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Appreciation of our former greats

VegasII

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I couldn’t find anywhere for this so I thought a new thread would be fun.

Appreciation of our former greats and what they achieved in football after leaving us. I’ll start with Hoddle at Monaco.

Decent music, triffic Glenda:


See how many other things we can find.

Note: since this is SC you’re welcome to post stuff like agent Keane pissing up chances at West Ham :D
 

mumfordspur

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John Duncan
I always expected the enigmatic Scotsman to score but I read some tool's article (not SC) putting him in a list of failures at Spurs.

p.s. Glenn in red & white is just wrong take it down Vegas
 

Gassin's finest

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Speaking of Hoddle and the South of France, can we just take a moment to recall how his singing partner is still considered a God in Marseille:

 
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SecretLemonadeDrinker

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Edit: Just realised that I hadn't read the OP properly and that the thread is supposed to be about what happened to our greats after leaving Spurs. But, bollocks, after writing all the below, I'm not deleting it!

For those of you not lucky enough to have seen Glenn Hoddle play, I urge you to watch the following video. Quite simply, the man was a genius. I would argue that he was the most gifted English footballer ever. There have been many others faster, quicker, stronger or harder working or with a more effective overall mix of attributes. But in terms of sheer ability with the ball, Hoddle is unmatched. I could even go so far as to say, without a hint of embarrassment or hyperbole, that he might well be the greatest ever passer in the history of world football.

He could control a pass like no one else before or since. The weight of it was almost always perfect, such that the teammate receiving the ball didn't have to stretch or break his stride in the slightest. He put all kinds of spin on his passes, depending upon requirement. Like a snooker player with a cue ball. Really. It was that precise. You can see it in the video. His appreciation of angles, space and pace (of ball and receiver) was otherworldly. For good measure, he was almost equally adept with his left foot as he was with his right.

He was a scorer of many an outstanding goal too, of course. It always amused me that there has ever been any debate about that goal against Watford - did he mean to chip the keeper or was it a cross? To those unsure I simply reply.....you're talking about Glenn Hoddle - if he kicked the ball over the keeper's head and into the net, then he meant it.

He could also dribble and feint and shimmy and generally embarrass his markers in all manner of ways. But it is for his passing ability that he will always be especially remembered. He was scandalously under-appreciated and misused by England, in particular. It was only when he moved to Monaco that he received universal acclaim. Michel Platini said that, had Hoddle been French, he would have got 150 caps. Another opponent from the French League (I forget who) said (I paraphrase) "how are you supposed to stop an opponent who has hands where he should have feet?"

Enjoy:

 
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rez9000

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Edit: Just realised that I hadn't read the OP properly and that the thread is supposed to be about what happened to our greats after leaving Spurs. But, bollocks, after writing all the below, I'm not deleting it!

For those of you not lucky enough to have seen Glenn Hoddle play, I urge you to watch the following video. Quite simply, the man was a genius. I would argue that he was the most gifted English footballer ever. There have been many others faster, quicker, stronger or harder working or with a more effective overall mix of attributes. But in terms of sheer ability with the ball, Hoddle is unmatched. I could even go so far as to say, without a hint of embarrassment or hyperbole, that he might well be the greatest ever passer in the history of world football.

He could control a pass like no one else before or since. The weight of it was almost always perfect, such that the teammate receiving the ball didn't have to stretch or break his stride in the slightest. He put all kinds of spin on his passes, depending upon requirement. Like a snooker player with a cue ball. Really. It was that precise. You can see it in the video. His appreciation of angles, space and pace (of ball and receiver) was otherworldly. For good measure, he was almost equally adept with his left foot as he was with his right.

He was a scorer of many an outstanding goal too, of course. It always amused me that there has ever been any debate about that goal against Watford - did he mean to chip the keeper or was it a cross? To those unsure I simply reply.....you're talking about Glenn Hoddle - if he kicked the ball over the keeper's head and into the net, then he meant it.

He could also dribble and feint and shimmy and generally embarrass his markers in all manner of ways. But it is for his passing ability that he will always be especially remembered. He was scandalously under-appreciated and misused by England, in particular. It was only when he moved to Monaco that he received universal acclaim. Michel Platini said that, had Hoddle been French, he would have got 150 caps. Another opponent from the French League (I forget who) said (I paraphrase) "how are you supposed to stop an opponent who has hands where he should have feet?"

Enjoy:


If he'd been born forty years later and nothing else about his abilities were different, he'd be still be one of the most coveted players in the world. Nothing he was able to do, especially doing it on those iffy pitches and with that boulder of a football would be out of place today.
 

Ionman34

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Edit: Just realised that I hadn't read the OP properly and that the thread is supposed to be about what happened to our greats after leaving Spurs. But, bollocks, after writing all the below, I'm not deleting it!

For those of you not lucky enough to have seen Glenn Hoddle play, I urge you to watch the following video. Quite simply, the man was a genius. I would argue that he was the most gifted English footballer ever. There have been many others faster, quicker, stronger or harder working or with a more effective overall mix of attributes. But in terms of sheer ability with the ball, Hoddle is unmatched. I could even go so far as to say, without a hint of embarrassment or hyperbole, that he might well be the greatest ever passer in the history of world football.

He could control a pass like no one else before or since. The weight of it was almost always perfect, such that the teammate receiving the ball didn't have to stretch or break his stride in the slightest. He put all kinds of spin on his passes, depending upon requirement. Like a snooker player with a cue ball. Really. It was that precise. You can see it in the video. His appreciation of angles, space and pace (of ball and receiver) was otherworldly. For good measure, he was almost equally adept with his left foot as he was with his right.

He was a scorer of many an outstanding goal too, of course. It always amused me that there has ever been any debate about that goal against Watford - did he mean to chip the keeper or was it a cross? To those unsure I simply reply.....you're talking about Glenn Hoddle - if he kicked the ball over the keeper's head and into the net, then he meant it.

He could also dribble and feint and shimmy and generally embarrass his markers in all manner of ways. But it is for his passing ability that he will always be especially remembered. He was scandalously under-appreciated and misused by England, in particular. It was only when he moved to Monaco that he received universal acclaim. Michel Platini said that, had Hoddle been French, he would have got 150 caps. Another opponent from the French League (I forget who) said (I paraphrase) "how are you supposed to stop an opponent who has hands where he should have feet?"

Enjoy:


That pass at 2:30! He put so much back spin on the ball it bounced backwards!

He was my idol growing up and I spent years trying to emulate that back spin pass but never could, and I've never seen any other player anywhere able to do it either.

Genius indeed.
 

Geyzer Soze

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I don't think this legend needs any introduction ..

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Gassin's finest

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Yyyeah... its about players after they left us... but regarding Hoddle; As someone said about Greavse, Hoddle is the reason I support Spurs.
 

rez9000

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According to the BBC, Steve Archibald is the only person to have appeared live twice in the same episode of Top of the Pops. In a 1982 episode, he first appeared with the Scotland World Cup squad singing We Have a Dream, and later in the show he appeared in our FA Cup Final squad who got to number 19 in the charts with Tottenham Tottenham.
 
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