A contrast in hindsight

[NickHSpurs]

January 2008, Defoe leaves for Portsmouth after making every possible effort to fight and gain a first team place at Tottenham Hotspur.

Throughout his bench warming period JD always remained positive saying he enjoyed playing for the club despite is lack of games. At a time when we maybe didn't deserve his loyalty he stuck at it and kept his head down.

Robbie Keane and Dimitar Berbatov have been regular members of our side and for a long period of time have been first choice. The first opportunity they get to leave the Club, especially in Keane's case, they jump ship.

Three completely different situations yet the player who had more right to engineer his own move remained loyal.

My point is we don't want people like Robbie Keane and Dimitar Berbatov at our club if that is their attitude.

Regardless if United/Liverpool cough up the dough, both players have burnt their bridges with the fans. The contrast will be clear, on Defoe's return to the Lane you will hear a chorus of "Jermain Defoe, is a yido" yet in the case of the two traitors, will be a deafening sound of boo's!

 

[RussellYid]

Keane: "You're only going as far as Manchester? It's OK, I'll walk the rest of the way."

 

[General Levy]

January 2008, Defoe leaves for Portsmouth after making every possible effort to fight and gain a first team place at Tottenham Hotspur.

Throughout his bench warming period JD always remained positive saying he enjoyed playing for the club despite is lack of games. At a time when we maybe didn't deserve his loyalty he stuck at it and kept his head down.

Robbie Keane and Dimitar Berbatov have been regular members of our side and for a long period of time have been first choice. The first opportunity they get to leave the Club, especially in Keane's case, they jump ship.

Three completely different situations yet the player who had more right to engineer his own move remained loyal.

My point is we don't want people like Robbie Keane and Dimitar Berbatov at our club if that is their attitude.

Regardless if United/Liverpool cough up the dough, both players have burnt their bridges with the fans. The contrast will be clear, on Defoe's return to the Lane you will hear a chorus of "Jermain Defoe, is a yido" yet in the case of the two traitors, will be a deafening sound of boo's!

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Bent and Defoe could have been agreat partnership

 

[joey55]

Why does Defoe get booed at Charlton and West Ham? Let's be real. The only player who we know genuinley turned down a big move to stay with us (in the Prem era), was Anderton and things didn't exactly work out well for him in the end. Teddy, Scumbell and Carrick made moves, Anderton stayed loyal. What did he get for it - released and virtually forgotten by the football world, whilst the others all have Prem Champions medals.

 

[elvis7754]

good post mate

I take your point completely and yet also agree with poster on front page who suggests that it's hard to blame either Keane and Berba...

x

 

[Wsussexspur]

Why does Defoe get booed at Charlton and West Ham?

He gets booed at Charlton for the way he left them to join West Ham was a kind of simlar situation to the whole Bostock transfer we had and Charlton fans have never forgave him I guess as feel they lost out on lot of money!

He get booed at West Ham cause he handed in a transfer request a couple of days after they got relegated!

 

[joey55]

He gets booed at Charlton for the way he left them to join West Ham was a kind of simlar situation to the whole Bostock transfer we had and Charlton fans have never forgave him I guess as feel they lost out on lot of money!

He get booed at West Ham cause he handed in a transfer request a couple of days after they got relegated!

It was a rhetorical question. The point being there is little loyalty in football, especially when a bigger club comes in for a player and the opportunity to play at a higher level. The comparison between Keane/Berba and Defoe is unfair as Defoe never recieved an offer from a CL club. Had he done so, then in reallity, he'd have probably taken it, as would most players. As in fact would most SC posters. If people here got offered a better job on more money, I bet most would take it. I've worked with loads of people who have been really happy in their jobs, but have been head hunted by other firms and thus left. In fact I've never come across a single person who has turned down such an offer, other than for logisitical reasons.

 

[Scottymotogp]

jermain must be laughing his b*llocks off at pompey now, looking at them two leaving, oh the irony hey.

And I dont blame him either to be honest.

jermain defoe, he's yiddo.

 

[Supernova.M]

I don't blame Berbatov. He stuck around when he could have left and never came out and said he loved the club and wanted to retire here.

Robbie Keane on the other hand...

 

[batigol]

Why does Defoe get booed at Charlton and West Ham? Let's be real. The only player who we know genuinley turned down a big move to stay with us (in the Prem era), was Anderton and things didn't exactly work out well for him in the end. Teddy, Scumbell and Carrick made moves, Anderton stayed loyal. What did he get for it - released and virtually forgotten by the football world, whilst the others all have Prem Champions medals.

Agreed totally. I was aghast when he did not even get a testimonial for his loyal service. Bar his injuries, he was one of the best we had during the dark era. A player who stuck with us through thick and thin. It just isn't right when a player like Anderton is forgotten while players like Teddy gets added to Hall of Fame.

Players like Anderton, Le Tisser, Ryan Giggs, and Paul Scholes are few and far between and while the other players get recognized for their loyalty at their respective clubs, majority of Spurs fans only remember Anderton as sicknote. It is sad that the only player who stayed loyal to us in recent times remains unrecognized while we spew vitriol at players like Berbs who never intended to stay for long. Keane is another story of course and he deserves whatever abuse he gets if he does leave.

 

[tRiKS]

Defoe is not a leading striker for a team that wants to pay pass and move football. Bent isn't but bent can play point defoe can't he's not very strong and deceptively slow.
If defoe were still at spurs Ramos would still sign a player to start ahead of him.

Portmouth's more direct stlye of counter attack is suited to defoe who's only job is shooting. Good luck to him, good luck to them.

Anyone saying we should have kept Defoe happy and now he could lead the line for spurs, doesn't know thier tactics very well.

 

[tRiKS]

It was a rhetorical question. The point being there is little loyalty in football, especially when a bigger club comes in for a player and the opportunity to play at a higher level. The comparison between Keane/Berba and Defoe is unfair as Defoe never recieved an offer from a CL club. Had he done so, then in reallity, he'd have probably taken it, as would most players. As in fact would most SC posters. If people here got offered a better job on more money, I bet most would take it. I've worked with loads of people who have been really happy in their jobs, but have been head hunted by other firms and thus left. In fact I've never come across a single person who has turned down such an offer, other than for logisitical reasons.

I can honestly say if i were a spurs player I'd stay at spurs for life regardless of the team offering me a contract or the amount of the contract. Even if spurs got relegated.

 

[joey55]

I can honestly say if i were a spurs player I'd stay at spurs for life regardless of the team offering me a contract or the amount of the contract. Even if spurs got relegated.

But you are a Spurs fan. If you were playing for Everton and Spurs were in the CL, would you not want to join us if you got the chance?

 

[tRiKS]

But you are a Spurs fan. If you were playing for Everton and Spurs were in the CL, would you not want to join us if you got the chance?

If i were playing for Everton in the CL and spurs were not I'd sign for Spurs. Basically Joey i'd play for spurs and never leave them.

.. unless they were about to go bankrupt and selling me got them the money to survive. I'd sign for madrid. run down my contract and rejoin spurs for free at the earliest possible moment.

a little known fact about me is i'm hot, I mean I make David Beckham look like the love child of Ian Dowie and Peter Beardsley. By the time i would retire from football I would have made near on a billion in adversstign and merchandising. I expect my beautiful singing voice would have been exploited too ... I'd buy spurs and lead them as owner and coach to great success. I'll die of a heart attack while celebrating Spur's 10th European cup final.
My ashes would be poured into the mould of the gaint statue they make of me thats will stand forever more outside WHL and on the plaque would be the words.

"David Craggs, He'll never leaves us again. COYS"

 

[joey55]

If i were playing for Everton in the CL and spurs were not I'd sign for Spurs. Basically Joey i'd play for spurs and never leave them.

.. unless they were about to go bankrupt and selling me got them the money to survive. I'd sign for madrid. run down my contract and rejoin spurs for free at the earliest possible moment.

I think most Spurs fans, or fans of any club would be the same as you in that respect. What irritates me is when our fans refuse to show any empathy with players. Keane is a Liverpool fan, who is 28 and this will almost certainly be his last chance to an established CL club, who he is a fan of. I'd make the move if it was Spurs instead of Liverpool, as would you and a large majority of Spurs fans, yet there seems to be a refusal to see it from this point of view by many posters.

 

[Mr-T]

If only jermain had signed that contract eh...

Still, the window aint shut yet.

 

[tRiKS]

I think most Spurs fans, or fans of any club would be the same as you in that respect. What irritates me is when our fans refuse to show any empathy with players. Keane is a Liverpool fan, who is 28 and this will almost certainly be his last chance to an established CL club, who he is a fan of. I'd make the move if it was Spurs instead of Liverpool, as would you and a large majority of Spurs fans, yet there seems to be a refusal to see it from this point of view by many posters.

I made similar comments on a S'ton fan site trying to reason Hoddles descision to leave them to manage us.
They took thier stupidity to extraordinary levels when they protested against getting hoddle back a few years later.

 

[Partizan]

I think most Spurs fans, or fans of any club would be the same as you in that respect. What irritates me is when our fans refuse to show any empathy with players. Keane is a Liverpool fan, who is 28 and this will almost certainly be his last chance to an established CL club, who he is a fan of. I'd make the move if it was Spurs instead of Liverpool, as would you and a large majority of Spurs fans, yet there seems to be a refusal to see it from this point of view by many posters.

are you surprised? He has been a fan favorite for long and these news came from out of nowhere. They are just bitter about it

I think deep down they understand the logic in his decision