Adrien Rabiot

[DaSpurs]

That's the big question and I'm not sure tbh. He is definitely a passer that can/does press forward rather than the latter from what I have seen and I haven't seen enough to be able to comment on how regularly he presses forward but if you look at his heat map below, he sees a lot more of the ball in the oppos half. I have included Delph's for comparison and although you would expect Delph's to be a lot deeper than Rabiot's considering the teams they play for and the opponents played, I think it gives a bit of an idea.

He has good footwork and agility especially for a guy his size. Again whether it is good enough for the PL is debatable.

Rabiot heat map:
http://www.squawka.com/news/young-fearless-should-arsenal-target-this-rampaging-midfielder/28635

Delph Heat Map:
http://www.footballfancast.com/prem...ve-signings-to-make-spurs-a-pochettino-team/6

Good post, haha but we may want to look at one where Villa isn't playing City. Nonetheless, I think your point is made. Would still like to see more movement in and through the box as that's also something I think we're lacking a bit from deep, especially since Rabiot would have been on the front foot in that match, but it's still encouraging to see him at least getting forward and picking up the ball high up.

 

[spurs9]

Good post, haha but we may want to look at one where Villa isn't playing City. Nonetheless, I think your point is made. Would still like to see more movement in and through the box as that's also something I think we're lacking a bit from deep, especially since Rabiot would have been on the front foot in that match, but it's still encouraging to see him at least getting forward and picking up the ball high up.

Unfortunately they only usually publish heat maps for players like Delph when playing the top teams. Below is a link to his heat maps v Arsenal, Chelsea & Liverpool and they are more attacking than the City one but still the majority of his play is on the half way line or in his own half (as you would expect playing for Villa v those teams).

http://www.villatalk.com/index.php/topic/8761-transfer-speculation-summer-2013/page-450

 

[daveduvet]

If Poch wants him I'm up for him! I've reached an impasse with the transfer window - being a cynical ol' git I think it's just about creating & retaining an atmosphere of excitement in the midway point of the season. ITK is dry on the ground. I'd like Ings, but I don't think we'll sign anyone on a perm or loan this month: onions

 

[Metalhead]

If Poch wants him I'm up for him! I've reached an impasse with the transfer window - being a cynical ol' git I think it's just about creating & retaining an atmosphere of excitement in the midway point of the season. ITK is dry on the ground. I'd like Ings, but I don't think we'll sign anyone on a perm or loan this month: onions

Me neither. I think it's a case of, if there is a chance of a deal like we had with VDV then something will happen but apart from that, we'll have to content ourselves with seeing more players coming through from the academy.

 

[prawnsandwich]

Me neither. I think it's a case of, if there is a chance of a deal like we had with VDV then something will happen but apart from that, we'll have to content ourselves with seeing more players coming through from the academy.

I can go with that. Broken record but we gotta get some out before the academy guys can truly get a chance.
MoPo picks his team. Dembele or Onomah-no contest. No Dembele....then what?

 

[Metalhead]

I can go with that. Broken record but we gotta get some out before the academy guys can truly get a chance.
MoPo picks his team. Dembele or Onomah-no contest. No Dembele....then what?

I know. It's difficult but what is clear is that Levy is reluctant to spend any money before some of the unwanted players are sold. The trouble is that the unwanted players are not just going to go to any club that Spurs happen to agree a deal with. Hopefully Lennon will realise that he can still have a decent career if he goes elsewhere but some of the others are clearly happy to stick with their contracts.

 

[IGSpur]

Rabiot didn't play that game but the very highly rated Kingsley Coman (now at Juve) did.

Also, I was under the impression that it was just a loan and to cover Bentaleb whilst he is away, meaning that from your list, we only have Mason, Veljkovic, Winks and Onomah and adding Bentaleb mid Feb, which is inexperienced. I think with Stambouli starting to adapt and look good, it may mean that Rabiot is no longer required from a numbers point of view, however, he is very good in attack and can play long accurate passes, so his skill set may be the reason why we want to bring him in on loan.

Missed this post mate. Ye was unsure, I knew he played in the previous games. I know about Coman saw him play for France u21s against England, I recognised him from pics of our NextGen game.

I knew he was meant as cover, but my point was there is that there is no guarantee he will hit the ground running or perform any better than Onomah or Winks would, were they given the chance. Therefore he would just be getting development time ahead of our own players. He is young and not the WC player we need. Capoue was top of interception and tackling stats in Ligue 1 or near the top, and people would argue whether he has been a success, so Rabiot may not provide the cover we immediately need. I would rather loan/buy Cabaye as cover.

 

[spurs9]

Missed this post mate. Ye was unsure, I knew he played in the previous games. I know about Coman saw him play for France u21s against England, I recognised him from pics of our NextGen game.

I knew he was meant as cover, but my point was there is that there is no guarantee he will hit the ground running or perform any better than Onomah or Winks would, were they given the chance. Therefore he would just be getting development time ahead of our own players. He is young and not the WC player we need. Capoue was top of interception and tackling stats in Ligue 1 or near the top, and people would argue whether he has been a success, so Rabiot may not provide the cover we immediately need. I would rather loan/buy Cabaye as cover.

I agree, I would rather our youngsters get given the chance rather than bringing him in and also would rather have Cabaye (though would prefer Milner).

It is worth noting that Rabiot is more attack minded than Capoue and has a higher intensity to his play, so I think that he would fit Poch's system better. Also, I think he is physically ahead of Onomah and Winks in his development and another thing to consider is we could bring him in just in case Winks and Onomah aren't ready and if they are, we are under no obligation to play him (and don't care if his value drops due to lack of games) and if he kicks off about lack of game time, we just terminate the loan.

 

[prawnsandwich]

Is this loan deal for real? We need some alternatives.

 

[ButchCassidy]

From today's Le Parisien:

"Rabiot party to stay. Holder yesterday Adrien Rabiot should stay in Paris. Tottenham, a person time to host international hopes have been cooled by the terms of the loan. The London club was supposed to take over the entire salary (about 250 € 000 gross monthly), without having a purchase option."

 

[prawnsandwich]

If his mum got him a new €250,000 a month contract AND more game time-I bet his team mates want her as their agent too!

 

[THFCSPURS19]

http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/tran...psg?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

[prawnsandwich]

http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/...-to-sign-midfielder-is-facing-underhand-games

"PSG aren't playing ball. The clause didn't stipulate when in the window he'd be allowed to leave and by dragging things out the French club have frustrated Tottenham enough for the deal not to be really worth it for them any longer. PSG could push the situation so far that no club deems it worth trying to get Rabiot."


It's worth reading the whole article because Roma are involved in this and that may explain why the reported Chiriches deal did not go through.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/...-to-sign-midfielder-is-facing-underhand-games

"PSG aren't playing ball. The clause didn't stipulate when in the window he'd be allowed to leave and by dragging things out the French club have frustrated Tottenham enough for the deal not to be really worth it for them any longer. PSG could push the situation so far that no club deems it worth trying to get Rabiot."


It's worth reading the whole article because Roma are involved in this and that may explain why the reported Chiriches deal did not go through.

Thanks for that. Seems like PSG are being awkward as fuck and really unfair with the kid.

 

[MetalFace D]

Thanks for that. Seems like PSG are being awkward as fuck and really unfair with the kid.

He shouldnt of signed the contract then. He knows he's a hot prospect and many number of top clubs would of been in for him. Sucks because i would of loved to see him in lillywhite, he's being wasted away on the bench.

 

[Blackcanary]

Thanks for that. Seems like PSG are being awkward as fuck and really unfair with the kid.

I think the problem is that the minute Blanc has any extended slump, he is outta there. And then Rabiot will likely get a lot more game time as he's highly rated by the powers that be there. I think that's why they're fudging, obscuring and delaying.

 

[HappySpur]

I think the thing that stands out to me is that it looks very unlikely that he will move to us. I had thought that were we to get him on loan, it might have a chance at permanency. Not without headaches and definitely without guarantees......this is us after all. But this just seems like a five (now four) month loan at best. No chance that he would play for us longer than that. So why bother? Or maybe I am missing something. It's too bad

 

[SHaRD]

I think the thing that stands out to me is that it looks very unlikely that he will move to us. I had thought that were we to get him on loan, it might have a chance at permanency. Not without headaches and definitely without guarantees......this is us after all. But this just seems like a five (now four) month loan at best. No chance that he would play for us longer than that. So why bother? Or maybe I am missing something. It's too bad

He's better than Dembele and Capoue, and we'd just be paying minimal wages

 

[HappySpur]

He's better than Dembele and Capoue, and we'd just be paying minimal wages

He may well be, but he still has to adjust to the league. Typically we expect this to take six months. Which would just cover his loan. Now, I do realize that he had time at Citeh as wee lad, but he washed out quickly, so I think he would probably still need time to adjust.

Granted, he might just come in and tear the league up. Some French players adapt surprisingly quickly. But seeing as he didn't the first time, it's probably safe to assume that he won't be one of these French players.

So at that point, it does become a gamble to bring in a younger player to help in the present when the likelihood of a future is negligible, no matter the money. Boon or bust? Hard to tell.

 

[Strikeb4ck]

He's better than Dembele and Capoue, and we'd just be paying minimal wages

In that post above it says PSG wanted us to take on his 250k wages, so not sure about that.