Anthony Martial

[Atomic Flea]

If we can sign Martial it would be seriously foolish to turn it down. We have seen in the past how players with huge potential failed to cut the mustard under Mourinho, were sold and now are stars. If he goes elsewhere we will definitely kick ourselves for not signing him.

 

[BigPlimpton]

That's why he would be an ideal Son AND Kane back up...

Martial would certainly be great backup, and I like the idea that his flexibility as a wide forward or even center forward in certain game situations gives Poch more options from the bench and makes it easier to drop (and sell) Llorente.

Isn't the real question though whether Martial would be happy moving to another backup role? The whole reason he's leaving United is for more playing time. If he doesn't get it with Spurs, how's his sulking attitude going to play in our locker room, on our sideline, etc? My concern (and not to beat a dead horse as I know I've posted about it earlier) is if we're not bringing him in to start most games, and benching Son or Alli to accomodate that, this is potentially a bad move for team chemistry and morale.

 

[George94]

Son is far more direct in his approach, he tries to outpace you then pop a shot, Martial will kill you with not only his pace but his incredible close dribbling skills, makes him harder to defend against imo

Just a shame Martial isn't left footed and plays off the right...

 

[Atomic Flea]

Martial would certainly be great backup, and I like the idea that his flexibility as a wide forward or even center forward in certain game situations gives Poch more options from the bench and makes it easier to drop (and sell) Llorente.

Isn't the real question though whether Martial would be happy moving to another backup role? The whole reason he's leaving United is for more playing time. If he doesn't get it with Spurs, how's his sulking attitude going to play in our locker room, on our sideline, etc? My concern (and not to beat a dead horse as I know I've posted about it earlier) is if we're not bringing him in to start most games, and benching Son or Alli to accomodate that, this is potentially a bad move for team chemistry and morale.

There has been numerous times when we didn't bench Alli when he should have been with sub par performances. Signing Martial will give him this competition he needs.

 

[rossdapep]

Why United don't want to sell him to a rival?

Well, the majority of the fans really really rate him. My brother was scoffing at me last summer when I suggested we wanted him, he believed that Martial would become a huge player for them and he was just getting used to Mourinho's ways. That's not just my brother's opinion, pretty much every United fan I know acknowledges that he has something special. Consider their dismay at Mourinho's treatment of him and you can see he's a player admired a lot and when United signed him they had huge hopes for him. But they're having to go against their wishes, their having to back Mourinho and he wants him gone. Considering how highly the club rate him and the fans, can you see why they are desperate for him to not stay in the PL?

The club could have egg on their faces AND
the fans will be outraged at letting a highly talented player leave to a rival.

They know that they could be facing a De Bruyne or Salah situation.

Unfortunately for them they have to go with Mourinho's wishes, he wants him gone and he wants backing. As soon as Mourinho gets aggy about replacing him then the sooner they may need to just simply sell.

But I don't think they are going to accept our offer easily.

 

[andy00900]

36million with add ons rising to 60million or so. Don't think he really achieved many if not all of the requirements to jump the fee.

From sky sports:

There are then three further potential payments - €10m (£7.7m) if the player scores 25 first-team goals for Manchester United, €10m (£7.7m) if Martial makes 25 appearances for the French national team and €10m (£7.7m) more if the player is ever nominated for the Ballon d'Or award.

There is also a sell-on clause inserted in the deal, with Monaco due to be paid 50 per cent of any transfer fee between €60m and €100m United receive for the player.

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ny-martial-could-cost-manchester-united-61-5m


Hefty sell on fee

 

[George94]

Martial would certainly be great backup, and I like the idea that his flexibility as a wide forward or even center forward in certain game situations gives Poch more options from the bench and makes it easier to drop (and sell) Llorente.

Isn't the real question though whether Martial would be happy moving to another backup role? The whole reason he's leaving United is for more playing time. If he doesn't get it with Spurs, how's his sulking attitude going to play in our locker room, on our sideline, etc? My concern (and not to beat a dead horse as I know I've posted about it earlier) is if we're not bringing him in to start most games, and benching Son or Alli to accomodate that, this is potentially a bad move for team chemistry and morale.

(4-3-3)

Martial Kane Son

Dele Eriksen
Dier


Against the teams who put 11 behind the ball?

 

[BigPlimpton]

(4-3-3)

Martial Kane Son

Dele Eriksen
Dier


Against the teams who put 11 behind the ball?

I mean, you're not wrong. It's an absolutely dirty, dirty lineup on paper. But Dier in a single pivot makes me want to shit my pants sometimes...

 

[dtxspurs]

From sky sports:

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ny-martial-could-cost-manchester-united-61-5m


Hefty sell on fee

Thats why we offer them 59,999,999. But honestly can't see him going for 60million at this point. He hasn't proven he's worth that to this point. Potential yes, but overall no.

 

[George94]

I mean, you're not wrong. It's an absolutely dirty, dirty lineup on paper. But Dier in a single pivot makes me want to shit my pants sometimes...

Fuck it, all out attack


(4-3-3)

Martial Kane Son

Dele Eriksen
Winks

 

[ItsBoris]

Martial is the sort of player that when I see him in the Utd team against us I get worried. That is the sort of player I want for our team - the kid has a ton of talent and could be a real world beater if given the chance to progress.

Would he get that here though? We have Lamela, Eriksen, Son, and Lucas in the wide positions, and I think we have a problem at the moment getting those players enough game time to build consistency and momentum. If he was clearly better than Son and Lucas then I'd be all for it but I don't think there's much evidence of that. Still would be excited to have him here though.

 

[HildoSpur]

Would he get that here though? We have Lamela, Eriksen, Son, and Lucas in the wide positions, and I think we have a problem at the moment getting those players enough game time to build consistency and momentum. If he was clearly better than Son and Lucas then I'd be all for it but I don't think there's much evidence of that. Still would be excited to have him here though.

I honestly would have him as a starter.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Llorente's as good as gone I would've thought. And between Son and Martial there'd be sufficient backup for Harry.

Yeah he's been publicly trying to woo Athletic Bilbao, so I reckon you're about right.

“Athletic Club are my home and if they make an offer, a return could happen.

“I enjoyed many wonderful moments at the club that I will never forget and Athletic will always hold a special place in my heart.

“If they do make me a proposal to come back, then I would have to think about it and yes, maybe it could happen.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...ure-tottenham-open-to-move-away-a8319651.html

Im not sure about Martial being a Kane replacement. Like Son, you put him there and he can probably do a job but you’re taking him out of his best position. Llorente didn’t get a look in so no one is really going to want to come to be back up and not get a game, but there must be a very promising youngster somewhere who will be up for it.

Rashford.

 

[John48]

Martial gives us options & would start quite often in the 3 behind Kane, but him or Son could cover Kane.

Personally, if this goes through I see it as the end for Lamela.

 

[BigPlimpton]

Fuck it, all out attack


(4-3-3)

Martial Kane Son

Dele Eriksen
Winks

Well...Guardiola rocked the league this year with fernandinho in a single pivot role, and I don't think anyone would have pegged that as a really good idea if you had asked around two summers ago when Fernandinho looked like a wash up and after he was humiliated in Brazil in 2014. But City just had so much possession of the ball and DeBruyne was so good playing deep enough that at times he was in an almost rotating box-to-box role with Silva and Gundogan. I would look at their lineup every game this past year and would always be shocked at how dominant they were with possession.

I've got to put the trust and faith in Poch that he knows what he's doing here and feels that Alli and Eriksen and Dier/Winks/(potential new signing???) can be coached up to make that kind of system work. One thing Poch has done exceptionally well is studying and improving based on other managers' successful tactics (like Conte's 3-5-2 which Poch deployed to shred Madrid and Dortmund at Wembley). Martial definitely provides flexibility for rotating between different systems with different forward and midfield options I guess. As long as we can keep him happy enough to not be a problem child.

 

[Lilbaz]

From sky sports:

http://www.skysports.com/football/n...ny-martial-could-cost-manchester-united-61-5m


Hefty sell on fee

So sell us martial at a knock down fee and we sell toby for a knockdown fee. Fucking over monaco would be nice.

 

[ItsBoris]

I honestly would have him as a starter.

Based on what though? He wasn't better than any of our front 4 last season.

 

[kdmull]

Based on what though? He wasn't better than any of our front 4 last season.

He also played in Mourinho's incompetent attack. If you put any of our front 4 in it, they wouldn't be as successful as they were for us.

Martial's peak is very high and hopefully Poch could get him there. IMO he's a better player than Son right now too.

 

[faze_coys]

Thats why we offer them 59,999,999. But honestly can't see him going for 60million at this point. He hasn't proven he's worth that to this point. Potential yes, but overall no.

Think its £46m+, so it would be in uniteds favour to sell around the figure and stick some similar add ons which would get around the sell on.

Im sure Levy would use this to pull Woodwards pants down.

 

[andy00900]

Probably would be the best 1 on 1 in our squad if we signed him right?