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GutBucket

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Sir Alex was changing his assistants from time to time to be updated to new tactics and other modern aspects of football, Poch is too loyal to Jesus Perez. Pressing the GK and FBs still works but we have more GKs that are comfortable on the ball and WBs are more than pace merchants, plus full backs and inverted FBs/WBs are becoming popular again. Their team lacks balance so it's a difficult job for anyone but I don't think that Poch is that good anymore.
 

max cady

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I think the writing is on the wall for Poch, another bad defeat and he'll be gone if not before. As another poster has alluded to he's failed to grow as a manager. I think the PSG job has made him feel he's bigger than he actually is. He should have known from his days at Spurs that Chelsea were a poison chalice. The Chelsea job was put on a plate for him and with the millions he was offered I would have taken the job also but he should have been aware of what was expected and the players have let him down massively.
 

HildoSpur

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I think the writing is on the wall for Poch, another bad defeat and he'll be gone if not before. As another poster has alluded to he's failed to grow as a manager. I think the PSG job has made him feel he's bigger than he actually is. He should have known from his days at Spurs that Chelsea were a poison chalice. The Chelsea job was put on a plate for him and with the millions he was offered I would have taken the job also but he should have been aware of what was expected and the players have let him down massively.
They literally can't afford to sack him though. Poch is going nowhere.
 

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Sir Alex was changing his assistants from time to time to be updated to new tactics and other modern aspects of football, Poch is too loyal to Jesus Perez. Pressing the GK and FBs still works but we have more GKs that are comfortable on the ball and WBs are more than pace merchants, plus full backs and inverted FBs/WBs are becoming popular again. Their team lacks balance so it's a difficult job for anyone but I don't think that Poch is that good anymore.
Plus he doesn't look to add to that close unit. I think that's a bad sign in any manager.

He's an interesting one because the pressure is so high at Chelsea. He could end up a West Ham manager and doing well there.
 

Trix

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They'll go Mourinho again eventually and it'll be hilarious.
You think he'd go to a club with no money to spend, and very little room to manoeuvre what squad he has?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the players there are anywhere near as bad as they look right now, but it's very unbalanced for sure. He will also want a huge wage and contract.
 

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If/when they give Poch the boot they're going to struggle massively to get anyone half decent to take the job imo. That's how much of a pig's ear Boehly has made of everything. I hope they get battered by FFP too, and have to make do with what they've got for a long time, even losing a few of the better players.
 

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I can't believe we lost to his absolute mess of a team.

Yeah, it was largely to down to injuries and indiscipline, but still. Annoying.

Hope we absolutely muller them at the Bridge and we see him crying
 

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I can't believe we lost to his absolute mess of a team.

Yeah, it was largely to down to injuries and indiscipline, but still. Annoying.

Hope we absolutely muller them at the Bridge and we see him crying
Yep, fine margins, if that Sonny goal hadn't been a millimetre offside and we went 2-0 up I think we would have gone on to batter them fs, they couldn't get near us.
 

mattstev2000

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Find the attitude towards the best manager we've had in the modern era really weird from some of our fans.

Sounds like he waited for us to call and when we didn't he took the only job available at the kind of level he's earned and also enabling him to stay in London. The idea it was some great betrayal is nonsense.

As for his performance at Chelsea, that club is a basket case at the moment, don't think anyone would have excelled there with their current leadership.

Hope he gets out with a massive pay off, they continue to suck even worse than they do at the moment and we see him back at the club in some capacity in the future.
 

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Yep, fine margins, if that Sonny goal hadn't been a millimetre offside and we went 2-0 up I think we would have gone on to batter them fs, they couldn't get near us.

:cry: Not sure I remember celebrating a goal as much as that one; felt like we had hit another level before it all came crashing down.
 

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I think the writing is on the wall for Poch, another bad defeat and he'll be gone if not before. As another poster has alluded to he's failed to grow as a manager. I think the PSG job has made him feel he's bigger than he actually is. He should have known from his days at Spurs that Chelsea were a poison chalice. The Chelsea job was put on a plate for him and with the millions he was offered I would have taken the job also but he should have been aware of what was expected and the players have let him down massively.
You would have taken the Chelsea job? Judas!!!
 

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Meercat

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Maybe I’m weird, but I tend to think Poch got incredibly lucky with us… in the CL quarters vs City there’s a goal that would have knocked us out in the last seconds (90+5) cancelled out because it’s adjudged to have had the slightest touch turning it into a backpass and our equalizer on the night from Llorente touched a mix of arm and body and VAR could easily have overturned… so that was nothing short of a miracle we got through, even before that insane night in Amsterdam… if we’d gone out in the quarters I wonder what perception of Poch would have been - more of a nearly man?I tend to think his reputation as a world class manger isn’t deserved, personally, despite the joy those nights gave; but it’s so hard to judge. What with the madness of that Leicester title and the Chelsea record breaking run in under Conte… it feels like a better manager would have done more (I mean a true world class one) I tend to think he’s just a very good manager… but it’s all down o so many tiny factors falling into place. I mean, hell, without Ryan Mason he wouldn’t have seen out season 1…
 

DJS

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The Shed End - this is all one poster and they don't seem keen, a couple of familiar points here.


Today sealed it for me - Poch out.
The club is absolutely broken. Sadly I don't think changing the manager will have much effect as every single department of this club, top to bottom, side to side, is misfiring. I'd like to hear a little more from the owners or directors at this time, but we know that won't happen and the manager normally takes the fall. However, there are good reasons for Poch to go:
- We have no identity. Nothing, no patterns, nothing to build on
- Even our recent wins, papering over cracks, weren't great. Luton (A), Palace (H), Fulham (H) - all last 10 min scrambles/chaos
- Makes poor decisions, repeatedly. Players out of position, continues to select underperforming players, poor timing for subs. Has ZERO plan B
- Worse discipline in the league
- Repeat the same mistakes time and time again. How many games have we conceded goals down the inside left - just look back to Brentford or Villa at home at the start, to Liverpool and Wolves today. Teams still exploit that area
- Maybe down to medical/sports science, but awful injury management
- Some of the most inept performances I have seen from a Chelsea team, all this season. Wolves (H and A), United (A), Newcastle (A), Boro (A), Liverpool (A)
- No bounce back or reaction after said inept performances. Nothing changes
- We may lack quality, but we are outworked, outfought, outthought, and over powered time and time again. It really is men vs. boys - atleast be hard to play against
- A manager that just sits in the dugout, looks somewhat resigned
- No real development of young players - they are regressing
Changing the manager only creates more instability, but what have we to lose at this point. We'll struggle to get a top coach, but were De Zebri or Postecoglu considered top before their current respective roles?
I thought Poch would be the needed breath of fresh air this club was calling out for. And again, the issues go much deeper, but we're 30+ games into Poch's tenure and we have regressed. He has to go - give a new manager the rest of another write off season and a full summer.
The no plan B and making subs too late were complaints we had during his time here, even when we were doing really well.

Still have a nasty feeling they’ll nick the league cup though, they really shouldn’t but it’s Chelsea and they’ll do it just to spite us getting a trophy with Poch… :cautious:
 

Thenewcat

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Maybe I’m weird, but I tend to think Poch got incredibly lucky with us… in the CL quarters vs City there’s a goal that would have knocked us out in the last seconds (90+5) cancelled out because it’s adjudged to have had the slightest touch turning it into a backpass and our equalizer on the night from Llorente touched a mix of arm and body and VAR could easily have overturned… so that was nothing short of a miracle we got through, even before that insane night in Amsterdam… if we’d gone out in the quarters I wonder what perception of Poch would have been - more of a nearly man?I tend to think his reputation as a world class manger isn’t deserved, personally, despite the joy those nights gave; but it’s so hard to judge. What with the madness of that Leicester title and the Chelsea record breaking run in under Conte… it feels like a better manager would have done more (I mean a true world class one) I tend to think he’s just a very good manager… but it’s all down o so many tiny factors falling into place. I mean, hell, without Ryan Mason he wouldn’t have seen out season 1…
I don’t think you can luckily deliver consistent league results better than anything we’ve seen in the league since the 60s. Of course we had luck in the CL run (although the offside goal was not a ‘slight touch’ it was never going to Aguero without it, and the Llorente goal would have stood for basically all of football history) but equally we had no luck at all in 2016/17. Best attack, best defence, but not enough depth (not his fault) and Chelsea had incredible injury luck and no Europe. He was an excellent manager for us. Whether that was his peak or he’s just chosen basket cases as his next two clubs is difficult to say
 

sidford

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From athletics article this morning about his time at Chelsea so far. This bit did make me laugh, seems like he hasn't changed

"Then there is the in-game management.

Pochettino’s cause to win over the fans is not helped by substitutions often coming too late to change the momentum of games. Chelsea have come from behind to win a match on just three occasions in all competitions this season — against AFC Wimbledon of League Two in the Carabao Cup, struggling Burnley and Tottenham after they had two men sent off."
 
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