Ben Davies

[Spurs 1961]

First off let me say I have not read the thread. Davies seems to be improving with every game and I do think he looks a better aall round player than Rose though atm it is a toss up for me between the two

 

[chrissivad]

Cheers, Chris.

So the OS can do heatmaps but not fitness updates?

Im not sure its them that are doing it
Think they have someone else getting these sort of stats. You could find them on other sites, but they seem to have stopped doing them now. Not sure if the OS have any exclusive rights to them and stopped others using it...

 

[thinktank]

#1

 

[parklane1]

I posted earlier this season that I believed that Davies would be our Num 1 LB before the end of the season and I still believe that, he is younger then Rose and ( imo) is the better player.

 

[Norwegian Spurs fan]

I posted earlier this season that I believed that Davies would be our Num 1 LB before the end of the season and I still believe that, he is younger the Rose and ( imo) is the better player.

I agree with you on this

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I posted earlier this season that I believed that Davies would be our Num 1 LB before the end of the season and I still believe that, he is younger the Rose and ( imo) is the better player.

He doesn't have the physical attributes of Rose but I think he is a better defender and makes better decisions on the ball. He seems a little inhibited going forward at present but I think that will improve with more game. The more I watch him the more I understand how he kept Taylor out of Swansea's team. A very steady player.

 

[parklane1]

He doesn't have the physical attributes of Rose but I think he is a better defender and makes better decisions on the ball. He seems a little inhibited going forward at present but I think that will improve with more game. The more I watch him the more I understand how he kept Taylor out of Swansea's team. A very steady player.

Yep, as I said he is only 21 and will improve once he settles, as for Rose he played a couple decent games early doors but started to look dodgy again ( out of position, wrong side of his opponent) before he got Injured and Davies came in. He is the one who should play now.

 

[SEANSPURS1975]

Hopefully Davies will get a long run in the side. Really think he will turn into a quality left back. Would have him over Rose any day of the week.

 

[Jody]

Really impressed me lately. He's come out on top in a few heavy tussles, hasn't put a foot wrong imo.

 

[SpurSince57]

Yep, as I said he is only 21 and will improve once he settles, as for Rose he played a couple decent games early doors but started to look dodgy again ( out of position, wrong side of his opponent) before he got Injured and Davies came in. He is the one who should play now.

Yes, after that initial clear improvement in Rose's game early season, there were equally clear signs that he was regressing before his injury. I've grown steadily more impressed with Davies.

 

[beats1]

He doesn't have the physical attributes of Rose but I think he is a better defender and makes better decisions on the ball. He seems a little inhibited going forward at present but I think that will improve with more game. The more I watch him the more I understand how he kept Taylor out of Swansea's team. A very steady player.

Taylor never really got his fitness back at swansea tbf

Yep, as I said he is only 21 and will improve once he settles, as for Rose he played a couple decent games early doors but started to look dodgy again ( out of position, wrong side of his opponent) before he got Injured and Davies came in. He is the one who should play now.

The reason Rose has looked the wrong side of the opposition winger is because there is literally no one in front of him and we need our fullbacks to overlap. With him being so high up, the lb area gets exposed and the striker and winger go in to that space to create a chance.

Poch clearly wants his LB to push up and him being the wrong side will continue to happen as long as we don't have any width

 

[parklane1]

Yes, after that initial clear improvement in Rose's game early season, there were equally clear signs that he was regressing before his injury. I've grown steadily more impressed with Davies.

Same here, Rose did pick his game up for a few games ( he had to really as he was poor last season), but he returned to the basic errors he always made in previous seasons.

 

[parklane1]

Taylor never really got his fitness back at swansea tbf

The reason Rose has looked the wrong side of the opposition winger is because there is literally no one in front of him and we need our fullbacks to overlap. With him being so high up, the lb area gets exposed and the striker and winger go in to that space to create a chance.

Poch clearly wants his LB to push up and him being the wrong side will continue to happen as long as we don't have any width

There may be some truth in that but the main reason is he is not a LB and his starting and recovery position is all wrong, he can no tackle ( as he is in the wrong position to do so) and that is why he lunges into so many tackles, he is never aware of what is happening behind him and his reading of the game is poor.

I have sympathy for him because he is not a natural FB but he has played there for a few seasons and he still has the same faults in his game.

 

[bobbof]

The big reason I want Davies to continue playing instead of Rose, is his crosses. The only player in our squad with a decent cross.

 

[SpurSince57]

Taylor never really got his fitness back at swansea tbf

The reason Rose has looked the wrong side of the opposition winger is because there is literally no one in front of him and we need our fullbacks to overlap. With him being so high up, the lb area gets exposed and the striker and winger go in to that space to create a chance.

Poch clearly wants his LB to push up and him being the wrong side will continue to happen as long as we don't have any width

Yet Lee and BAE were similarly exposed in their time and coped a good deal better (and BAE was never the most assiduous when it came to tracking back). Arguably they pushed forward less than Rose, but doesn't what you say reveal a fundamental problem with Pochettino's set-up and use of inverted wingers?

 

[beats1]

There may be some truth in that but the main reason is he is not a LB and his starting and recovery position is all wrong, he can no tackle ( as he is in the wrong position to do so) and that is why he lunges into so many tackles, he is never aware of what is happening behind him and his reading of the game is poor.

I have sympathy for him because he is not a natural FB but he has played there for a few seasons and he still has the same faults in his game.

I disagree, having seen him since he signed, he isn't a winger. He is a fullback. He stopped being a winger the day he got a really bad injury.

His tackling is really good but his rashness hurts him alot and often makes a good tackle look bad. However the aggressiveness is good imo and like cashley but he needs time to develop. It is worth noting Davies is just a more experienced LB. Rose is very inconsistent but under the right manager he can be good.

Yesterday we missed not having a LB and RB that bombed on. When we don't have any width from the wings, the other team will stay narrow without a worry in the world.

Yet Lee and BAE were similarly exposed in their time and coped a good deal better (and BAE was never the most assiduous when it came to tracking back). Arguably they pushed forward less than Rose, but doesn't what you say reveal a fundamental problem with Pochettino's set-up and use of inverted wingers?

They were helped by having a winger in front of them rose had chadli and eriksen who cut inside. We also don't have a DM like we did with Parker, Wilson, Sandro, Davids and etc.

It does but scoring is more important than keeping the position for the back four, simply because other teams are setting up shop and telling us to do their best

 

[parklane1]

I disagree, having seen him since he signed, he isn't a winger. He is a fullback. He stopped being a winger the day he got a really bad injury.

His tackling is really good but his rashness hurts him alot and often makes a good tackle look bad. However the aggressiveness is good imo and like cashley but he needs time to develop. It is worth noting Davies is just a more experienced LB. Rose is very inconsistent but under the right manager he can be good.

He is not a FB that is the problem, he is not because of the reasons I have already stated and its pointless me repeating them as you think otherwise. I guess we will find out who plays there by the end of the season and as I have said ( imo) it will be Davies, I also think that it is no coincidence that since Davies has been in the team Jan has looked better as he does not have to cover Rose on his walkabouts.

 

[beats1]

He is no a FB that is the problem, he is not because of the reasons I have already stated and its pointless me repeating them as you think otherwise. I guess we will find out who plays there by the end of the season and as I have said ( imo) it will be Davies, I also think that it is no coincidence that since Davies has been in the team Jan has looked better as he does not have to cover Rose on his walkabouts.

Rose's walkabouts are clearly something instructed to him by the manager

Jan may of looked better because the fact Bentaleb has offered alot of protection to that back than Stambouli and Capoue offered

 

[parklane1]

Rose's walkabouts are clearly something instructed to him by the manager

Jan may of looked better because the fact Bentaleb has offered alot of protection to that back than Stambouli and Capoue offered

We are going around in circles so we will have to see who is the num 1 at the seasons end.

 

[beats1]

We are going around in circles so we will have to see who is the num 1 at the seasons end.

Whatever but you cant blame a player for going for walkies when the team has no width and poch wants his LB to push very high up as a result.

At southampton, shaw did the same since Lallana and Rodriguez would always cut in