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[dagraham]

Bale is a piece of shit. Anyone who has understood the subtext of the statement from the club and the statements made by AVB could not think otherwise. He teed up the deal with Madrid in May, guaranteed himself a source of income if the deal didn't happen (20 million Euros from Madrid, this would have handsomely covered any fines imposed by the club and paid for a years supply of pink clothes and shitty hats) and got his move by more or less threatening to miss the whole season.

This forced us to sell him or lose any value as he ran down his contract. His behaviour was disgustingly unprofessional and disrespectful. He does not deserve our approbation or undying love and gratitude, he deserves our derision. If and when he next plays at the Lane he needs to be reminded of his perfidy. Scum bag.

I'm glad your in Australia. Please don't come to WHL.

And seeing as you mention subtext, has it ever occurred to you between your bouts of hate filled shite that the subtext in all of Daniel Levy's statements regarding players we've sold suggests that we are always willing to sell if the price is right.

 

[CanberraSpur]

I'm glad your in Australia. Please don't come to WHL.

And seeing as you mention subtext, has it ever occurred to you between your bouts of hate filled shite that the subtext in all of Daniel Levy's statements regarding players we've sold suggests that we are always willing to sell if the price is right.

...Soft.

 

[ibbz]

I'm glad your in Australia. Please don't come to WHL.

And seeing as you mention subtext, has it ever occurred to you between your bouts of hate filled shite that the subtext in all of Daniel Levy's statements regarding players we've sold suggests that we are always willing to sell if the price is right.

Bit harsh. He's entitled to his opinion, and He whose name must not be mentioned, has warranted the scorn.

 

[dagraham]

Bit harsh. He's entitled to his opinion, and He whose name must not be mentioned, has warranted the scorn.

Yeah, it is a bit harsh but why call Bale a piece of shit? He clearly is far from that, especially when you consider the behaviour of many other footballers off the field but who are perceived as loyal and professional ( but who would almost certainly behave the same way given the circumstances).

I also think that Bale is the one everyone focuses on but ignores the probability that Levy was quite happy with the way it panned out.

 

[tttcowan]

I had a dream last night where Bale played one last game for us THIS season, I don't know who it was against... But he scored the winner with 5 minutes to go, a screamer, at the end he was in tears, AVB was in tears, the crowd was in tears and then they played all his goals on the screen at WHL... Then he left for Madrid... I know it's not remotely realistic but I'd like to remember him leaving in that way... Not kicking up a stink and behaving the way he did...

Also, I should probably get better things to dream about.

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

Yeah, it is a bit harsh but why call Bale a piece of shit? He clearly is far from that, especially when you consider the behaviour of many other footballers off the field but who are perceived as loyal and professional ( but who would almost certainly behave the same way given the circumstances).

I also think that Bale is the one everyone focuses on but ignores the probability that Levy was quite happy with the way it panned out.

Sorry, but I think Canberra has it spot on. We seem to be far too happy to accept this behaviour from our players with some errant misguided belief that perhaps one day they'll return........the only chance of that is if they see another pay day coming or are on the dregs before retirement. I am totally bewildered by those trying to justify Bale's behaviour in all this, and whilst I don't see Levy as a saint I do believe he'll always try to get the best for our club in very difficult circumstances.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Sorry, but I think Canberra has it spot on. We seem to be far too happy to accept this behaviour from our players with some errant misguided belief that perhaps one day they'll return........the only chance of that is if they see another pay day coming or are on the dregs before retirement. I am totally bewildered by those trying to justify Bale's behaviour in all this, and whilst I don't see Levy as a saint I do believe he'll always try to get the best for our club in very difficult circumstances.

FFS GET OVER IT!!

Bale gave us 6 years service. The BIGGEST club in the world wanted to sign him and he jumped at the opportunity. He is clearly ambitious and wants to win many trophies and play at the highest level possible - that is not going to happen at spurs. I didn't hear any whining in the press - he was totally professional and kept his councel unlike Suarez at Liverpool. Him not training for a couple of days is totally irrelevant as by all accounts his transfer away was pretty much agreed by that time.

Despite how much we all love spurs we are not in the elite so we are always vulnerable to losing our best players, especially if the biggest club in the world approach them. I repeat -BALE GAVE US 6 SEASONS OF SERVICE! Lets move on and support our next generation of star players.

 

[Matrix]

FFS GET OVER IT!!

Bale gave us 6 years service. The BIGGEST club in the world wanted to sign him and he jumped at the opportunity. He is clearly ambitious and wants to win many trophies and play at the highest level possible - that is not going to happen at spurs. I didn't hear any whining in the press - he was totally professional and kept his councel unlike Suarez at Liverpool. Him not training for a couple of days is totally irrelevant as by all accounts his transfer away was pretty much agreed by that time.

Despite how much we all love spurs we are not in the elite so we are always vulnerable to losing our best players, especially if the biggest club in the world approach them. I repeat -BALE GAVE US 6 SEASONS OF SERVICE! Lets move on and support our next generation of star players.

Sorry the way he has conducted himself over this and interviews since shows this was being instigated for a while. Yes he gave 3 seasons service( was a bit part injury prone left back before) but he just turned into a toe rag believing his own hype. No humility. He could have just done an ozil and kept saying "no I won't leave and if I do it's up to Tottenham to sort it , I just want to play football". He decided to stay quite and try to come across as the shy boy who knew nothing.
He was amazing the last 2 years, one of the best I've seen at the Lane but He did a Berba. Berba did the same and gets slated but Bale doesn't? I do not get that whatsoever.
As I said before we saw a talented kid grow up and turn into a petulant man.

 

[JerryGarcia]

I think that the way Levy conducts his business with these big transfers has a lot to do with why Berbatov, Modric and now Bale have left on what some would call 'bad terms'. I don't think any of those players wanted to disrespect the club and to me all they're guilty of is looking out for their own interests. I don't hold it against them although its frustrating when it happens.

If Levy had just bent over and let them go for peanuts, we'd have probably been more upset at him than with the players. In the end it gets to the last few days of the window and they still don't have their move so they refuse to play/train. Modric was the worst for me when he said he wanted to play for Chelsea but I can look past it as he stayed and got on with his job.

I'm not saying that their behaviour is justified or correct, but I think its a result of Levy 'Levying' people rather than the players being "pieces of shit" as one poster put it. Levy is still right to go about things this way though, the players might leave on bad terms but I'd rather get the best deal possible for the club than send them off to Madrid/Utd with a pat on the back and nothing much in return.

That's why I don't give stick to former players anyway.

 

[Blackrat1299]

Well it now appears that Bale did force his way out of SPURS. AVB is quoted. Speaking after a meeting of top coaches at UEFA headquarters in Switzerland, he told The Telegraph: “The pressure we were subjected to by the player has been intense. "
So will the real Bale stand up please.


http://www.spurs-web.com/spurs-news/avb-bale-pressure-intense/http://www.spurs-web.com/spurs-news/avb-bale-pressure-intense/

 

[dagraham]

Sorry the way he has conducted himself over this and interviews since shows this was being instigated for a while. Yes he gave 3 seasons service( was a bit part injury prone left back before) but he just turned into a toe rag believing his own hype. No humility. He could have just done an ozil and kept saying "no I won't leave and if I do it's up to Tottenham to sort it , I just want to play football". He decided to stay quite and try to come across as the shy boy who knew nothing.
He was amazing the last 2 years, one of the best I've seen at the Lane but He did a Berba. Berba did the same and gets slated but Bale doesn't? I do not get that whatsoever.
As I said before we saw a talented kid grow up and turn into a petulant man.

I understand what you mean about Berbatov but with Bale it seems we were quite on board with the sale provided we got a massive fee.

As for Ozil, you can't compare the situation. Ozil didn't want to leave, he was basically discarded.

I used to be bitter but after Modric I realised that 99% of players are exactly the same and in a set of identical circumstances will behave more or less the same way.

I will find it hard to watch Bale play for anyone else and I can't stand Madrid and their circus of a club but I hope Bale does well as at the very least he won't be desperate to come back to England and end up playing for Utd, City or Chelsea.

If Bale comes back to WHL I won't be singing his name but I'll give him a decent reception as I think everyone should.

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Bale did not do a Berbatov, who actually refused to warm up in a game.

He was told by Levy at the start of the summer that he would sanction the deal once we had been looked after. I don't blame him for getting a bit pissed off with the delaying tactics at the end. He kept quiet, when he could have been stamping his feet like Modric and Berbatov, it's nothing similar about it in my opinion.

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

FFS GET OVER IT!!

Bale gave us 6 years service. The BIGGEST club in the world wanted to sign him and he jumped at the opportunity. He is clearly ambitious and wants to win many trophies and play at the highest level possible - that is not going to happen at spurs. I didn't hear any whining in the press - he was totally professional and kept his councel unlike Suarez at Liverpool. Him not training for a couple of days is totally irrelevant as by all accounts his transfer away was pretty much agreed by that time.

Despite how much we all love spurs we are not in the elite so we are always vulnerable to losing our best players, especially if the biggest club in the world approach them. I repeat -BALE GAVE US 6 SEASONS OF SERVICE! Lets move on and support our next generation of star players.

Yes, poor little Spurs should just accept their position in the food-chain and get on with it - all the time we have that attitude we'll continue to be bent over by the bigger clubs and we'll never get to 'big club' status ourselves. I also find it bemusing that the old "he gave us 6 years service" keeps getting wheeled out as if he wasn't being paid during those years, and as if he wouldn't be half the player he is now if it wasn't for those 6 years training and learning his trade at Spurs - to me it's the equivalent of training as a doctor on the NHS and then expecting to feck off into private practise as soon as your qualified.

As far as I'm concerned we're all allowed an opinion, and just because mine appears to differ substantially from yours doesn't mean I should "FFS GET OVER IT!!", and I'm a bit naffed off that you can't accept it and feel the need to tell me that!

 

[coldasice199]

Ah well. Can't hold on to these things.

Good luck to bale

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

Ah well. Can't hold on to these things.

Good luck to bale

You are, of course, right. I just think you need to look to the mistakes of the past to ensure you don't make similar in the future.

 

[CanberraSpur]

I am glad I managed to get this conversation between a bunch of pathetic platitudes about the Ghandiesque nature of Gareth.

It seems AVB has more or less corroborated the idea that GB forced his way out by acting like a piece of shit.

This transfer saga, Modric and Berba in particular have set a horrible precedent for our club horrible. Next year when Barca come calling for Verts will he do the same?

I can only hope he is of better character than GB, he seems that way. As supporters if we let these ex players know that we're not going to hero worship them for f**king our club over the players we do have might be more inclined to treat the club with respect.

Who knows its a long shot, but its the only element of this business within our power. So next time GB plays at the lane, instead of burning candles and weeping like a bunch of grandmothers at a Paul McCartney concert why not call him out for the c**t he is?

Also maybe stop with the cum gushing on GBs twitter feed, he has proven he has a massive ego and no moral fibre, he doesn't need more boosting.

 

[Misfit]

I think that the way Levy conducts his business with these big transfers has a lot to do with why Berbatov, Modric and now Bale have left on what some would call 'bad terms'. I don't think any of those players wanted to disrespect the club and to me all they're guilty of is looking out for their own interests. I don't hold it against them although its frustrating when it happens.

If Levy had just bent over and let them go for peanuts, we'd have probably been more upset at him than with the players. In the end it gets to the last few days of the window and they still don't have their move so they refuse to play/train. Modric was the worst for me when he said he wanted to play for Chelsea but I can look past it as he stayed and got on with his job.

I'm not saying that their behaviour is justified or correct, but I think its a result of Levy 'Levying' people rather than the players being "pieces of shit" as one poster put it. Levy is still right to go about things this way though, the players might leave on bad terms but I'd rather get the best deal possible for the club than send them off to Madrid/Utd with a pat on the back and nothing much in return.

That's why I don't give stick to former players anyway.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you but football players have it all their own way these days. Financial security beyond their wildest dreams and the power to hold clubs virtual hostages to their whim and emotions. Almost the exact opposite to the way the clubs seemed the own the very souls of players a few decades ago.

Let's put it another way - say DL simply did not want to sell Bale under any circumstances? He says to GB, "no, you signed a contract with us and we've honoured our part and are paying you a hefty wedge. We'd like you to do the same."

That's hardly unreasonable is it? All very mundane and everyday. Obviously things like "notice" don't exist but then again, most employees aren't given upwards of a 100K a week as a salary in compensation.

The point is that any shenanigans we witnessed this summer with DL trying to accommodate the player's wishes but get as much for the club out of the deal as possible would have paled in comparison to what would have occurred in the above scenario. No Levying done, just one adult talking to another to behave in a professional manner. It's not like Bale was playing for free after all. He still got paid when injured etc. It would have been carnage.

That's not to say clubs are the bastions of integrity but even if a player turns out to be less than desirable on the pitch, the cubs simply can't go on strike and refuse to pay them their tens of thousands a week. An important difference.

That's the problem with football. All this money and still 90% run and operated in the laziest and most amateur fucking manner possible. It's embarrassing. A model professional in this game rarely gets called a model professional. No pat on the back for turning up on time or working their hardest in training and games. Honouring contracts. Instead they get the moniker - "legend" - so low are the standards. By doing the bare minimum, they're an "example to us all".

So I guess, like yourself, I don't hold it against them after they've left in less than amicable circumstances. None of them get my respect though.

 

[dagraham]

I am glad I managed to get this conversation between a bunch of pathetic platitudes about the Ghandiesque nature of Gareth.

It seems AVB has more or less corroborated the idea that GB forced his way out by acting like a piece of shit.

This transfer saga, Modric and Berba in particular have set a horrible precedent for our club horrible. Next year when Barca come calling for Verts will he do the same?

I can only hope he is of better character than GB, he seems that way. As supporters if we let these ex players know that we're not going to hero worship them for f**king our club over the players we do have might be more inclined to treat the club with respect.

Who knows its a long shot, but its the only element of this business within our power. So next time GB plays at the lane, instead of burning candles and weeping like a bunch of grandmothers at a Paul McCartney concert why not call him out for the c**t he is?

Also maybe stop with the cum gushing on GBs twitter feed, he has proven he has a massive ego and no moral fibre, he doesn't need more boosting.

The precedent for selling our best players has been set by Levy not Bale

 

[StartingPrice]

Yes, poor little Spurs should just accept their position in the food-chain and get on with it - all the time we have that attitude we'll continue to be bent over by the bigger clubs and we'll never get to 'big club' status ourselves. I also find it bemusing that the old "he gave us 6 years service" keeps getting wheeled out as if he wasn't being paid during those years, and as if he wouldn't be half the player he is now if it wasn't for those 6 years training and learning his trade at Spurs - to me it's the equivalent of training as a doctor on the NHS and then expecting to feck off into private practise as soon as your qualified.

As far as I'm concerned we're all allowed an opinion, and just because mine appears to differ substantially from yours doesn't mean I should "FFS GET OVER IT!!", and I'm a bit naffed off that you can't accept it and feel the need to tell me that!

No-one, so far as I know, is saying we should just accept our position in the food chain so far as I am aware. I think what is being said is that we should use the enforced reminders of our place in the food chain to improve ourselves and move up the food chain so we don't face the same in the future. We used to get bitched by United, we used their money to improve, now we get bitched by a team in another country - and the idea, so far as I ascribe to it, is that we use the money we have screwed out of them to continue progressing and then, hopefully, we will elevate ourselves into a position were this doesn't happen, or happens only very rarely and then we can at least put up a few years resistance (like United did with Ronaldo, and the Goons with Fabregas).

That demonstrates the biggest problem - that these two clubs in Spain have somehow established themselves as the de facto biggest clubs in the World. It is hard for anyone to resist them - I really wish it wasn't so. In fact, I go into rants occasionally about how it is all a mirage, a trick played with mirrors - but professional footballers at the top of their profession and powers do seem to annoyingly disagree with me.

I disagree, totally, with your presentation that if we sell to these clubs we will never get to big club status. For a start, I have provided the example of United - where were they with the Modric and Bale bidding? Nowhere, because we have improved since they bullied us out of Berbatov. Secondly, I don't accept the myth that selling your best player is not showing ambition - it is what you do subsequently that shows the ambition or not.

I personally believe Bale, himself, would have been well served by staying another year, I was disappointed that he was a bit naughty, and him wanting to leave, in any way, shape or form, is disappointing for me...because I am a Spurs fan. But at least we can see pictures of him in a RM shirt when he was a kid, he isn't making that up, he was asked not to say anything publicly to allow us to get our targets in and he kept that, he has said he understands fully why Levy did it the way he did, he hasn't bitched about it. At the end of the day, we look at things differently as fans to the way players look at things. He has never pretended that he supported Spurs as a kid (though, as said, he does apparently seem to have an affinity to RM), and he certainly didn't behave like Modric and Berbatov - even if he did put pressure on the club.

Anyone who thinks I am trying to justify him has missed the point completely: My attitude is he's gone. He played for us, he played well, he wanted to leave, we have new players in now, support them. What is the point in venting about the a guy making the type of career decision none of us will ever understand or face a week after he left. I'm far more excited about Lamela and Ericksen than I am disappointed at Bale.

COYS

 

[Guntz]

'I still love all the Tottenham fans and hopefully one day (you never know) I could be back there.' That's what he said on his BT sport interview tonight, he genuinely does seem to have an affection for the club, whether he would come back though is another matter altogether. http://sport.bt.com/sportfootball/f...could-return-to-spurs-one-day-S11363831184784