Next Manager Watch

[Timberwolf]

If he wasn't a Spurs man and we were looking to appoint a bloke called Bryan Jason with an identical career trajectory at Aston Villa, 100% of fans would think it was a suicidal appointment.

To be fair knowing the club and the players inside-out does give him an advantage but if you take away the club-allegiance and romanticism there's still very little there to justify appointing him to such a big job straight off the bat.

 

[the yid]

I keep reading we would need to have the “bottle” to stick with it after appointing Mason, like Arteta got. What has Mason shown that he would indicate he would be a success giving him said time? He seems a thoroughly nice bloke and you can tell he loves the club, doesn’t mean he’s remotely ready to be our manager.

Just curious also, I assume the posters who didn’t want Kompany or Alonso due their lack of experience, also have said they don’t want Mason?

Let me start by saying I want someone with a bit more experience. Arteta was Peps #2 and had never managed a football club before Arsenal and the first couole seasons was learning on the job and the fans crucified him wanted him sacked but board stuck with it

 

[Timberwolf]

Let me start by saying I want someone with a bit more experience. Arteta was Peps #2 and had never managed a football club before Arsenal and the first couole seasons was learning on the job and the fans crucified him wanted him sacked but board stuck with it

I do think being the immediate number 2 and close confidant of the best tactical mind of his generation does give Arteta a massive advantage though.

He's basically just copied the Guardiola blueprint at Arsenal, but the only way he was able to do that was by spending 3 years studying, living and breathing Guardiola's methods at a title-winning team.

He's also older, more experienced than Mason and had captained Arsenal before....and he was still a bit shit in his first 2 years as manager and made loads of mistakes to begin with.

 

[Stoof]

It’s embarrassing that he’s rejected us, but trying to get in first and spin the truth in such a clumsy way is more than embarrassing, it’s an absolute shambles. It makes the club look like complete amateurs, it’s playground stuff.

Do we know what PR experience Donna-Marie Cullen had before joining Spurs? I’m not sure she’s fit and proper to host a WhatsApp chat let alone a Premier League football club, what planet does she live on???

I am so done with this Board, they simply have no idea.

Like I said mate - a lose-lose.

But Prof seems to think it’s led by us. So whether it’s spin or simply the case we didn’t want to pursue him any more then that’s fine in my book. And I can see the thinking behind getting a message out first given what happened with Chelsea. Whether the execution of it was good, I can’t really judge - but goes back to the general theme that anything slightly negative is a world ending disaster.

 

[Tucker]

If he wasn't a Spurs man and we were looking to appoint a bloke called Bryan Jason with an identical career trajectory at Aston Villa, 100% of fans would think it was a suicidal appointment.

To be fair knowing the club and the players inside-out does give him an advantage but if you take away the club-allegiance and romanticism there's still very little there to justify appointing him to such a big job straight off the bat.

He does have club allegiance and he does know the club and players inside out though. So this part I’ve put in bold is utterly meaningless.

It’s fine to think he’s not experienced enough. But let’s not pretend he doesn’t have positives too.

 

[dontcallme]

If he wasn't a Spurs man and we were looking to appoint a bloke called Bryan Jason with an identical career trajectory at Aston Villa, 100% of fans would think it was a suicidal appointment.

To be fair knowing the club and the players inside-out does give him an advantage but if you take away the club-allegiance and romanticism there's still very little there to justify appointing him to such a big job straight off the bat.

True, but the thought process would definitely be hiring him on the basis of him knowing the club.

No way would Barcelona have hired Pep if he'd never been at the club and only managerial experience was a season at a club's B side.

Personally, I think hiring people on this basis fails a lot more than is successful so I'd steer clear.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

Honestly I'm at the point where I'm laughing at how badly we appear to be run.
I'm beyond being angry/frustrated now.

yeah, just feel a bit detached now. Which is depressing in itself.

 

[ljinko888]

I think we will get Slot for sure now. The briefings that Nagelsmann is not even going to be contacted after the last several weeks of reports to the contrary clearly suggest he has turned us down.

 

[KingNick]

He does have club allegiance and he does know the club and players inside out though. So this part I’ve put in bold is utterly meaningless.

It’s fine to think he’s not experienced enough. But let’s not pretend he doesn’t have positives too.

I don’t agree those things are necessarily positives. We need a fresh start.

 

[Timberwolf]

He does have club allegiance and he does know the club and players inside out though. So this part I’ve put in bold is utterly meaningless.

It’s fine to think he’s not experienced enough. But let’s not pretend he doesn’t have positives too.

Ok I should've written "even if you include the club allegiance and romanticism...".

He has positives but they're nowhere near big enough IMO.

 

[dirtyh]

I hope I'm alive to see the day where Levy leaves

I hope you’re under 25

 

[JCRD]

Is that you Daniel?

Because im not reactionary to the news? You think if I was Danny boy, the owner of a PL club, with a few million in the bank, id care what anyone on here says?

The fact is, ive had enough of chasing aimlessly to win trophies. That has got us nowhere. The nearest we got to winning stuff is when we got rid of the riff raff and rebuilt. That takes a bit of time. Ultimately we should have started all this four years ago and we wouldnt be where we are - but the decision making has been completely devoid of competence from Levy and the Board - and I do believe that was based on chasing trophies.

I am still optimistic and all this is far too negative based on scenarios we have conjured up in our minds because we want to confirm what we believe rather than what is actually happening - which none of us know.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

I think we will get Slot for sure now. The briefings that Nagelsmann is not even going to be contacted after the last several weeks of reports to the contrary clearly suggest he has turned us down.

I think the club's version of events is probably closer to the truth - obviously we have been in contact, but I suspect Nagelsmann made some demands, and wanted some assurances that Levy knew he would not make - and thus Levy decided to walk away, rather than Nagelsmann turning us down.

Its a bit semantics - because Nagelsmann would have turned us down if Levy had not walked away.

 

[Russ1201]

Yet some fans believe the shit spin from spurs PR fuck levy really does have the fans onside. No chance of any change to us fans make a serious stance.

 

[Fredo]

I hope you’re under 25

I'm 24 so have a decent chance of seeing it but you just never know

 

[KingNick]

I think the club's version of events is probably closer to the truth - obviously we have been in contact, but I suspect Nagelsmann made some demands, and wanted some assurances that Levy knew he would not make - and thus Levy decided to walk away, rather than Nagelsmann turning us down.

Its a bit semantics - because Nagelsmann would have turned us down if Levy had not walked away.

Worth noting that they seem likely to have been demands that Chelsea would not agree to either.

maybe there is just something about JN that rubs people up the wrong way.

 

[spurs mental]

It’s again the decision to state we’re not gonna interview him etc that makes us perceived as a joke all over the media again. We have constantly to deal with kanes too good for us, and the Kane has no ambition cause he wants to stay with us. The drive in the media for him to leave to united etc and now our PR team stating this shit were constantly being made a mockery of and were the fans that have to put up with it.

How can someone who seems to care so much about what the media, players and other fans think of us say the below. What sort of effect would 3 defeats have on their opinions then? God love you.

I hate saying this but I want us to lose next three games so mason doesn’t get it

 

[Timberwolf]

I'm 24 so have a decent chance of seeing it but you just never know

"At the ripe old age of 104, Daniel Levy has now become the oldest chairman to ever run a business, let alone a football club. Remarkable, given Spurs have not won a single trophy in the last 57 years of his tenure"

 

[bubble07]

If Levy is really placing the next manager of our club on the next 3 games (appointing Mason) then he is even more out of his depth in the footballing realm than we thought.

But we shouldn't be surprised

 

[Fredo]

"At the ripe old age of 104, Daniel Levy has now become the oldest chairman to ever run a business, let alone a football club. Remarkable, given Spurs have not won a single trophy in the last 57 years of his tenure"

Sadly this is definitely possible