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Bentley's decision to throw water over Harry cost him his Spurs career

beats1

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Come on mate. He might be a nice guy but he was never one of our stand out players. He came in and played when Lennon was injured the season we got Champions league. He performed okay but no where near the level to be first choice.
I think he meant this preseason, mate and to be fair Bentley did well
 

beats1

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He wasn't quick enough to be played out wide

And wasn't athletic enough to be a central midfielder

Perhaps he could have played the number 9 role?
Must be better than Defoe playing the lone man role but think he could of been a good CM in a midfield 3
 

glking

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interesting rationalisation. and here i always reckoned his decision to be a crap footballer is what's jeopardised his career. my apologies to mr bentley for jumping to conclusions.
 

mattstev2000

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He's not a particularly good footballer which is probably why he primarily wasn't picked but HR did seem to be really lacking a sense of humour about himself so it wouldn't surprise me if the water prank didn't help. It was one of the reasons I found it difficult to take to HR.
 

dontcallme

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Not buying that the water prank was that big a deal.

With the big men up-front I thought he'd excel at Birmingham but once again nothing came of it.

Bentley talks a good talk but he's had chances at Spurs and on loan to show what he can do and he continually fails to impress.
 

ultimateloner

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Bentley was more productive than Lennon in his prime 2 years at Blackburn. He was meant to be an upgrade on Lennon; i had goal/assits stats that suggests it. So dont' say he's not a good footballer. I think there's something in him still; you can train fitness but you can't train technique/delivery anywhere near as effectively (as Lennon's lack of progress shows).
 

jamesc0le

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this is hilarious. i thought that bentley's influence in the dressing room was never in question. the banter man.

says more about old folk not trusting young folk than anything else..

only thing he ever did wrong was dig the knife into juande ramos.:troll: that was ridiculous so early in his spurs career..
 

mark87

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He wasn't quick enough to be played out wide

And wasn't athletic enough to be a central midfielder

Perhaps he could have played the number 9 role?

I'm not sure about that, all the attempted headers from crosses and all the knock downs to teammates would have messed his hair up :)
 

yanno

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He wasn't quick enough to be played out wide

And wasn't athletic enough to be a central midfielder

I believe the reason Bentley can't play his supposedly favoured Number 10 position is a fundamental lack of vision and footballing intelligence.

I agree that Bentley's lack of a burst of acceleration to take him past an opponent is a problem, but Beckham is not much faster.

Both have excellent delivery.

Both have extensive off field interests.

The difference is that Beckham has a football brain and Bentley doesn't. Beckham can see and even anticipate movement and put his teammates in. Bentley thinks kicking a ball from a penthouse into a skip is enough.
 

Bobbins

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I believe the reason Bentley can't play his supposedly favoured Number 10 position is a fundamental lack of vision and footballing intelligence.

The difference is that Beckham has a football brain and Bentley doesn't. Beckham can see and even anticipate movement and put his teammates in. Bentley thinks kicking a ball from a penthouse into a skip is enough.

This is just so completely untrue. If there's one aspect of his game that could be key to him improving and impressing it's his natural reading of the game. In fact part of his problems at Spurs have been based on the fact that when he has played he's been in crappy Europa or League Cup sides where he hasn't had the really great players alongside him to interact with.

He was highly thought of at Norwich for example not because of his crossing ability but for his creative qualities, and his ability to spot a pass.

I don't see why he couldn't be backup for Lennon and Sigurdsson. He's still a decent player and has a good footballing brain - better than Lennon, and a great strike on him.

Such a waste, for him and us. Partly his fault, partly Harry treating him poorly, and partly bad luck.
 

yanno

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Bobbins - not surprisingly, I respectfully disagree.

Whenever I've seen Bentley get his head up, he tries to chip the keeper from 30 yards or shoot from ridiculous distance when there are better options.

VDV and Modric were always aware of their teammates' movement, and would use it to put them in or to distract defenders and buy time and space for themselves. My abiding memory of Bentley at Spurs is of trying to do too much by himself or throwing in an aimless cross.

When he was at his most effective at Blackburn, Mark Hughes basically had him crossing the ball early to hungry strikers. A simple gameplan where he didn't have to think too much.

Bentley wanted Wenger to play him as a Number 10 or second striker and the Whinger sold him.
 

walworthyid

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He is a very talented player but has never really adjusted to the idea that he might have to actually work at it. Players like him are ten-a-penny in terms of talent, but it is the ones who can add a work ethic to their games that make it at the top, His biggest problem is that "luxury" players no longer really exist at the top level. He couldn't go and be what he was at blackburn now because those teams all rely on grafters to stay up.

VDV has ten times his talent and works his socks off every minute of every game. He should have learned from his example!
 

parklane1

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He could talk the talk but could never walk the walk, his opinion of himself was always better then his actual ability and it seems he still believes that.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Yanno and Parklane are spot on. Sometimes he'd be in great positions with good options and he'd waste it by taking three touches too many.

It was a stupid purchase by Comolli, as he didn't fit the strikers or system we played at the time.
 

Mikegold

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I believe the reason Bentley can't play his supposedly favoured Number 10 position is a fundamental lack of vision and footballing intelligence.

I agree that Bentley's lack of a burst of acceleration to take him past an opponent is a problem, but Beckham is not much faster.

Both have excellent delivery.

Both have extensive off field interests.

The difference is that Beckham has a football brain and Bentley doesn't. Beckham can see and even anticipate movement and put his teammates in. Bentley thinks kicking a ball from a penthouse into a skip is enough.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTD6TVaKIqY

I don't know how to imbed that but check out 1.46m (I do actually agree with this point but I randomly saw this video 2 days ago)
 

MattyP

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For the record, it also wasn't his fault that he refused to play for England Under 21's, apparently the other players heard that a flash Bentley was turning up and he got fatigued in the 0-60 race.

He had his moments, but his ego exceeded his application.
 

ultimateloner

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For the record, it also wasn't his fault that he refused to play for England Under 21's, apparently the other players heard that a flash Bentley was turning up and he got fatigued in the 0-60 race.

He had his moments, but his ego exceeded his application.

I'm not doubting that he has an unrealistic assement of himself.
What i'm doubting is that you can't therefore say he is totally wortheless; he isn't. Past stats have shown that he has what it takes to exceed Lennon, in delivery terms (goals/assits). There is no reason why AvB can't re-integrate him into the squad after he has proven he is still interested to compete in football.

You don't want to waste a 16m asset afterall. If AvB could salvage Bentley's career he has already saved us enough costs to continue employment EVEN if we don't amke CL.
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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This is just so completely untrue. If there's one aspect of his game that could be key to him improving and impressing it's his natural reading of the game. In fact part of his problems at Spurs have been based on the fact that when he has played he's been in crappy Europa or League Cup sides where he hasn't had the really great players alongside him to interact with.

He was highly thought of at Norwich for example not because of his crossing ability but for his creative qualities, and his ability to spot a pass.

I don't see why he couldn't be backup for Lennon and Sigurdsson. He's still a decent player and has a good footballing brain - better than Lennon, and a great strike on him.

Such a waste, for him and us. Partly his fault, partly Harry treating him poorly, and partly bad luck.

I'm with yanno on this. To blame his performances on being in Europa or League Cup sides is completely unfair. I don't think he has half the brain of Lennon on a football pitch to be honest. Bentley has great ability but he never seemed to connect his brain and his feet when playing for us. The number of times he shot instead of passing or passed instead of shot always left me frustrated watching him.
 
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