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Ok. I'll keep this as brief as possible.
Basically I was thinking just now about our defence and how we largely seem to have a sweeper of sorts when the other defenders venture up the pitch. Then I got thinking about Lloris, and his role as sweeper keeper sometimes. And then I got to thinking about who instructs their actions...
And then I took it a step further.
So my question, which is probably multi-faceted is thus.
Let's crank it up a notch. How could you coach a world class player, such as Lionel Messi, to improve his game? Like, what can the attacking coaches at Barcelona actually tell him any more? Surely he's got to be one of the best, if not the best player the world has ever seen, period. So other than keeping him mentally on the case, and fit, how can you improve his play? Surely he is better than the coaches??
And let's filter that down...
So what happens when the players you have are better than the coaching staff you have?
For example, say one of our midfield coaches was Tim Sherwood. Used to play, obvs. Decent player. Say we still had Luka Modric. What on earth would Sherwood be able to coach him on?
Yes, they could work on control, touch, etc. But surely the, "right, in this situation, you really need to be doing this, here when the ball's here, don't do this etc etc." kinda stuff is a bit moot? As Modric is a far better player than Sherwood ever was.
This isn't a diss at Sherwood, as he was obviously doing decent work behind the scenes before he took over as manager, but it sprung to mind as being relatable.
So going back to the Messi example, like, other than just kinda telling him to keep doing what he's doing, keeping him good mentally, and generally keeping him fit and sharp, what the fuck can you tell the bloke?
Is anyone really gonna try to coach him on dribbling for example?!
Hope this question makes some kind of sense.
I guess in a nutshell, surely some coaches aren't/weren't as good as the players they're now coaching, so why should the players listen to coaches that weren't as good as they are. (Other than they're paid to, obviously. And also disregarding the coaching that got them to a good level in the first place.) Basically what happens when the players all round game becomes far superior to the coach's?
Like, who's telling Bale and Ronaldo how to improve etc? Sure, tell them what to do in terms of the formation and system etc, but beyond that, what is there?!
Unless they literally just become motivators???
I've probably missed something really obvious, or maybe I am overthinking it, but it's something I thought may prove a decent discussion.
If not, I'll just post up a gif or some fresh meme or something...
Basically I was thinking just now about our defence and how we largely seem to have a sweeper of sorts when the other defenders venture up the pitch. Then I got thinking about Lloris, and his role as sweeper keeper sometimes. And then I got to thinking about who instructs their actions...
And then I took it a step further.
So my question, which is probably multi-faceted is thus.
Let's crank it up a notch. How could you coach a world class player, such as Lionel Messi, to improve his game? Like, what can the attacking coaches at Barcelona actually tell him any more? Surely he's got to be one of the best, if not the best player the world has ever seen, period. So other than keeping him mentally on the case, and fit, how can you improve his play? Surely he is better than the coaches??
And let's filter that down...
So what happens when the players you have are better than the coaching staff you have?
For example, say one of our midfield coaches was Tim Sherwood. Used to play, obvs. Decent player. Say we still had Luka Modric. What on earth would Sherwood be able to coach him on?
Yes, they could work on control, touch, etc. But surely the, "right, in this situation, you really need to be doing this, here when the ball's here, don't do this etc etc." kinda stuff is a bit moot? As Modric is a far better player than Sherwood ever was.
This isn't a diss at Sherwood, as he was obviously doing decent work behind the scenes before he took over as manager, but it sprung to mind as being relatable.
So going back to the Messi example, like, other than just kinda telling him to keep doing what he's doing, keeping him good mentally, and generally keeping him fit and sharp, what the fuck can you tell the bloke?
Is anyone really gonna try to coach him on dribbling for example?!
Hope this question makes some kind of sense.
I guess in a nutshell, surely some coaches aren't/weren't as good as the players they're now coaching, so why should the players listen to coaches that weren't as good as they are. (Other than they're paid to, obviously. And also disregarding the coaching that got them to a good level in the first place.) Basically what happens when the players all round game becomes far superior to the coach's?
Like, who's telling Bale and Ronaldo how to improve etc? Sure, tell them what to do in terms of the formation and system etc, but beyond that, what is there?!
Unless they literally just become motivators???
I've probably missed something really obvious, or maybe I am overthinking it, but it's something I thought may prove a decent discussion.
If not, I'll just post up a gif or some fresh meme or something...
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