his dream job a few days ago and we had to make an announcement about Conte before the players return to training on Monday. Given that timescale I think it is unrealistic to expect JN to have made any decision by today about what he wants to do next let alone whether he wants manage Tottenham. For all we know he may have gone off on a bender to drown his sorrows. Especially when it’s impossible to say what, if any, European competition we will be in next season. There is a lot for everyone to consider and I don’t understand why people expect it to be so rushed.If Naggelsman was really interested in managing us he surely takes the job now, if he wants to keep his options open for possible bigger and better things he "wants a break", or he feels he still has a good rep and is not willing to risk that by working for Levy.
Agreed, it was extremely unrealistic that JN would agree straight away to move to London and take charge of us 2 days after being sackedI think everyone is overthinking things here. JN has just been surprisingly sacked from his dream job a few days ango and we had to make an announcement about Conte before the players return to training on Monday. Given that timescale I think it is unrealistic to expect JN to have made any decision by today about what he wants to do next let alone whether he wants manage Tottenham.For all we know he may have gone off on a bender to drown his sorrows. Especially when it’s impossible to say what, if any, European competition we will be in next season. There is a lot for everyone to consider and I don’t understand why people expect it to be so rushed.