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Finchyid

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That's not my point.

My point is if we brought in another CB in summer like we should have, Romero and VDV would have been rotated or at least rested.

It's not about hindsight.

We were short on September 1st and this, with our luck was relatively predictable.

no way Romero and VDV would be rested even with 3 cb’s especially with no Europe
 

worcestersauce

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Not sure what all the fuss is about, do we need at least one CB? Yes, should we get them in quickly? Yes, even if they're the wrong one? No of course not.
Is JC Todibo the right one? I haven't got a clue but we seem keen so should we make a real effort to get him in quickly? Yes of course.
The next month matters but not as much as the next three years.
 

Ron Burgundy

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Not sure what all the fuss is about, do we need at least one CB? Yes, should we get them in quickly? Yes, even if they're the wrong one? No of course not.
Is JC Todibo the right one? I haven't got a clue but we seem keen so should we make a real effort to get him in quickly? Yes of course.
The next month matters but not as much as the next three years.
100%. It’s always a balance. I get that waiting till the last minute in the summer is often bad planning, it in January it’s much harder
 

14/04/91

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Quote from Ange;

'Obviously if we can do business early it's great,' said Postecoglou. 'Not just because of losing Romero, but there's a whole month there - why waste it?
Even if they don't play, you can bed them into training and our style of football, because it's not like we're going to sign somebody and they'll hit the ground running.
'Whereas if you leave it towards the end of January, it's potentially not until the middle or end of February when they get up to speed, depending on the league they're coming from.
 

dontcallme

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If we want a quick deal it appears the guy from Genoa is the one.

An itk earlier suggested this Todibo deal isn’t a quick one. My interpretation was it wasn’t just about putting up the money.

Given the amount of league games we have in January I’d rather we get the right player than the available one.

That being said I have no real idea on the ability of either target.
 

Styopa

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Not sure what all the fuss is about, do we need at least one CB? Yes, should we get them in quickly? Yes, even if they're the wrong one? No of course not.
Is JC Todibo the right one? I haven't got a clue but we seem keen so should we make a real effort to get him in quickly? Yes of course.
The next month matters but not as much as the next three years.

I agree, although the league seems to be wide open this year and there is a possibility we look back on this season as a bit of a missed opportunity. Time will tell I guess. But I absolutely agree we have to do what’s best for the long term overall.
 

Mr Pink

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Quote from Ange;

'Obviously if we can do business early it's great,' said Postecoglou. 'Not just because of losing Romero, but there's a whole month there - why waste it?
Even if they don't play, you can bed them into training and our style of football, because it's not like we're going to sign somebody and they'll hit the ground running.
'Whereas if you leave it towards the end of January, it's potentially not until the middle or end of February when they get up to speed, depending on the league they're coming from.

Agne certainly gets it

Bizzare that some in here don't and insist that's ok to wait until the end of the window....same ones every year as well.

If it means paying a bit more to get them in early, see the big mans quotes above.
 

dontcallme

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Agne certainly gets it

Bizzare that some in here don't and insist that's ok to wait until the end of the window....same ones every year as well.

If it means paying a bit more to get them in early, see the big mans quotes above.
Getting deals done early isn’t always simply about paying a bit more though.

If it was loads of deals would be done very early. Instead most are done at the end of the month. By every club, not just us.
 

Maxtremist

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Agne certainly gets it

Bizzare that some in here don't and insist that's ok to wait until the end of the window....same ones every year as well.

If it means paying a bit more to get them in early, see the big mans quotes above.
I have seen no-one insisting that it's okay we wait till the end of the window. At most, I've just seen people calm/accepting that if we have to wait till the end of the window to get the 'right' person in then that's okay. I'm in that camp.

Obviously everyone would want our business done as soon as possible. But it's not that simple. It's rarely (if ever) just a case of paying 'a bit more'. Transfers are more complicated than that. It's why so many other teams also get deals done towards the end of the window.

Overall yes, I want this guy. Yes, I would love it done early. If it's done end of Jan? Then I'm fine with that as well. It's not my first choice but at least it gets done.
 

luRRka

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At least show the full quote - "I dunno [if we can] because there's just so many moving parts...So there's a whole lot of moving parts. So yes, I'd love to do something early in the window but even me saying that puts a challenge on us - because other clubs know we want to do something early

"You've got to play the game, we'll see what happens but I'm hopeful it will be much earlier than the end of the window before we bring someone in."


Obviously we all want an early transfer but there's (at least) 3 parties to every deal. We can't pop to the centre back shop and take what we want. Here's hoping Ange gets his wish and the new transfer team work their magic
 

14/04/91

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Not sure what all the fuss is about, do we need at least one CB? Yes, should we get them in quickly? Yes, even if they're the wrong one? No of course not.
Is JC Todibo the right one? I haven't got a clue but we seem keen so should we make a real effort to get him in quickly? Yes of course.
The next month matters but not as much as the next three years.
But we should know who we want. This cb situation hasn’t happened overnight and our list should’ve been made in September. It will have been tweaked since then but we absolutely should have options in order of preference. Also there’s no reason why wheels haven’t been in motion for weeks to get a deal done.
 

worcestersauce

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But we should know who we want. This cb situation hasn’t happened overnight and our list should’ve been made in September. It will have been tweaked since then but we absolutely should have options in order of preference. Also there’s no reason why wheels haven’t been in motion for weeks to get a deal done.
And I'm sure we do I'm not sure why you'd think otherwise.
 

archiewasking

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What's happened with Tapsoba? Is he no longer of interest to us? Or is this guy significantly better?
 

Maxtremist

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What's happened with Tapsoba? Is he no longer of interest to us? Or is this guy significantly better?
He's currently playing for a team Unbeaten in the Bundesliga and is a key part of their defence. I don't know if this guy is better or not but with Tapsoba I think it's sadly a moment missed for us.
 

Mr Pink

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I have seen no-one insisting that it's okay we wait till the end of the window. At most, I've just seen people calm/accepting that if we have to wait till the end of the window to get the 'right' person in then that's okay. I'm in that camp.

Obviously everyone would want our business done as soon as possible. But it's not that simple. It's rarely (if ever) just a case of paying 'a bit more'. Transfers are more complicated than that. It's why so many other teams also get deals done towards the end of the window.

Overall yes, I want this guy. Yes, I would love it done early. If it's done end of Jan? Then I'm fine with that as well. It's not my first choice but at least it gets done.

Look, im not saying its simple ffs....

But it doesnt mean things cant be underway when weve known our predicament for several weeks....add to the fact we've paid the price for not buying one in the summer, a risk that has spectacularly backfired.

This comparison to other Clubs is irrelevant as circumstancrs are unique to each Club.

Our cirmcumstances have been terrible for several weeks and have just got worse.

I doubt many other Clubs, who have the financial means, have the same NEED we currently have.
 

Maxtremist

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Look, im not saying its simple ffs....

But it doesnt mean things cant be underway when weve known our predicament for several weeks....add to the fact we've paid the price for not buying one in the summer, a risk that has spectacularly backfired.

This comparison to other Clubs is irrelevant as circumstancrs are unique to each Club.

Our cirmcumstances have been terrible for several weeks and have just got worse.

I doubt many other Clubs, who have the financial means, have the same NEED we currently have.
... and?

Things are seemingly underway. Look at ITK, look at Romano sharing updates etc...

Were you expecting us to have a deal fully agreed and announced already? That pretty much never happens with anyone. You might get like Man City have and are all but confirmed for a young talent to join in the summer but I can't think of any club who has a guaranteed player announced to come in on Jan 1st for their 1st team.

So right now, from the outside looking in, our club seem to be doing the right things so we just have to wait and see.
 

Stoof

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Agne certainly gets it

Bizzare that some in here don't and insist that's ok to wait until the end of the window....same ones every year as well.

If it means paying a bit more to get them in early, see the big mans quotes above.
It’s also the same ones that don’t really get that we’re not the only party involved in determining the speed of a transaction.
 

rossdapep

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Quote from Ange;

'Obviously if we can do business early it's great,' said Postecoglou. 'Not just because of losing Romero, but there's a whole month there - why waste it?
Even if they don't play, you can bed them into training and our style of football, because it's not like we're going to sign somebody and they'll hit the ground running.
'Whereas if you leave it towards the end of January, it's potentially not until the middle or end of February when they get up to speed, depending on the league they're coming from.
And something Levy has never seemed to grasp the importance of when weighing it up against shaving a few million off.

Sometimes it is fine to wait and save that few million but other times it costs you way more. Even a couple of defeats is very expensive (where would we be sitting had we had stable CBs slotting in?).

You don't fuck around when you need key players in key positions where your place in the league is up for grabs, you get players in (as long as everyone is on board with the player) and get them up to speed quick
 
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