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Angelo Ogbonna

arunspurs

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Latest transfer rumour is from Italy;

Player : Angelo Ogbonna
Foot : Left footed
Position: CB & also LB
Club : Juventus
Age : 26

Ogbonna is known for pace & strength & has good aerial ability; His pass completion is one of the highest in Italy for a defender; Interestingly, this made both Italy national team & Juve attimes deploy him at Left Back; He was bought from Torino for 13m Euros last summer; Its said that he was bought as Cheillini replacement; While he hasn't struggled, he simply couldn't get ahead of Chiellini in starting XI in important games.

Source : http://www.calcionews24.com/tottenham-derby-inglese-per-ogbonna-387588.html

Basically, it says Ogbonna's representatives will start to London on Friday and meet Spurs representatives to discuss on a potential move. They also claim Arsenal & United are interested.


Full translation :

Angelo Ogbonna could go and play in England. defender of Cassino native and grew up in Turin could change the air after the millions spent on him from Juventus last season. Ogbonna there for Tottenham , but the road to Spurs could be uphill as well as Manchester United and Arsenal have been put on his trail .

TOWARDS THE PREMIER - The entourage of Ogbonna start Friday for England and will not only met the emissaries of Tottenham, but local rivals Arsenal and Manchester United will try to put a spoke in the wheel for the player. Attention also to Monaco , as reported TuttoSport , the Monegasque have shown interest in Italian and it is said that they can not groped un'oiffensiva.
 

Dirty Ewok

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From what i saw of him at Torino (which is very little) he really looks like a freakishly good athlete....very good pace for a CB but he is also a big guy who looked solid in aerial battles...

The little i saw of him it seemed like he relied a bit on his athletic ability a bit more than his ability to read the game, but i really haven't seen enough to say if that is the case or not.

I know he was fairly highly regarded by people in Italy before moving to Juve and people thought he would become a big part of Juve down the line but it seems like he couldn't crack the lineup (which probably has as much to do with the talent already at Juve as anything else).....can't imagine him being overly expensive for a fee or wages so it may be a interesting move for us.
 

Yorkville Spur

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This would be a great signing for us. I'm a Torino fan so I'm pretty familiar with Ogbonna and the guy he reminds me of is a prime Rio Ferdinand. A good defender, positions himself well, and plays the ball well. We could do a lot worse and Spurs rescuing him from the pure evil that is Juventus would be icing on the cake.
 

MattPhilpott

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From what I've seen of Ogbonna, backing up previous statements, seems like a good athlete who shows great pace, but enough strength to match people arially. Juventus was always going to be a tough move for him, with the likes of Chiellini, Barzaglhi, Caceras and Bonucci all playing that same role to a high standard.

I think with a bit of a lack of first team football, he could be very open to a move, with the PL looking like a challenging, ambitious move, especially to a club like Spurs, who could benifit from having a solid unit to help out the likes of Vlad, who could do with a strong partner to help him out against physical strikers (Carroll, etc)

My only drawback is that if he plays alongside Verts, having two left footed CB's could be problematic, but that's only my personal opinion, get him signed!
 

DaSpurs

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From what I've seen of Ogbonna, backing up previous statements, seems like a good athlete who shows great pace, but enough strength to match people arially. Juventus was always going to be a tough move for him, with the likes of Chiellini, Barzaglhi, Caceras and Bonucci all playing that same role to a high standard.

I think with a bit of a lack of first team football, he could be very open to a move, with the PL looking like a challenging, ambitious move, especially to a club like Spurs, who could benifit from having a solid unit to help out the likes of Vlad, who could do with a strong partner to help him out against physical strikers (Carroll, etc)

My only drawback is that if he plays alongside Verts, having two left footed CB's could be problematic, but that's only my personal opinion, get him signed!

If both Dawson and Kaboul are to be moved on, which isn't astronomical, I don't at all mind the idea of picking up both Lovren and this guy. Would leave us with very athletic options, and due to having two lefties it would allow Vlad to really focus on developing at RCB.
 

Mouse!

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From what I've seen of Ogbonna, backing up previous statements, seems like a good athlete who shows great pace, but enough strength to match people arially. Juventus was always going to be a tough move for him, with the likes of Chiellini, Barzaglhi, Caceras and Bonucci all playing that same role to a high standard.

I think with a bit of a lack of first team football, he could be very open to a move, with the PL looking like a challenging, ambitious move, especially to a club like Spurs, who could benifit from having a solid unit to help out the likes of Vlad, who could do with a strong partner to help him out against physical strikers (Carroll, etc)

My only drawback is that if he plays alongside Verts, having two left footed CB's could be problematic, but that's only my personal opinion, get him signed!

It's weird how we all think like this, I do too, and yet two right footed CB's is seen as a perfectly acceptable combination (Koscielny and Mertesacker, Terry and Cahill etc). There's no difference at all, really.
 

Barry Mead

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It's weird how we all think like this, I do too, and yet two right footed CB's is seen as a perfectly acceptable combination (Koscielny and Mertesacker, Terry and Cahill etc). There's no difference at all, really.


I don't think it's particularly an issue of being right footed or left footed so much as that some players that look comfortable in one position just struggle to adjust, other players don't

I think when you see a player that always tends to play on one side there are always likely to be concerns about their ability to adjust to the other position, it doesn't mean they can't but equally there are no guarantees they can, or at least can do it to a high enough standard
 

GetSpurredOn

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I am very much in favour of adding a left sided Central Defender. I think Kaboul and Chiriches both look more comfortable when played on the right.
A lot of the talk about Pochettino's system mentions how when the full backs push on, the defensive midfielder drops a little deeper, with the corresponding centre half sliding across to narrow the gap to the touch line. On that basis, having centre backs on their natural side can only help.
This was part of the reason I'd have taken Lescott. Gives is natural like for like competition/cover for Jan, on the left side of central defence. This guy sounds like he'd fill the same role. Lescott may cost more in wages, and be older, but there'd be no transfer fee, no need to settle to the league, and would count on the home grown quota.
That said, I don't know enough Ogbonna to rule him out. I do think we're looking at the right position though.
 

michaelden

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From what i saw of him at Torino (which is very little) he really looks like a freakishly good athlete....very good pace for a CB but he is also a big guy who looked solid in aerial battles...

The little i saw of him it seemed like he relied a bit on his athletic ability a bit more than his ability to read the game, but i really haven't seen enough to say if that is the case or not.

I know he was fairly highly regarded by people in Italy before moving to Juve and people thought he would become a big part of Juve down the line but it seems like he couldn't crack the lineup (which probably has as much to do with the talent already at Juve as anything else).....can't imagine him being overly expensive for a fee or wages so it may be a interesting move for us.

This! Juve, my other team, are overloaded with class defenders. I would love Ogbonna at Spurs
 

bubble07

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There are several centre back pairing who are predominantly right footed so I don't see there being an issue with 2 predominantly left footed pairings
 

maltahotspur

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Besides Spurs, who are the team which comes first and foremost for me, I do follow Torino Calcio in Italy as my preferred team there - Due to the fact that like Tottenham, their name starts with TO...., -

So, I really know quite a lot about Ogbonna and I will be very happy should we succeed to sign him on. He is really fast, strong and clever on the ball. He also has a lot of composure on the ball and also strong in the air. He has also made 9 appearances for Italy's National team and at 26 years he is at his prime.

The only reason why his career stalled was due to his transfer to Juve last season, where the wealth of talent they have in his position, made life so difficult for him there.

I would be happy for us if it happens.
 

y1dk1d

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How could you play both vert and Ogbonna at the same time ? Both are left footed if i am not wrong

Really doesn't make a difference:
Ferdinand and Vidic (both right foot)
Cahill and Terry (both right foot)
Koscielny and Mertesacker (both right foot)
Some of the best CB partnerships consist of CBs with players of the same foot.

Hell I think that Verts and Ogbonna would make a great partnership. The classy composure of Jan and the beasty athleticism of Ogbonna could be great together
 

St José Dominguez

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It's all about technique. Plenty of right footed pairings (and very good ones at that) around the world.

It is a valid point though. If a defender has been solely playing in LCB role switching them to RCB won't necessarily work. Despite being the same area of the field there's a big difference. If a player is accustomed to having a full back to their left it can lead them to looking like a fish out of water if switched. I made similar point re Chirches not being able to play alongside Kaboul earlier. Technique is the only thing, it may take a season for a player to even get used to playing on opposite side, not sure something we can afford.
 
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