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King of the Lane · May 13, 2023

I keep reading that people want Mason/Poch because they know the club.....well I dont!...and that's because to know the club means you know we are bottle jobs that always come up short. I want changes from top to bottom as that is the only way we will ever see our fortunes change and sadly under Levy/Enic that wont happen.

Id still be reasonably happy with Slot (mainly as I have money on him lol) but I dont think we will ever kick on no matter how good our manager is - it takes more than that in the modern game.

ShriekinKnight · May 13, 2023

feet01 said:
It’s a win win for levy though. No fans will boo or moan at Mason at least for a very long time

My man if Unai Emery pulls a masterclass in a few hours I think a solid majority will sour on him before he even gets the gig :LOL:

felmani26 · May 13, 2023

Now it's Spursonal said:
From reading all of the reports, I think the main issue was that we want a different DOF to whoever Nagelsmann wanted.

I’d hazard a guess even that we have basically settled on who our DOF will be, and that’s why we were unwilling to change the full plan for Nagelsmann.

I haven't yet seen any reports on this so any (credible) links welcome.

An interesting take though but as well as managers being linked left, right and centre with us, so has DoF's in recent days; Braz, Spors, Pinto, Planes, Monchi et al.

A Bit Much · May 13, 2023

Stamford said:
And thats all well and good. But they have said they had no intention of speaking to him at all. If they did talk to him and couldnt agree, move on and get your manager without this bullshit PR. If you didnt speak to one of the stand out candidates then thats even worse.

Whichever way this is looked at it is not good. Whether it ends up as the right decision is a separate matter.

I should imagine it's either a lie (we have spoken with him and even interviewed) or we've done the usual agent talk/informal chat and decided we aren't comfortable with what he wants. Therefore it's accurate to say we aren't going to bring him in for the PowerPoint and hand shandy session with levy.

St José Dominguez · May 13, 2023

Not sure how it’s gone from Levy having to get the next appointment bang on due to being under the most pressure of his tenure to there being a genuine possibility of Ryan Mason (with respect to the guy) being given the job. It’s astonishing but I guess that’s why Levy is where he is and I’m eating a bag of hula hoops for breakfast.

midoshairband · May 13, 2023

Spurs have broken me. I'm honestly past caring now, certainly well past getting angry about the situation.

JacoZA · May 13, 2023

Two weeks till the end of the season and not only do we not have a guy, we don't even have the guy who is supposed to pick a guy.

I'm beginning to worry that Daniel thinks COYS stands for 'Carry On You Spurs'?

dontcallme · May 13, 2023

JacoZA said:
Two weeks till the end of the season and not only do we not have a guy, we don't even have the guy who is supposed to pick a guy.

I'm beginning to worry that Daniel thinks COYS stands for 'Carry On You Spurs'?

As the announcement was Mason would have job until the end of the season, I don't get why this is an issue.

Cochise · May 13, 2023

It's thread's like this that make me yearn for the return of the "optimistic" rating

JamieSpursCommunityUser · May 13, 2023

easley91 said:
The trouble is Levy could come out and say something and none of you believe it anyways. "PR spin".

I am not saying you are not allowed to want those things, but there is so much anger here. That's my point. One name drops out and all of a sudden IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD.

You all react to negative news in a ridiculous way to me. Any positive news you'll find an angle to make it negative or just are not bothered.

I'm also sick and tired of seeing some being labelled this or that because they say a good thing about Mason (or Levy). It's tiresome. Some have to keep bringing up a Levy fan club. Some have to keep saying you must want Mason over everyone else, because you say one positive thing about him.

I'm just tired of the over the top unnecessary reactions to things on here I guess. People keep saying they're done with the club, but I know you'll be keeping tabs on the game v Vila and the manager/DOF search.

Rant over.

Both pro and anti Levy "groups" are being drawn into the same polarised internet discussion.

You don't want to be lumped in with happy clappers every time you express nuance in favour of something good Levy has done.

I don't want to be dismissed as some mouth foaming "spend some f-ing money Levy FFS" lunatic for criticising a long pattern of terrible decisions which is damaging the club.

Where ENIC attacks are untrue I"ll push back. Like how we spend lots of money, and it all goes back into the club. ENIC aren't the Glazers.

But any positive change happening at the club of late has only happened because of fans applying pressure. So as much as some of the noise I hear is barmy and incoherent, fans are right to protest for change.

Levy wouldn't be appointing Munn if fans weren't making it uncomfortable for him. Whether he undermines, ignores, or goes around this role will in part be influenced by fans keeping Levy in line.

There's good bits of Levy and bad Levy. The cynicism and lack of benefit of the doubt afforded to bad Levy has been well earned by his actions.

If he improves his actions, many will cut him more slack. It's as simple as that.

I've gone from being fully signed up member of the BSODL from 2001 to the mid 2010s - armed with all the net spend league tables - to not trusting his decision making at all.

Now that fan mistrust has spread to the comms and BS spin justifying it. It's all well earned.

All we ask is he hires the best football brains our considerable resources can buy, and keeps his ego in check from interfering.

A perfectly reasonable request. Not like 2010-15 when fans were demanding to spend money we didn't have.

Timberwolf · May 13, 2023

midoshairband said:
Spurs have broken me. I'm honestly past caring now, certainly well past getting angry about the situation.

Yeah I'm in the same boat.

Barring a miracle Levy's here to stay and I don't think fan pressure or protests will influence that in the slightest.

Can't be arsed to get angry about his shit decisions anymore so more just hopeful we can find a DoF that can work with him and we stumble into another Poch-esque manager on their way up.

All this shit it outside of our control so I find it's better to just laugh at the nonsense while maintaining a glint of optimism and hope, cos without that being a fan is no fun.

-Afri-Coy- · May 13, 2023

Ghost Hardware said:
TBH that is completely the kind of thing he’d do no? At this point everyone knows he is completely out of his depths. How many times do we need to witness him making the same mistakes in order to realise he actually has no clue what he’s doing when it comes to football.

This is very true, I just think there is still a small group of fans who still have faith in him and the board to get things right, when they’ve done very little to prove they deserve anymore leeway.

Russ1201 · May 13, 2023

Wig said:
Good to see the press openly questioning the info that was leaked by the club.

Unfortunately though Levy doesn't care about bad press or the fans.
Only thing that he cares about is making money from the stadium with multi sport/entertainment.
Yet us fans let him destroy our club and he is laughing at us as we are so soft. It's going to be another mediocre season coming up and he won't care a jot as he makes money through other ways.

sparx100 · May 13, 2023

dontcallme said:
As the announcement was Mason would have job until the end of the season, I don't get why this is an issue.

I think it is the seeming lack of direction we are going in. A DoF has not even been announced so it feels that we are further away than the end of the season before announcing any managerial update

Now it's Spursonal · May 13, 2023

felmani26 said:
I haven't yet seen any reports on this so any (credible) links welcome.

An interesting take though but as well as managers being linked left, right and centre with us, so has DoF's in recent days; Braz, Spors, Pinto, Planes, Monchi et al.

No cast-iron reports on this at all mate, was purely just my opinion.
My opinion comes from the fact that all the reports have said that Nagelsmann was waiting on the DOF to be appointed.

Teegart · May 13, 2023

I keep reading we would need to have the “bottle” to stick with it after appointing Mason, like Arteta got. What has Mason shown that he would indicate he would be a success giving him said time? He seems a thoroughly nice bloke and you can tell he loves the club, doesn’t mean he’s remotely ready to be our manager.

Just curious also, I assume the posters who didn’t want Kompany or Alonso due their lack of experience, also have said they don’t want Mason?

Yiddo100 · May 13, 2023

JacoZA said:
Two weeks till the end of the season and not only do we not have a guy, we don't even have the guy who is supposed to pick a guy.

I'm beginning to worry that Daniel thinks COYS stands for 'Carry On You Spurs'?

But we do have the guy who is supposed to pick the guy? And there’s still 2 weeks before the season ends.

Zeb · May 13, 2023

Don't know what you are all moaning about....
There's always been the concern that we hire managers late and say they needed a full preseason to get things going properly.
Now Mason has started his before the season has ended!
Levy masterstroke - see, lessons have been learned

felmani26 · May 13, 2023

Now it's Spursonal said:
No cast-iron reports on this at all mate, was purely just my opinion.
My opinion comes from the fact that all the reports have said that Nagelsmann was waiting on the DOF to be appointed.

Yea I just seen the Matt Law article and the posts in the Painful Rebuild thread.

Could point to us looking more strongly at options like Amorim and (please) Gallardo.

dontcallme · May 13, 2023

sparx100 said:
I think it is the seeming lack of direction we are going in. A DoF has not even been announced so it feels that we are further away than the end of the season before announcing any managerial update

I'm concerned about the direction the club is going in regardless.

But getting in a manager and DOF early is unlikely. Many of the best options will be more likely open to a move once the season ends.

I see no need to limit ourselves to currently available options.

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