Are Arsenal slipping?

[riggi]

Always in their shadow init

 

[Drexl]

They may be slipping but are still way better than us, we are not in a position to gloat

 

[lenny7]

I wouldn't say they're slipping, probably treading water in terms of where you'd expect them to be. I think their biggest problem is Ozil at the minute, just hasn't performed since arriving and many are speculating that something just isn't right with him over here. Indeed he looks a vastly different player in a German shirt than he ever has in a scum rag. I think they are way too scared to do anything through fear of him being branded a (massively expensive) flop, but then I don't think they will improve unless he starts putting in a shift or they drop him/move him on.

 

[Lufti]

I wouldn't say they're slipping, probably treading water in terms of where you'd expect them to be. I think their biggest problem is Ozil at the minute, just hasn't performed since arriving and many are speculating that something just isn't right with him over here. Indeed he looks a vastly different player in a German shirt than he ever has in a scum rag. I think they are way too scared to do anything through fear of him being branded a (massively expensive) flop, but then I don't think they will improve unless he starts putting in a shift or they drop him/move him on.

Re: Özil, I'm not sure he will come good either.

For what it's worth, Schalke academy director Oliver Ruhnert who nurtured Özil through our academy had this to say about him:

‘Mesut was unbelievable at a young age, a real No 10. But now I don’t think he is the right player for the Premier League (with Arsenal). He is not a fighter. If you need to fight in a match then that’s not him. I think it would be good for him to make a new start, but he is too expensive for us now!’

 

[beats1]

They may be slipping but are still way better than us, we are not in a position to gloat

I wouldnt say way better.

I would say we a different proposition with our first choice CB's and RB. How would Arsenal look with their third choice and fourth choice CB?

Welbeck
Ozil --- Wilshere --- Sanchez
Ramsey --- Flamini
Gibbs --- Hayden -- Bellerin --- Chambers
Tosser​

Notice that they don't have any cover for CB.

Arsenal are playing a risky game and now that debuchy is out, it means Monreal, Mertesacker and Kosceilny as their CB options

 

[Coyboy]

Meatpacker and Kos are good though.

 

[lenny7]

Re: Özil, I'm not sure he will come good either.

For what it's worth, Schalke academy director Oliver Ruhnert who nurtured Özil through our academy had this to say about him:

‘Mesut was unbelievable at a young age, a real No 10. But now I don’t think he is the right player for the Premier League (with Arsenal). He is not a fighter. If you need to fight in a match then that’s not him. I think it would be good for him to make a new start, but he is too expensive for us now!’

I remember him being moved on from Schalke and then came to prominence on the wing with Bremen, especially during their UEFA Cup/Europa league run (escapes me if it'd changed by that time) that year. I can't say I've seen him play as well or influence a game quite like he did before moving in from the wing to a more central role, but judging from his no-show at the weekend, his midfield position wouldn't appear to be the problem he's facing at the moment.

 

[lenny7]

Meatpackersucker and Kos are good though.

FYP

 

[Coyboy]

FYP

Thanks, it's annoying I can't think of a nickname for Kos. We tend to go with 'Gormless'.

 

[beats1]

Meatpacker and Kos are good though.

Is he?

I think teams don't isolate him enough, with the high line he can look like rabbit in head lights. Though kosceilny does protect him alot

 

[moomin]

they always seem to start off slow like this. then around mid-year they turn it around and end up top of the league.

much too early for discussion about them "slipping"

 

[TheAmerican]

Debuchy out for a few months, and Monreal hasn't traveled to Dortmund. They are already in trouble.

 

[LSUY]

I wouldn't say they're slipping, probably treading water in terms of where you'd expect them to be. I think their biggest problem is Ozil at the minute, just hasn't performed since arriving and many are speculating that something just isn't right with him over here. Indeed he looks a vastly different player in a German shirt than he ever has in a scum rag. I think they are way too scared to do anything through fear of him being branded a (massively expensive) flop, but then I don't think they will improve unless he starts putting in a shift or they drop him/move him on.

Don't worry about Ozil the Gooners are organising a chant for him on twitter.

 

[TheChosenOne]

Thanks, it's annoying I can't think of a nickname for Kos. We tend to go with 'Gormless'.

Kostly ?

 

[SpurSince57]

We've had this since 2005-06, most recently last season after they lost to Villa in their opener. Until we actually finish ahead of them, it's wishful thinking.

 

[Lilbaz]

No, they are not slipping.

 

[nferno]

 

[nailsy]

I don't think they are slipping at all. In fact I think they are probably at the stage now where they will start to become serious contenders in a few years. They've finally got the finances sorted and are attracting World Class players again and will probably continue to upgrade a position or two each season. It's going to be very hard for us to keep up with them until we get in our new stadium.

 

[Shanks]

They always play shit at the beginning of the season, then they play us, and things turn around for them.

:-(

 

[CornerPinDreamer]

http://www.theguardian.com/football...ussia-dortmund-arsene-wenger-champions-league

Wenger's obviously been rolf harrising them a bit too much