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‘I’ve got no idea’: Ange bites back at VAR drama as his first north London derby ends in thriller

Misfit

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The old hand to ball/ ball to hand distinction worked well enough. Not perfect but it never can be, as VAR and hyper-detailed laws so bluntly illustrates.
 

Locotoro

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The old hand to ball/ ball to hand distinction worked well enough. Not perfect but it never can be, as VAR and hyper-detailed laws so bluntly illustrates.
I don't think it worked as well as you may remember.
Clear rules, zero subjectivity, and microphones on the ref so we all know what's going on.
At the moment it all seems so secretive and that's where people have a problem with decisions - because they are not explained in real time
 

UncleBuck

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Dermot Gallagher now saying that Romero was 'lucky' not to be sent off for the handball because Bissouma was on the goal line. I mean, what absolute bollocks. The ball hit him from about 3 feet away after a deflection FFS! Not like he dived to save a shot into an empty net! Gallagher is a complete insufferable bellend.
Completely agree, he also said the Luton penalty was fair as the defenders arm was raised ‘too high’. The ball defected off the defenders boot onto his arm, how on earth was the defender meant to get his arm out of the way for a ricochet from 2ft away?
There’s just a total lack of common sense and has been since VAR came into the game, it’s almost like ref’s have been told to not actually think for themselves and if VAR tells them to look at something they feel obliged to change the on field decision.
How often have we seen a ref stick with his original on field decision after being told to go and ‘have a look’?
I don’t think I can ever recall a ref sticking to their original decision which is shocking!
 

Dazzazzad

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Just go back to how it was. Hand to ball. The end.
This is what they should focus on. Maybe also, for shots on target that strike an arm - give a punishment that is befitting. Maybe it's a free kick outside the box. Indirect free kick inside - something other than 3/4 of a goal which a penalty is.

If the punishment was lessened it would lower the temperature of a "wrong" call.
 

UncleBuck

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This is what they should focus on. Maybe also, for shots on target that strike an arm - give a punishment that is befitting. Maybe it's a free kick outside the box. Indirect free kick inside - something other than 3/4 of a goal which a penalty is.

If the punishment was lessened it would lower the temperature of a "wrong" call.
Whatever happened to the indirect free kick? Haven’t seen one of them awarded in years and would certainly help refs out!
 

Misfit

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I don't think it worked as well as you may remember.
Clear rules, zero subjectivity, and microphones on the ref so we all know what's going on.
At the moment it all seems so secretive and that's where people have a problem with decisions - because they are not explained in real time
There's been next to no difference in terms of the number of terrible calls and inconsistent decisons though. We just get more angles and discussions about events as we did before, only without the excuse of "didn't see it in real time" and with added delays etc.

It's simply ghastly. Goaline tech is all that was needed IMO.
 
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