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Shanks

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May 11, 2005
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I'd go as far as saying that Alnwick, is one of the worst keepers signed by any Premier League club ...
 

Maske2g

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Feb 1, 2005
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Awful lot of fuss being made about our third choice keeper....

Have we ever had a good 3rd choice keeper?

For many a season we never had a good first choice!!
 

Bus-Conductor

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I don't really see which of the goals Alnwick is any more to blame for than the defence ?

Seems to me all four goals were mostly shocking defending by the back four who were as bad as they had been good on wednesday.

I've only seen Alnwick twice, both at Burnley, and both times we played fucking awful, yet both times he seems to have been made scapegoat. He didn't cover himself in glory either time and Gomes would have saved things he conceded possibly but you could say that about most keepers.

I think far more blame should go to Redknapp - who afterwards said he perhaps should have changed some players - and the players who managed to allow themselves to be dominated by burnley for large chunks of this game despite the fact that there could actually been a shitload riding on this game.
 

Shanks

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I don't and can't blame him fo the goals BC, it's just overall, he isn't very good in goal, certainly not for the standard needed for us.

But, he is 3rd choice, for a reason I guess, although I'm sure we could get better, fuck, I'd be bravce enough to say that I'm better!!!
 

StartingPrice

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I don't really see which of the goals Alnwick is any more to blame for than the defence ?

Seems to me all four goals were mostly shocking defending by the back four who were as bad as they had been good on wednesday.

I've only seen Alnwick twice, both at Burnley, and both times we played fucking awful, yet both times he seems to have been made scapegoat. He didn't cover himself in glory either time and Gomes would have saved things he conceded possibly but you could say that about most keepers.

I think far more blame should go to Redknapp - who afterwards said he perhaps should have changed some players - and the players who managed to allow themselves to be dominated by burnley for large chunks of this game.

I agree with this.

The only concern I have, BC, is that he looked nervous at the beginning, and stunned at the end. Goalkeeper's, more than any outfield player, need absolute self-belief - his looked lacking.

Having said that, he looked quite comfortable with the ball on the ground, for the most part.

Still think it is too early to be secodng guessing 'Arry. If he gets shot then we can take it as red that he ain't all that. If 'Arry keeps him, then maybe the boy has talents we just haven't seen in two games where the team weren't great.
 

Bus-Conductor

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I don't and can't blame him fo the goals BC, it's just overall, he isn't very good in goal, certainly not for the standard needed for us.

But, he is 3rd choice, for a reason I guess, although I'm sure we could get better, fuck, I'd be bravce enough to say that I'm better!!!


But, to be fair shanks, how many times have you seen him play ?

Maybe he's not great, but neither time I've seen him play has he been responsible for our results. The team have.
 

Shanks

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I do agree BC that the team are at fault, but someone with more ability would have eased results, I am positive of it.

I've never been that great a fan of Alnwick though, was very surprised we bought him and got rid of Fulop back in the day.

Still a number 3 keeper, needs to have potential, we wouldn't get anyone fantastic happy to be 3rd down the pecking order, it's usually why they are very young keepers.
 

Leo

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May 16, 2004
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Didn't we sign alnwick cause he double teamed some gumar with liam lawrence, and sunderland needed to get rid and quickly?

He's crap isn't he, I'd give any spurs player a fair chance, I think he's had his though and would expect a change this summer.
 

ward1848

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I remember how bad he was against Burnley in the caring cup semi that time, i wasnt suprised to see him do so badly again......
 

Limee

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It is not Alnwick's fault that he had to come in to replace a brilliant keeper.

It is not Alnwick's fault that we lost yesterday.

It is not Alnwick's fault that he is probably not good enough for premier league football.

There is no way we should have failed to get a proper back up keeper in January. There will be a drop off anytime Gomes cannot play for us, but we need someone who can come in and do a solid job. Alnwick looked like a nervous kitten yesterday in an end of season game which was never likely to mean anything.
 

Blockbuster

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oh I firmly blame Alnwick, he breathed a whole vote of no confidence in our defence and he looked so shakey for EVERY goal.

He is terrible and we need a proper #2
 

Shanks

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In his defense, as I do feel quite bad now.

He isn't our number 2, and never was, just unfortunate that Cudi got injured.

But, as a 3rd choice, I still don't think he cuts it :)

Certainly no more to blame than the team in front of him for yesterdays goals though.
 

AW?

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Feb 6, 2006
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Thank fook The Octopus was fit for the Citeh game eh?
 

Blockbuster

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Thank god the seasons over!

We need to buy some new keepers to push gomes and keep him at his best.
 

DC_Boy

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it's not alnwick's fault he's not good enough, it was harry's and others fault we didn't get in cover - luckily we got away with it

alnwick however was at fault or more charitably 'didn't do well' for 3 of the goals, including the all important first goal

basically just as last year any half decent shot/header burnley put at him he let in -

i doubt he's even championship level - that's not his fault it's just the way it is - no-one 's suggesting he was chucking 'em in - he's just not good enough
 

whitelightwhiteheat

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Jul 21, 2006
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I don't think it's a matter of blaming Alnwick for the defeat yesterday (didn't really matter in the grand scheme of things)

For me it's a matter of is he really good enough for what we need in the next for seasons? The answer is plain to see.
 

camaj

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Gomes might have saved the first but I'm not sure he'd have saved the other 3. Terrible defending, not sure why people are willing to let the defence off the hook, all 4 of them cocked up. Perhaps it was tiredness or complacency but the one person who wasn't at fault was Alnwick.
 
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