Berbatov's comments...

[polski sklep]

Surrounded by better players surely means you can hide more not less. At times for us the rest of the Spurs team hide behind Berbatov so it's an odd thing to say.

He did leave for the right reason but he left in rubbish way and now shows no remorse for the fans who adhored him during this terrible time. I would love to think he frets and feels guilty and wishes more than anythign that we turn it around but it's dawning on me that this man probably doesn't hink like this. I wonder how keane is feeling?

Many of our more vocal fans spent the majority of last season (and parts of his first) under-appreciating and insulting him.

If we had a player who spent his time focusing on their previous club, I'm sure they'd be criticised for not being fully focused.

Has anyone actually interviewed him about our situation? What's he s'posed to do - call a press conference?

His comments are too ambiguous to fully comprehend but it always seems easier to fall on a critical conclusion.

 

[Midostouch]

I still haven't watched him play for United or seen his goals and certainly won't watch or read any interviews with him. I'm like that with exes too - can't bear to see them again! On December 13th I'll be the one with a bucket over my head.

 

[teddyboy]

That son of a bitch broke my heart in the way that he treated us. I used to hold him in such high regard, even though he was one lazy arse mother fucker of a striker. It just seems that every time you see anything in the media about football it seems to open up old wounds for us poor old Tottenham fans.


When Berba returned to play against his old club I was inspired but his reaction when he scored against them, I really thought he was the kind of player who would set a new standard for how player should act.


At the end of the day he should have asked Man Utd to do the decent thing, to conduct themselves in a dece, oh fuck it I can’t be bothered….

**shoves keyboard off the desk and storms out of the office**

 

[nidge]

Many of our more vocal fans spent the majority of last season (and parts of his first) under-appreciating and insulting him.

If we had a player who spent his time focusing on their previous club, I'm sure they'd be criticised for not being fully focused.

Has anyone actually interviewed him about our situation? What's he s'posed to do - call a press conference?

His comments are too ambiguous to fully comprehend but it always seems easier to fall on a critical conclusion.

I can remember a minority of idiots that don't really know much about football being critical of him and a few people wishing he could appear to work harder but I certainly don't remember to many insulting him.

Oh and you tag under your name, what's the point in having it? If you dislike spurs fans so much why are you on a Spurs forum?

 

[polski sklep]

I can remember a minority of idiots that don't really know much about football being critical of him and a few people wishing he could appear to work harder but I certainly don't remember to many insulting him.

Oh and you tag under your name, what's the point in having it? If you dislike spurs fans so much why are you on a Spurs forum?

That's why I said vocal - those most vocal are usually most hateful.

I know them better than any so they wind me up the most, although, therefore it could just be football fans in general.

It stems from my annoyance of hearing insults aimed regularly towards our own players, notably Bent, Jenas, Zokora and BAE. Obviously it doesn't apply to all but a certain amount are considerably critical, whinging, pessimistic, doom-mongering, hate-filled people.

 

[Damian99]

Had he not been a lazy twat and atleast put in 100% effort for the cause untill he was sold, then fine. But he didn't do that, infact he ruined team morale with his fucking arm flapping, its a wonder he didn't take off(well he did to Old Trafford), and yes he is a first class PRIZE **** imo.

 

[CosmicHotspur]

Just as well he's gone then really, as we only want players at the Lane who are willing to give everything 100%.

At least Robbie Keane did that while he was with us, it's not really in his nature to do anything else and I, for one, would be happy to see him return to Spurs at some point.

 

[beals]

Can be bothered with Berba anymore, he's a ManU player and irrelevant the the Spurs now. I don't particularly give a shit what he says or doesn't say. COYS

 

[Bobbins]

Many of our more vocal fans spent the majority of last season (and parts of his first) under-appreciating and insulting him.

If we had a player who spent his time focusing on their previous club, I'm sure they'd be criticised for not being fully focused.

Has anyone actually interviewed him about our situation? What's he s'posed to do - call a press conference?

His comments are too ambiguous to fully comprehend but it always seems easier to fall on a critical conclusion.

See this pisses me off. This massively, hugely pisses me right the fuck off you know.

This idea that Spurs fans 'under-appreciated' poor little Dimi. We paid his fucking 40k a week! 40k of Spurs fans' money a week in order to run around a pitch playing football for 90 minutes maybe once or twice a week. Is that under appreciating someone? Is this a fucking joke? Has the whole world gone absolutely mental and forgotten that ALL THIS BLOKE DOES IS PLAY FOOTBALL?

I got royally pissed off with Berba last season and I had a very good reason. He simply did absolutely bollock all in far too many games.

If anything, Berbatov massively 'under-appreciated' his fans at Spurs. He did literally nothing in entire games last season, and despite having his name sung, despite his name on the back of shirts, despite 35,000 turning up and paying a fortune every week to cheer him and his colleagues on, he still COULDN'T BE BOTHERED to put in the effort to run a few yards or fight for a tackle.

The insult, the incredible insult you put forward that he was under-appreciated by Spurs fans is frankly offensive and you're just damn lucky you've said it on an internet forum and not in the stands at the Lane, because you've just personally insulted about half a million very passionate Spurs fans. The very point of getting annoyed with Berbatov not putting in an ounce of effort was because Spurs fans knew better than anyone else in the country just how good he could be when he could be bothered! It was he that under appreciated us, not the other way around.

 

[PLTuck]

Just confirms what I've thought for a long time. We were just a stepping stone.

If he wanted to play for Utd, he should not have signed a 4 year contract with another club. Fact is, he was willing to screw over another club to get what he wanted. Even if we had CL footy, I think he'd still have left.

 

[Rackybear]

See this pisses me off. This massively, hugely pisses me right the fuck off you know.

This idea that Spurs fans 'under-appreciated' poor little Dimi. We paid his fucking 40k a week! 40k of Spurs fans' money a week in order to run around a pitch playing football for 90 minutes maybe once or twice a week. Is that under appreciating someone? Is this a fucking joke? Has the whole world gone absolutely mental and forgotten that ALL THIS BLOKE DOES IS PLAY FOOTBALL?

I got royally pissed off with Berba last season and I had a very good reason. He simply did absolutely bollock all in far too many games.

If anything, Berbatov massively 'under-appreciated' his fans at Spurs. He did literally nothing in entire games last season, and despite having his name sung, despite his name on the back of shirts, despite 35,000 turning up and paying a fortune every week to cheer him and his colleagues on, he still COULDN'T BE BOTHERED to put in the effort to run a few yards or fight for a tackle.

The insult, the incredible insult you put forward that he was under-appreciated by Spurs fans is frankly offensive and you're just damn lucky you've said it on an internet forum and not in the stands at the Lane, because you've just personally insulted about half a million very passionate Spurs fans. The very point of getting annoyed with Berbatov not putting in an ounce of effort was because Spurs fans knew better than anyone else in the country just how good he could be when he could be bothered! It was he that under appreciated us, not the other way around.

lol, wow, if ever their was an overeaction - I think I may have just read it.

Its fair enough to say, we pay this this this a week, and fill up the stadium and pay his wages and what not to show our appreciation, but be honest to yourself - this is not really what he is talking or what this is about. We mean the appreciation fans showed him as a player from the stands, did they cheer, did they boo, or did they just stay silent?

I think far too many spurs fans are over critical about his departure. He never actually came out and said a bad word about us, he never stated his desire to 'leave' the club, although you could tell it was kind of obvious he would have rather played for man utd. But the point is, people are judging the guy based on press reports and an apparent career im being bosy language experts in which they can seemingly tell his heart is not at the club or that he is not putting in any effort.

He defends corners for man utd the same way he did for spurs.

He fails to chase down defenders for man utd the same way he did for spurs.

At the moment, he has hardly showed much emotion for a player who is scoring at the biggest club in the world, I saw better reactions and celebrations whilst he was at tottenham.

Is he still a villan, does this now mean that his heart is not at united and he wants to play at the REAL biggest club in the world in madrid?

I guess some people will never get over it :shrug:

 

[Petyr]

Surrounded by better players surely means you can hide more not less. At times for us the rest of the Spurs team hide behind Berbatov so it's an odd thing to say.

He did leave for the right reason but he left in rubbish way and now shows no remorse for the fans who adhored him during this terrible time. I would love to think he frets and feels guilty and wishes more than anythign that we turn it around but it's dawning on me that this man probably doesn't hink like this. I wonder how keane is feeling?

Fans don't understand that he was forced to leave in a rubbish way. It was clear that:

1) He has the ability to play for the biggest clubs.
2) The biggest clubs were interested in signing him.
3) He wanted to play for one of the biggest clubs, in order to fulfil his potential as a player.

The club had to accept this and sell him immediately after the end of the season, provided that Levy stopped his transfer to Man U last summer (2007). Instead the club and fans thought that it would be better to keep him against his will by asking for too much money and making the negotiatins with Man U impossible. Thing is, had Berbatov played at his best till the very end, Levy wouldn't sell him: "Sorry Berba, but we need you in order to be able to challenge for a top 4 place". If Berbatov had behaved in the way fans expected, he wouldn't be sold. Simple. (Clearly, he couldn't tell Ferguson: "Pay what Levy wants and pay it now if you want me." He wasn't in position to press Man U to pay, he could afford only to put pressure on Levy to sell. And the only way to put pressure on Levy to sell him was to show lack of commitment.)

He agreed to come here when Spurs were 4th, i.e. before the Wham game. After he came here he saw that Spurs weren't ready to compete with the biggest clubs in England and Ferguson showed him again that Man U want him. Why would he snub Man U? Why would he sacrifice his dreams to play at the highest level? He wasn't born as a Spurs fan, was he?


He used Spurs as a stepping stone? Every great player can use every great club as a stepping stone. For Ronaldo Man U are a stepping stone to Real Madrid. If Arsenal fail to win to biggest tropheys in the next seasons, the likes of Fabregas and Adebayor would use them as a stepping stone to go to Real or Barca or Milan.

Berbatov was signed for 11m and sold for 31m. This implies that he did a tremendous job for Spurs and the club made a huge profit. In the last two seasons, he was second only to Ronaldo in terms of goals plus assists. Yet, some people think it is the most normal thing in the world to hate him. I don't think that this is normal at all. Did he leave for Arsenal? Did he leave on free? If all new signings would do a similar job, Spurs would win the CL within 5 years.

Finally, it's perfectly true that many many Spurs fans under-appreciated Berbatov's performances. Remember how many fans were convinced that Ferguson wouldn't sign him because he was lazy, his attitude was bad etc. There were serious doubts that people outside Spurs rate him highly enough to pay big money for him etc. Remember how many time DC_Boy had to defend him against criticisms. And remember that DC_Boy was one of the very few who defended him against criticisms. Accordingly, Berbatov got only 10% from the votes for Spurs player of the season: as many as a certain Malbranque who was sold because Ramos didn't find him good enough. :shrug: And Keane got 60% because he was taken to be... Mr. Tottenham. Ironically, Mr Tottenham left only 2 months after he declared his desire to retire at Tottenham. :shrug: But he didn't treat the club badly. It was only Berbatov who was a PRIZE ....:stupid:

 

[The Apprentice]

I'm amazed that some of you are surprised by these comments.

If you had two eyes and could squint far enough to see the pitch from the stand, then you would have noticed this after about ten minutes of his first game for us.

 

[Stoof]

lol, wow, if ever their was an overeaction - I think I may have just read it.

Its fair enough to say, we pay this this this a week, and fill up the stadium and pay his wages and what not to show our appreciation, but be honest to yourself - this is not really what he is talking or what this is about. We mean the appreciation fans showed him as a player from the stands, did they cheer, did they boo, or did they just stay silent?

I think far too many spurs fans are over critical about his departure. He never actually came out and said a bad word about us, he never stated his desire to 'leave' the club, although you could tell it was kind of obvious he would have rather played for man utd. But the point is, people are judging the guy based on press reports and an apparent career im being bosy language experts in which they can seemingly tell his heart is not at the club or that he is not putting in any effort.

Exactly. By the fact he didn't put in as much effort as he does now at United!!

He defends corners for man utd the same way he did for spurs.

He fails to chase down defenders for man utd the same way he did for spurs.

I disagree with that. Mainly because he was seriously giving the Celtic defenders mid-week a hell of a going over - and last week too.

At the moment, he has hardly showed much emotion for a player who is scoring at the biggest club in the world, I saw better reactions and celebrations whilst he was at tottenham.

Is he still a villan, does this now mean that his heart is not at united and he wants to play at the REAL biggest club in the world in madrid?

I guess some people will never get over it :shrug:

You miss the point, of course, that Bobbins is 100% spot on for all of this.

I and pretty much all of the 35,000 sang his name over and over again last season. And to be honest, if he didn't do something that we would expect of any player, I dare say he got off more lightly than anyone else in a Spurs shirt just because we thought he was that special.

Under-appreciated is, as Bobbins says, an insult.

 

[Azrael]

lol, wow, if ever their was an overeaction - I think I may have just read it.

Its fair enough to say, we pay this this this a week, and fill up the stadium and pay his wages and what not to show our appreciation, but be honest to yourself - this is not really what he is talking or what this is about. We mean the appreciation fans showed him as a player from the stands, did they cheer, did they boo, or did they just stay silent?

I think far too many spurs fans are over critical about his departure. He never actually came out and said a bad word about us, he never stated his desire to 'leave' the club, although you could tell it was kind of obvious he would have rather played for man utd. But the point is, people are judging the guy based on press reports and an apparent career im being bosy language experts in which they can seemingly tell his heart is not at the club or that he is not putting in any effort.

He defends corners for man utd the same way he did for spurs.

He fails to chase down defenders for man utd the same way he did for spurs.

At the moment, he has hardly showed much emotion for a player who is scoring at the biggest club in the world, I saw better reactions and celebrations whilst he was at tottenham.

Is he still a villan, does this now mean that his heart is not at united and he wants to play at the REAL biggest club in the world in madrid?

I guess some people will never get over it :shrug:

An overreaction maybe, but I still think its true. I don't think he's the same at Man U. He's more enthusiastic and visually less moody on the pitch, talks about the club with greater respect and affection and is clearly happier.

What can be said about Berbatov is that he was less than professional. Here is a man who did indeed spend many games last year in the background, but more importantly, spent the pre-season and start of a season behaving like a sulky little girl. Not only is that disrespectful to the club and fans, but is seriosuly unprofessional....and before you tell me it was the press giving him a hard time and nothing was proven, you don't think he's behaviour had nothing to do with the "Dimitar isn't in the right frame of mind to play" comments coming from the club.

Other players have wanted out but I can recall very few, if any, who behaved in such a way. Even Campbell, despite the disgraceful way the arsehole left us, still put in reasonable performances towards the end.

 

[Lanh]

Face it, he gave 100% for us in two matches in his entire time at the Lane.

20mins v the Mighty Fulham after Mido/Keane (Mido was having a stormer), had vritually killed off the match and the following match against Bolton!

That was it!

The twat will burn more calories on the pitch playing for Man Utd by Christmas than he did in his years at Spurs!

 

[Michey]

Just as well he's gone then really, as we only want players at the Lane who are willing to give everything 100%.

As long as he did his job - to score goals - he could give 50%. Mostly it meant goals and assists. Works for me.

 

[SoulDog]

Can you blame the fella? He's at a better club now with great players around him doing all the hard work, he dont need to work hard chasing back etc. Man u are playing some lovely stuff, and berbatov is playing very well. All the goals are coming from him. All our ex strikers are on form and scoring!!

 

[Paula]

I think the blood pressures are so high still on this topic because of the position we now find our club in. We feel as if we were jilted at the altar. Berbatov only wanted to try the Prem out at Spurs, once he knew he could cut it he wanted off. Obvious for all to see. Yes a 50% Berbatov is better than most but the way he went and I dont think we can be deceived by making his agent the villain in all this - he was being operated like a puppet by Berbatov and the tapping had been going on for over a year. He only gave 100% at Wembley - I did not miss a game at WHL last season so unless my eyesight is going and watching Steed nearly burst a gut every game, I do not think my eyes were deceiving me.

 

[hybridsoldier]

Just as well he's gone then really, as we only want players at the Lane who are willing to give everything 100%.

At least Robbie Keane did that while he was with us, it's not really in his nature to do anything else and I, for one, would be happy to see him return to Spurs at some point.

i ofen dream of Martin Jol returning, and his first signing next summer.......................

robbie keane

dont matter how much, he never ever gave elss thn 110% for us. if he gets booed in the CC and league games.....ill be very upset