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Manager Watch: Ange Postecoglou

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I do wonder if journalists are deliberately asking these kinds of questions now just to get a "funny Ange response"?
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IfiHadTheWings

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Looking at those quotes from Kulu i can see Ange having his own crop of "disciples" similar to Pep who when they hang up their boots go in to management using Ange's principles and vision of the game.

he's got that sort of gravitas
 

RuskyM

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A Kulusevski quote about Ange in an interview after winning Sweden's Player of the Year & Midfielder of the Year

You have had many great coaches, who do you have the warmest feelings for?

– Of the great ones...? Let me think now. I've learned so much. At Atalanta, it started with Gasperini. I was young, I was hungry, but I didn't get to play, and I thought it was his fault. But it was my fault. So I learned from him, it was hard work. The Italian style was also present with Conte, just hard work and a lot of grinding.

– But... I had a great coach at BP (IF Brommapojkarna), Andreas Engelmark, who helped me a lot in my younger years. And now... what I feel for this coach (Postecoglou) at Tottenham, it's something new, something completely different. It's something I've never had before, truly. The mentality, the training sessions, the playing style... If my dream was to play football in a certain way, it would be like this. If I were a coach, I would surely set up a team in a similar way and try to win matches, never thinking about what happens if we lose.

– I am very impressed by him, very lucky to learn from such a man.


I bet Dejan isn't the only one who absolutely adores him.
I know it can't feel like this forever, but the sincerity and affection the team has right now is exactly what I want my football club to be, and I can't thank Ange enough for it.
 

RuskyM

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Looking at those quotes from Kulu i can see Ange having his own crop of "disciples" similar to Pep who when they hang up their boots go in to management using Ange's principles and vision of the game.

he's got that sort of gravitas
It's interesting because disciples of say, Ferguson haven't done that well, but I think that's because the carrot and stick/culture of fear approach doesn't work when you're not already seen and revered as the main guy. When it's Bielsa or Cruyff or Guardiola you've got more than just your reputation to fall back on - you've got something that the collective can grasp and believe in.

brb I'm adding this to my manifesto.
 

GetKaned

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I am not sure how this comes across and apologies if its offensive. But I really love that our gaffer speaks good English. It doesn't feel laborious to hear like the broken English era we had. There is a certain feel of comfort when listening to him, adding to his already great way of talking to the press.
 

RuskyM

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I am not sure how this comes across and apologies if its offensive. But I really love that our gaffer speaks good English. It doesn't feel laborious to hear like the broken English era we had. There is a certain feel of comfort when listening to him, adding to his already great way of talking to the press.
I think it's understandable - you can still have affinities with managers without sharing a language (Poch, BMJ, what Villa have with Emery atm) but it saves the debate we used to have on "well Antonio was actually saying this".
 

PCozzie

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I am not sure how this comes across and apologies if its offensive. But I really love that our gaffer speaks good English. It doesn't feel laborious to hear like the broken English era we had. There is a certain feel of comfort when listening to him, adding to his already great way of talking to the press.
I think more than that he's just a really interesting bloke to listen to. Every presser or interview there's something to think about on a wider level than football. It does help that he speaks the same language as (most) of us, of course it makes it easier to comprehend, but I think if he were talking in broken English and came from Paraguay he'd still be engaging.
 

thebenjamin

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I think one of the other things that Ange gets tired of hearing about: "Top-4"

My impression is he never thinks about top-4. He has never set a goal of top-4. If you listen to him - his goal is to win the whole thing - whether that is FA Cup or the League. Ange does not set goals below the top.

100% reckon he believes we can win the title this season.
 

easley91

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100% reckon he believes we can win the title this season.
As it stands if we can keep in touch come the end of this month and when Son, Sarr and Bissouma return I don't see why we can't have a go. We should have VDV, Maddison, Romero and possibly Solomon all back by the beginning of February, with hopefully one or two signings at least.

Although I fully expect City to just click and go on a run, currently it's as open as it has been for quite awhile.
 

IfiHadTheWings

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It's interesting because disciples of say, Ferguson haven't done that well, but I think that's because the carrot and stick/culture of fear approach doesn't work when you're not already seen and revered as the main guy. When it's Bielsa or Cruyff or Guardiola you've got more than just your reputation to fall back on - you've got something that the collective can grasp and believe in.

brb I'm adding this to my manifesto.
I think that is because Ferguson wasn't so much about footballing philosophy but more so about how he built teams and man managed them.

Pep/Bielsa/Ange have a tangible unwavering belief in their systems which like you say is infectious and it is clear a lot of thought goes in to the game tactically which are teachable skills.
 

alfie103

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I love how on the presser he said *OUR* club. I wanna call him daddy :cautious:

It seems to me there might be people on here who actually would like to call him that. I am sorry but it is really fucking weird to hear grown adults talk like that.
 

Styopa

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I love how on the presser he said *OUR* club. I wanna call him daddy :cautious:

Yeah makes a change from “this” club, or “Tottenham” or the “owners”, or the “players” etc. Even Redknapp had a habit of acting like he was above the club rather than one of us. Obviously Mourinho and Conte never considered themselves Tottenham men - and Mourinho has said as much after he left.

It’s another reason why fans are warming to Ange. It feels like he “gets” the club.
 

Styopa

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It seems to me there might be people on here who actually would like to call him that. I am sorry but it is really fucking weird to hear grown adults talk like that.

I’m pretty sure no one wants to call him “daddy”. But I would find it very strange too!
 

Styopa

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I think that is because Ferguson wasn't so much about footballing philosophy but more so about how he built teams and man managed them.

Pep/Bielsa/Ange have a tangible unwavering belief in their systems which like you say is infectious and it is clear a lot of thought goes in to the game tactically which are teachable skills.

It would be interesting to see if a manager like Ferguson would make it in the modern game. Maybe Ferguson would have through sheer force of his personality. But most of the Premier League managers now have a distinct footballing philosophy from Klopp to Pep to Ange to Arteta to Poch, De Zerbi etc. There are not many I can think of who are in the mould of Ferguson or even Redknapp.
 

djhotspur

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The situation now is that the club hierachy have finally admitted (having led us to beleive for years that once we get a new bigger stadium we can compete financially with the big boys) that we have to operate differently from the big boys (one reason why Levy also admitted that appointing win now managers was perhaps a wrong thing to do).

So one way we can operate differenly (ie within our means) is to blood players from the academy earlier than we do. If we hit the jackpot that's great, if not, at least we know and we can discard and move on. In addition, if younger players and their advisers can see that at least if you join Tottenham you will get a real chance to prove yourself, that might just sway some youngsters to come to us.

The ITK we have been getting recently is that some academy players are a bit miffed at not being given an opportunity in the first team, and once we have a fully fit squad again, I don't see the likes of Dorrington, Donely and maybe even Phillips (if we sign a CH) even getting on the bench much at all.

We are likely going to be paying 25 - 30M for a CH, but none of us know if Phillips (I realsie he is not from our academy) or Dorrington can perform well at this level becuase we haven't even tried them. When we went 5-1 up at Burnley I was screaming for Phillips (who was on the bench) to be given 20+ minutes, there was no great risk to the three points, but it didn't happen.

I accept we want to win every game we play, and blooding youngsters is a risk, but buying a Romainian centre half from Italy is also a risk (not suggesting we shouldn't do it) becuase he has never lived in the UK or played in the Prem.
I get that but surely you need to blood all those players on 1-2 loans first. I get donley has ripped up u21s league but send him out on loan for the rest of the season and see how does in league 1 like Devine is.
it’s catch 22 though as if you play acadamy players over unwanted senior players you’ll crash the price of senior players if they aren’t playing.
Ange is also seeing these players dsy in day out in training, and donley is up against 3 players in the 10 position so can see if he is good enough right now for the prem.
 
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