Barkley must take less

[freeeki]

No, it's a question of PROPER SCOUTING. There are gems out there, and for peanuts too. You just have to find them. When we got Berba, we paid him 22k a week, and this was an amount he agreed to. When VDV came, he wasn't on 200k, was he. Modric, same thing.
My point is, you can fidn world class players for cheap. Just mould them, not take the easy route of getting the ready product.
Man utd created a generation of winners. So effectively, they had their best team (possibly ever) practically for FREE.

Only one of those transfers was completed within the last 8 years, so that's a bit of a reach.

Meanwhile back on Planet Reality, we've challenged for the Premier League for the past two seasons, which means it's time to step it up a notch if we want to actually go on and win things.

Otherwise you reach a situation like we did with Berbatov, Modric, Carrick, Bale etc where they eventually leave for more money and silverware once they've made a name for themselves.

 

[Lighty64]

Why does anyone who suggests that we spend a little rather than the tedious saga of our transfer policy, always get this Leeds treatment.
It's a fucking nonsense and I don't know why it keeps coming up, we are not going out of business mate so please stop banging on about it.

I kind of agree, but these same people have been banging on about our spending for years, and we have been way behind the income of those 5 above us for a very long time now.

Also it wouldn't be only spending a little. To of got Barkley when we wanted would of cost £50m to pay him £120k would mean, which would equal a massive increase in wages for the whole squad. To be honest now days with the manc clubs and Chelsea you can't spend little

This season we will be paying a heavy rent, and even though we know we will still have more attendance income will we be able to sell as much merchandise? Will we have a store near the ground? Do we know for certain the exact amount of income sell outs we will get? Do we know know the exact cost of our 4K per game losses last season? Do we know the full increase that we have been hit with when they mentioned the stadium cost went up wit brexit?

Yes Levy is meant to of said it won't effect our transfer policy, well it's not, we don't ever spend a lot, and every player that the teams above us in the finance league bar Arsenals free signing are on a lot higher wage than our team, and also prices are ridiculous (still blame Brian Clough)

Lets all hope that 1, Wembley doesn't effect us to badly, (even if at WHL I'd never expect 17W 2D again), 2, we don't suffer worse or even the same in injuries next season, even though 2 of our main starters of last season are injured already, and 3 we pick up some silverware

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

I personally feel Barkley would do more harm than good. Our options for the 3 attackers behind Kane are sufficient. Alli, Son, Lamela, Eriksen, Onomah. Barkley with his high wage demands will just end up causing more problems. I'd prefer to bring in young raw talent than self-entitled good for nothing egotistical garbage.

It also seems that fans think we are going to crumble this season. Good lord, if we don't back our boys who is? It's pretty disgusting, we lose one friendly and suddenly people are talking about us finishing 6th? I still feel our team is among the most balanced in the league. Our strength is our unity and belief. Without that we may as well be Oil - Money club.

To suggest that the three attackers behind Kane are "sufficient" is plain daft. We failed miserably in the CL and EL last season through lack of quality in depth.

Dele is suspended for the first three CL matches and Rose likely not back until October and on Sunday Poch said that Wanyama may miss the Newcastle game.

Barkley is an England International, has pace and would be a great addition to the squad that Poch would improve. With player sales nearing seventy million this is more than enough for Poch to strengthen the overall squad.

The Barkley signing has nothing to do with the City loss oh and by the way we also lost to Roma, so please get your facts right. No fan thinks we are going to "crumble" as you put it, but to improve and progress additions to the squad are needed. Even Stevie Wonder can see that.

 

[garryparkerschest]

I said a few weeks ago in jest that let's not do a repeat of Zaha and end up getting Sissoko, and end up getting a downgrade like Snodgrass (it was a joke).

But the longer we leave it,I could see something like that happening. Like in desperation getting Nathan Redmond or someone like him instead for the same amount of money.

I hope if Barkley's the one Poch wants, stop faffing around and get the deal done.

 

[whitesocks]

Everton is the right level for him, which isn't saying he is a bad player - but if we have to splash the cash, surely we are looking for players better(or have the potential to be better) than what we have now

Those who want a big price signing for the sake of it, have very short memories.

 

[Lilbaz]

I would love a mega rich billionaire to take us over and buy the biggest stars in football. They don't seem interested though.

At the moment i think we can pay a bit more on wages. Is barkley worth £120k a week? I wouldn't say so. In england wages are going through the roof but on the continent that is a huge wage for 90% of clubs.

There is a very real risk that the next tv deal will not be as much as the last. Sky have lost 19% of subscribers so have nbc (own the premier rights for america) bt are making a loss and even cl hasn't seen much of an increase in their customer base. There may be a lot of clubs in trouble in the next couple of years. They wont even be able to sell players due to the wages they are on (ade).
We have the new stadium to pay for. So that leaves us with huge debt that needs paying.

Yes leeds is an example of how things can go wrong. They went wrong for liverpool and chelsea too, liverpool was siezed by the banks. Both were bailed out by new owners though. Rangers, portsmouth, villa all fucked for overspending.
The extra money in the pl will only make teams safe if they don't spend it all.

That all said i think we will get a couple of players in.

 

[shelfboy68]

I said a few weeks ago in jest that let's not do a repeat of Zaha and end up getting Sissoko, and end up getting a downgrade like Snodgrass (it was a joke).

But the longer we leave it,I could see something like that happening. Like in desperation getting Nathan Redmond or someone like him instead for the same amount of money.

I hope if Barkley's the one Poch wants, stop faffing around and get the deal done.

But that should not be the only signing though but probably will be.

 

[double0]

Barkley I've heard mentioned could be the long term replacement for Alli.... I really hope not, but it's been said Alli could be a record signing in a few seasons.

 

[14/04/91]

I personally feel Barkley would do more harm than good. Our options for the 3 attackers behind Kane are sufficient. Alli, Son, Lamela, Eriksen, Onomah. Barkley with his high wage demands will just end up causing more problems. I'd prefer to bring in young raw talent than self-entitled good for nothing egotistical garbage.

They're not sufficient for a whole, competitive season. Son misses the first few weeks of the season, Ali is suspended in Europe, it's not fair to expect Onomah to play regularly and Lamela is Lamela.

We are lacking there.

 

[14/04/91]

Barkley I've heard mentioned could be the long term replacement for Alli.... I really hope not, but it's been said Alli could be a record signing in a few seasons.

Great point. If Alli continues on his current path will be a world class player and the 2 Spanish clubs, Munich and without a doubt the biggest English clubs could easily come in for him.
Not being defeatist, just realistic especially in the case of Barca or RM.

 

[guiltyparty]

But the spend a little hasnt really improved us in the past. In fact up until recent years havent we spent as much as Arsenal and havent had the success?

Arsenal spend more than £1m a week than us on wages and have done for years. So no.

And what is it with Spurs fans accepting that all the Bale money was wasted. Bought Eriksen, Lamela and Chadli, who was good and would still be at Spurs if he hadn't yearned for more game time.

Seriously just me who'd love to have Chadli back? I mean, what does that fucking say about our wide attacking options?

 

[double0]

Arsenal spend more than £1m a week than us on wages and have done for years. So no.

And what is it with Spurs fans accepting that all the Bale money was wasted. Bought Eriksen, Lamela and Chadli, who was good and would still be at Spurs if he hadn't yearned for more game time.

Seriously just me who'd love to have Chadli back? I mean, what does that fucking say about our wide attacking options?

I hate the term we wasted the Bale money...I 'm of the opinion the money was spent well Eriksen Lamela Chadli were good Coupe wasn't given enough time the media love sound bites

 

[steffenfreundlovesme]

The thing is there are perhaps 11 or 12 players at spurs who are better than Ross Barkley so we can't make him our highest paid player can we - he hasn't done anything to justify it.

 

[Shadydan]

The thing is there are perhaps 11 or 12 players at spurs who are better than Ross Barkley so we can't make him our highest paid player can we - he hasn't done anything to justify it.

Not sure it works like that especially since he turned down contracts from Everton who were supposedly offering more than what our highest paid players are on now.

 

[vigospur]

This story was rubbished by Barkley's people last week.
If he is only interested in the money he will get a better offer. But if he wants to get into the England running and work for a top coach we could be an option.
Probably not before deadline day though.

 

[parj]

I expect that Barkley will end up with Arsenal. He wants a move to London, but we won't pay him what he wants. Given that he previously turned down £100k per week with Everton, he's not going to sign for less with us.

Can see us slipping back to 6th or worse this season. It will be easy to blame the backward step on Wembley, but in truth, our approach for this season seems to be based on the expectation that the team will simply play as well as they did last season (and that the others won't improve) - can we really expect a repeat from Alderweireld, Wanyama, Son, Alli, Eriksen and Kane? For most, last season was their best ever and it would be incredibly optimistic to assume a repeat. Even that was only good enough for a distant 2nd to Chelsea (who have gotten better).

If we finish outside the top 3, then I can see the squad breaking up fairly quickly. Eriksen, Dembele, Alli will be sorely tempted to go somewhere else - for more money and a better chance of trophies. But hey, it was great to finish 2nd once, right?

Under Levy and ENIC, Tottenham will always be also-rans. Sure, we'll be OK, but we'll win as many trophies as Southampton or West Ham. Glory?!?! Not under this ownership.

Dude, how does Barkley improve our starting XI so much that without him we drop to 6th?

 

[jamesinashby]

I would love a mega rich billionaire to take us over and buy the biggest stars in football. They don't seem interested though.

At the moment i think we can pay a bit more on wages. Is barkley worth £120k a week? I wouldn't say so. In england wages are going through the roof but on the continent that is a huge wage for 90% of clubs.

There is a very real risk that the next tv deal will not be as much as the last. Sky have lost 19% of subscribers so have nbc (own the premier rights for america) bt are making a loss and even cl hasn't seen much of an increase in their customer base. There may be a lot of clubs in trouble in the next couple of years. They wont even be able to sell players due to the wages they are on (ade).
We have the new stadium to pay for. So that leaves us with huge debt that needs paying.

Yes leeds is an example of how things can go wrong. They went wrong for liverpool and chelsea too, liverpool was siezed by the banks. Both were bailed out by new owners though. Rangers, portsmouth, villa all fucked for overspending.
The extra money in the pl will only make teams safe if they don't spend it all.

That all said i think we will get a couple of players in.

You have raised a very interesting point, Lilbaz. I would have thought that THFC would have been right up there at the top for a mega rich buyer. Why has that not happened? The only thing that I can think of is that any enquiries to buy us out have been rebuffed as the current owners have no intention of selling.

Does anyone else have any ideas?

COYS

 

[diamondlight]

I expect that Barkley will end up with Arsenal. He wants a move to London, but we won't pay him what he wants. Given that he previously turned down £100k per week with Everton, he's not going to sign for less with us.

Can see us slipping back to 6th or worse this season. It will be easy to blame the backward step on Wembley, but in truth, our approach for this season seems to be based on the expectation that the team will simply play as well as they did last season (and that the others won't improve) - can we really expect a repeat from Alderweireld, Wanyama, Son, Alli, Eriksen and Kane? For most, last season was their best ever and it would be incredibly optimistic to assume a repeat. Even that was only good enough for a distant 2nd to Chelsea (who have gotten better).

If we finish outside the top 3, then I can see the squad breaking up fairly quickly. Eriksen, Dembele, Alli will be sorely tempted to go somewhere else - for more money and a better chance of trophies. But hey, it was great to finish 2nd once, right?

Under Levy and ENIC, Tottenham will always be also-rans. Sure, we'll be OK, but we'll win as many trophies as Southampton or West Ham. Glory?!?! Not under this ownership.

Your post seems to have elicited the full range of human emotions.

 

[parj]

You have raised a very interesting point, Lilbaz. I would have thought that THFC would have been right up there at the top for a mega rich buyer. Why has that not happened? The only thing that I can think of is that any enquiries to buy us out have been rebuffed as the current owners have no intention of selling.

Does anyone else have any ideas?

COYS

Once the stadium is in place and the sponsorships then the club will have an asking price. But I don't think it will be a make a bid thing, it will still be their project to make Spurs great again

 

[Jonesey]

I personally feel Barkley would do more harm than good. Our options for the 3 attackers behind Kane are sufficient. Alli, Son, Lamela, Eriksen, Onomah. Barkley with his high wage demands will just end up causing more problems. I'd prefer to bring in young raw talent than self-entitled good for nothing egotistical garbage.

It also seems that fans think we are going to crumble this season. Good lord, if we don't back our boys who is? It's pretty disgusting, we lose one friendly and suddenly people are talking about us finishing 6th? I still feel our team is among the most balanced in the league. Our strength is our unity and belief. Without that we may as well be Oil - Money club.

Agree with your sentiment on Barkley, but can't believe you've mentioned Onomah as a "sufficient" attacking player behind Kane. We defo need to bring someone in to add more creativity to our midfield considering Lamela and Dembele's injury problems and Eriksen's tendency to go missing for periods of the season.