Adebayor Will Fire Us To Champions League

[ackie]

Most of us are disappointing in Ade and most of us wants him to do well and some are confident he will do it this Sunday.
I hope so too. I hope to see Dempsey and Defoe back though...at least on the bench.

 

[Lufti]

Where did I say that I hate Defoe? I don't assume what your views are so don't assume mine. I will support any player that plays for this club and have done for 50 years now. That doesn't mean that I think that all of our players have exactly the same playing value to the club, everyone has different skills, albeit some are similar. I just happen to think that a non scoring Ade is better in the team than a non scoring Defoe.

And as for not pumping the ball up to Defoe, you must be kidding. I seem to recall differently to you i'm afraid, I lost count of the number of times that the ball has been pumped up to Defoe. That's not to say that he doesn't try to get the ball, he's just too short to out jump a central defender. It's not his fault and I don't blame him for it, it's the fault of the players who pump it! But in such circumstances Ade ismore suited.

I mean we barely pump the ball up to Adebayor - everyone said when Defoe was playing that they wanted Adebayor to play, but since he's come in he's barely done any aerial work, so I don't see what Adebayor brings to the table that Defoe doesn't. Besides, there is rarely a non-scoring Defoe anyway, he very rarely goes through a dry patch when he is regularly starting. Said at the time that it was a mistake to resign Adebayor and nothing has changed my mind. He'll probably be incredible against Arsenal but then again, Bentley probably would be too but I don't see anyone calling for him to be back in the team!

Let's get rid of Ade in the summer

 

[talkshowhost86]

I mean we barely pump the ball up to Adebayor - everyone said when Defoe was playing that they wanted Adebayor to play, but since he's come in he's barely done any aerial work, so I don't see what Adebayor brings to the table that Defoe doesn't. Besides, there is rarely a non-scoring Defoe anyway, he very rarely goes through a dry patch when he is regularly starting. Said at the time that it was a mistake to resign Adebayor and nothing has changed my mind. He'll probably be incredible against Arsenal but then again, Bentley probably would be too but I don't see anyone calling for him to be back in the team!

Let's get rid of Ade in the summer

Adebayor takes up much better positions than Defoe and as a result creates space for the three players in behind him. And even if he isn't winning things in the air, he is challenging more than Defoe does which in itself creates a certain degree of havoc (see Bale's first goal against Wet Sham).

And as for Defoe rarely going through a dry patch....really? He's one of the patchiest strikers there is, and if he's not scoring he very rarely offers anything else.

Don't get me wrong I don't think Adebayor is playing well enough at the moment and if he doesn't buck his ideas up I'd have him out the door in the SUmmer as well.

But Adebayor in this form is better than Defoe in mediocre form so unless JD really hits a hot streak I'd stick with Ade for now.

 

[Damian99]

I think its safe to say that neither of them are really good enough, for where we are heading.

 

[Lufti]

Adebayor takes up much better positions than Defoe and as a result creates space for the three players in behind him. And even if he isn't winning things in the air, he is challenging more than Defoe does which in itself creates a certain degree of havoc (see Bale's first goal against Wet Sham).

And as for Defoe rarely going through a dry patch....really? He's one of the patchiest strikers there is, and if he's not scoring he very rarely offers anything else.

Don't get me wrong I don't think Adebayor is playing well enough at the moment and if he doesn't buck his ideas up I'd have him out the door in the SUmmer as well.

But Adebayor in this form is better than Defoe in mediocre form so unless JD really hits a hot streak I'd stick with Ade for now.

Well, I respect your opinion but I still think Defoe has something to offer. Maybe he's not best suited to play up front alone but he still offers a lot and I still believe he's one of the most instinctive strikers and best finishers in the league!

 

[talkshowhost86]

Well, I respect your opinion but I still think Defoe has something to offer. Maybe he's not best suited to play up front alone but he still offers a lot and I still believe he's one of the most instinctive strikers and best finishers in the league!

I'm not saying he doesn't have anything to offer and although I'm often critical of his limitations, he was very good earlier in the season when we were floundering a bit.

As you say though he's simply not a target man for a team playing one up front and that is the formation that AVB seems to want to play.

Defoe is at his best in a 4-4-2 and unfortunately that style is becoming a bit outmoded. I think he's a player who needs the team built around him and we have much better players to do that for now.

Having said all that he's a great option off the bench, and if Ade really starts to give up trying then he's a good man to have around.

 

[Roynie]

I mean we barely pump the ball up to Adebayor - everyone said when Defoe was playing that they wanted Adebayor to play, but since he's come in he's barely done any aerial work, so I don't see what Adebayor brings to the table that Defoe doesn't. Besides, there is rarely a non-scoring Defoe anyway, he very rarely goes through a dry patch when he is regularly starting. Said at the time that it was a mistake to resign Adebayor and nothing has changed my mind. He'll probably be incredible against Arsenal but then again, Bentley probably would be too but I don't see anyone calling for him to be back in the team!

Let's get rid of Ade in the summer

Frankly neither are really doing the job. I agree that, with the benefit of hindsight Ade should not have been signed last summer. But I also think that Defoe, when he is not in a scoring streak, offers very little. He is not a lone striker, as TSH said he works best in a 442 system, which we don't seem to use that often. Now that may be something to do with only having 2 real strikers (I don't count Dempsey as a striker although he scored well in January). I really hope that we get better strikers in the summer.

 

[Misfit]

Ade starts above Defoe when fit. I think most of us will agree with that. However, he's one of the highest paid members of the squad and has a phat signing on bonus to go along with that. We bet the farm on him financially. He's a veteran, he's been around the block. There's simply no excuses. I'll live with his piss poor finishing, which a 100K a week player should be embarrassed about, but only if he does what he did last season.

Frankly he has to start playing better. A lot better, not just a good enough game here and there. This is not me saying he's playing like shit. he isn't. He has responsibilities to us though. Fuck all the charities, the president of Togo, whoever. When they start paying him 100K a week to play for us, he can get away with just plodding around by his standards.

I'm not having a go at him. I'm judging him by the standards he wants. A 28 yr old, 100K a week player. He should be our talisman and probably a bit more (although I'll not hold that against him. That's DL's fault for signing off on the 100K pw). So yeah, sorry Ade but you can give more. You did so last season so you'll get crap for not repeating that I'm afriad and there's nothing unfair about it.

 

[only1waddle]

Ade starts above Defoe when fit. I think most of us will agree with that. However, he's one of the highest paid members of the squad and has a phat signing on bonus to go along with that. We bet the farm on him financially. He's a veteran, he's been around the block. There's simply no excuses. I'll live with his piss poor finishing, which a 100K a week player should be embarrassed about, but only if he does what he did last season.

Frankly he has to start playing better. A lot better, not just a good enough game here and there. This is not me saying he's playing like shit. he isn't. He has responsibilities to us though. Fuck all the charities, the president of Togo, whoever. When they start paying him 100K a week to play for us, he can get away with just plodding around by his standards.

I'm not having a go at him. I'm judging him by the standards he wants. A 28 yr old, 100K a week player. He should be our talisman and probably a bit more (although I'll not hold that against him. That's DL's fault for signing off on the 100K pw). So yeah, sorry Ade but you can give more. You did so last season so you'll get crap for not repeating that I'm afriad and there's nothing unfair about it.

Agreed, well put Misfit, there are people in regular jobs with far more on their plate on a day to day basis on far less money.
Regards to Ade's judgement of himself you are spot on, simple's, don't moan when you are on the bench and then not produce when you are first choice, he should have taken a leaf out of VDV's book, he gave a shit, time to man up and help us get 4th regardless of the future, you are paid more than a handsome wage good sir

On a side note, do our lot have the worst haircuts per average wage of any EPL team, i am going with yes....

 

[Misfit]

Yes. Terrible barnets aplenty at the Lane. Holtby seems to be a brylcreemer along with Scotty. Verts is firmly in the side parting clique as well. We're missing a cow-lick so far but Gareth seems to be working on one.

 

[only1waddle]

Yes. Terrible barnets aplenty at the Lane. Holtby seems to be a brylcreemer along with Scotty. Verts is firmly in the side parting clique as well. We're missing a cow-lick so far but Gareth seems to be working on one.

I simply can't get over Walkers, what is he paid 40k a week? and he still has the same barnet as a 4th grader, scandalous..
I quite like Scotty and Holtby, very old skool, trustworthy give it all hairstyles, Stanley Matthewesque..

 

[seanwhite1961]

AFAIK Ade isn't on 100k a week, he isn't above the 70k ceiling. He wanted to ensure he didn't lose out on 175k a week from City and he got it, from City. If he's got anything extra from Spurs, it will be based on his £5m fee that should have been around £15m. Based on a striker scoring not too far from the 17 goals he had last season, rather than the 3 so far.

What did Gary Lineker do here when not scoring goals? Making lots of runs that weren't appreciated. To many eyes, contributing nothing when not scoring.

What does Defoe guarantee you? If not goals, shots on target. A hunger to score goals.

 

[Misfit]

Gary Lineker not scoring goals? Simply didn't happen.

We have put a lot of eggs into Ade's basket. As I said, it's not that he's even playing horribly. Defoe can't do what he does yet is given more leeway because this season especially he's trying his little heart out. His glaring faults are still pointed out unashamedly.

Same applies to Ade, especially when he has all the inate ability and when bothered is almost impossible to defend. Holding the ball up, bringing others into the game, running into the channels. He can do all these things brilliantly and they don't require him to throw out a noodley appendage to roll the ball gently goalwards.

Time to start doing it with some gusto, Ade, because you'll get all the love you need if you do and we'll tear most teams to shreds in the process. Imgaine the space GB could have in the middle then. /jizzface

 

[Misfit]

I simply can't get over Walkers, what is he paid 40k a week? and he still has the same barnet as a 4th grader, scandalous..
I quite like Scotty and Holtby, very old skool, trustworthy give it all hairstyles, Stanley Matthewesque..

 

[Anto18]

he done well last year, got his his contract and now hes shit. Arsenal and city fans all said it would happen and it did. he has the ability but his attitude stinks. Hopefully next season we will sign at least 2 top strikers.

 

[only1waddle]

Gary Lineker not scoring goals? Simply didn't happen.

We have put a lot of eggs into Ade's basket. As I said, it's not that he's even playing horribly. Defoe can't do what he does yet is given more leeway because this season especially he's trying his little heart out. His glaring faults are still pointed out unashamedly.

Same applies to Ade, especially when he has all the inate ability and when bothered is almost impossible to defend. Holding the ball up, bringing others into the game, running into the channels. He can do all these things brilliantly and they don't require him to throw out a noodley appendage to roll the ball gently goalwards.

Time to start doing it with some gusto, Ade, because you'll get all the love you need if you do and we'll tear most teams to shreds in the process. Imgaine the space GB could have in the middle then. /jizzface

Agreed, people slated Fletcher being the smaller name and from 'Wolves' but i bet my bottom dollar he would work his nuts off under AVB and not throw some mid season strop..

 

[NEVILLEB]

His shooting accuracy is really poor. You've also got to question his will to win.

I have defended him for a long time but he really does need to show some class now.

 

[Mr Pink]

Well if he doesn't look hungry this Sunday he never will. I expect the effort will be there in abundance this Sunday though, lets hope it brings a good performance to.

 

[chinaman]

Will he do it on Sunday? Hope he does it with a hattrick.

 

[pablo73]

I agree with those saying that Adebayor is going to have fire in his belly on Sunday and play his heart out. Hopefully he can rediscover his goalscoring touch. The question is do we really want a player, and one of our highest earners at that, to just do that when he fancies it or when he has a very personal motivation? I for one don't and hope we ship him out this summer - he should have fire in his belly every time he pulls on the shirt.