BIG CHANGES?!

[lukespurs7]

It's madness I tell you! One moment we could do no wrong now we are a laughing stock.

A few months back we were 3rd, going well in the FA Cup and planning for a world class manager to take over from Harry after he had secured us CL football and 3rd place and won us the FA Cup, we'd also start work on our new Stadium with qualification for the champions league once again being the final financial push we needed. The squad was perfect everything was perfect.

Our team was class:
Friedel- Experienced pro and could do no wrong

Walker- Most exciting RB in the league, what a player.
Kaboul & Gallas- on fire, nothing was getting past them
BAE- Improving year on year what a left back, not many better around

Lennon-Finding his old form, terrorising full-backs
Modric-£40mil more like £100mil, gliding through games move over Xavi/Inesta
Parker-Perfect foil for Modric, best CM combo in the league,what a buy.
Bale- getting better every season, best Left winger in the world

VDV-Class, lucky to have someone like him at our club
Adebeyor- Goals,assists,pace,hold up play-complete striker.

As a team we were passing and moving with pace, accuracy it was like watching Barcelona,Brazil,whoever a dream,nothing or no-one could stop us, 9 wins in a row, Mouriniho will join us but Harry is god and if he stays then great, Hazard and Remy and Venthorgen will join us,Modric and Bale will re-sign contracts. TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR KINGS OF LONDON.

LOOK AT US NOW!!!!
What a joke.
Friedel- 'He's Too old, doesn't come for crosses doesn't move well to shots and free-kicks

Walker-Can't cross, can't defend
Kaboul & Gallas/King- My nan could score against these 2 both finished.
BAE- Liability

Lennon-No end product, wasteful, no threat
Modric- £40mil pha £4mil if we are lucky, what has he actually done over the past 10 games.
Parker- Over-rated, can't pass etc
Bale- Stay on the left...STAY ON THE LEFT...!

VDV-Can't score, poor free-kicks and corners
Ade- Go back to City doesn't fancy it anymore, no touch, doesn't score enough etc.

Funny how things change isn't it, our defence is about as solid as a featherbed, we don't look like scoring if we played for 900minutes, defensively poor, no creativity or fluidity in midfield, strikers don't look like scoring, no confidence,Mouriniho!!! We'd be lucky if Mick McCarthy wanted to join us, Forget Hazard and Remy and bye bye Bale,Modric,VDV,Walker...we need a whole new team start again they are all shit,we will come 6th and all the other teams will strengthern Harry is a rubbish manager who will leave anyway and we will just go back to being mid-table.

It was nice while it lasted
But seriously though how has this happened and did we just over-rate the squad earlier in the year? I still look at it man for man now and think there are not many players in the PL/world even that I'd easily swap in, wheather its the balance of the side, lack of confidence the Harry thing, tactics whatever OR are these players showing their true worth have we just over-rated them all along and perhaps it would be good to 'start-again', I for one think not and wish we'd somehow come top4 and keep Bale,Modric etc and get a new man in as the players heads just aren't in it is my view.

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[marvel]

Maybe we did overrate the squad. We didn't get any league wins against the big teams except for Arsenal all season. We comfortably beat Liverpool and Newcastle at home. In the first half of the season we beat all the teams we should be beating but still didn't manage to beat Chelsea, Man United and Man City all season.

 

[nedley]

Jenas did it.

 

[TheGreenLily]

Maybe we did overrate the squad. We didn't get any league wins against the big teams except for Arsenal all season. We comfortably beat Liverpool and Newcastle at home. In the first half of the season we beat all the teams we should be beating but still didn't manage to beat Chelsea, Man United and Man City all season.

So many little problems, little little problems have finally combined to make a huge fucking mess. Everything could have been fixed so easily with just 1% of common sense (that's from 0% to 1%), but alas we are now just a laughing stock of the footballing world. Who in the world is going to want to support a club like ours

 

[Kingellesar]

As good as we have been this season, what helped us was how poor Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool were. Arsenal have come good like they always do and completely embarassed us.

Next season is going to be very tough, Chelsea will most likely strengthen in the summer if they don't renew Drogbas contract, Liverpool will surely find some form next season, they found it in the cups and Arsenal well, keeping RVP would be the key for them this summer. This season was our ideal chance to finish in the CL positions, get the money and strengthen to try and resist other teams breaking into the top four, now it looks like a very tough task to ensure CL football.

 

[TheGreenLily]

When I read the thread title, I thought you was referring to the size of a pair of balls.

 

[sunnydelight786]

What this second half of the season has shown me is that I would'nt want anyone of them down in the trenches with me when your up against it. 2 years in a row, I'll say that again, 2 YEARS IN A ROW they have bottled it when it really mattered and worse still humiliated us in the process by getting absolutely gobbed on at the Emirates and Wembley....

 

[saintlyspur]

we dont need big changes just one.get rid of that twitchy media loving shitbag

 

[hellava_tough]

I think the squad is talented but the players' mental strength is piss-poor - any excuse or opportunity for the players to crumble, embracing defeat, and they will

Over the last few years we've seen Spurs teams, when playing against tough opposition, completely bottle it when a decision goes against them. As fans we moan and complain about the ref, etc, but really we should be complaining about our team's lack of character

So how do we rememdy this?

Firstly, we need a manager who can toughen up the players and instill them with courage and fortitude

Secondly, we need to get rid of any players, no matter how talented, who are too pussy to respond to the manager's actions outlined above

Thirdly, we should ONLY sign players who are mentally tough enough to play for a top 4 club. You think Fergie would put up with half the ****s that have played for us over the last 20 years? Bollocks would he!


Anyway, the whole mentality at the club needs to change. To be honest, I wouldn't mind someone like Roy Keane managing us. Intially the results wouldn't be great, but if we stuck with him for a couple of seasons I think we'd see a massive improvement

 

[kaz Hirai]

I think the squad is talented but the players' mental strength is piss-poor - any excuse or opportunity for the players to crumble, embracing defeat, and they will

Over the last few years we've seen Spurs teams, when playing against tough opposition, completely bottle it when a decision goes against them. As fans we moan and complain about the ref, etc, but really we should be complaining about our team's lack of character

So how do we rememdy this?

Firstly, we need a manager who can toughen up the players and instill them with courage and fortitude

Secondly, we need to get rid of any players, no matter how talented, who are too pussy to respond to the manager's actions outlined above

Thirdly, we should ONLY sign players who are mentally tough enough to play for a top 4 club. You think Fergie would put up with half the ****s that have played for us over the last 20 years? Bollocks would he!


Anyway, the whole mentality at the club needs to change. To be honest, I wouldn't mind someone like Roy Keane managing us. Intially the results wouldn't be great, but if we stuck with him for a couple of seasons I think we'd see a massive improvement

but isnt that why harry brought in friedel, gallas, nelsen, parker and saha because they were experienced, leaders, great pros and all that bollox.

its harry who doesnt have the leadership and mental fortitude, i know that now. To be fair to him though this is his first job were he is expected to win things and he is a bit out of his depth

 

[lukespurs7]

but isnt that why harry brought in friedel, gallas, nelsen, parker and saha because they were experienced, leaders, great pros and all that bollox.

its harry who doesnt have the leadership and mental fortitude, i know that now. To be fair to him though this is his first job were he is expected to win things and he is a bit out of his depth

Exactly what I was about to say, although apart from Gallas have any of those actually won anything of note.
Add Van Der Vaarts experience and leadership to that and Kings. But I do agree though, we have moved up a level or two in terms of the quality of players we have but similarly to Arsenal we seem to lack that bottle. Chelsea for example their squad is pretty ageing and fairly poor this season compared to what they have had in the past but in their spine the likes of: Cech,Terry,Cole,Lampard,Drogba they have winners and players who in the big games stand up and are counted. Mabye we need to win something first before we can have that belief and strength of character. Take Man.U their leaders, Ferdinand,Vidic,Evra,Giggs,Scholes etc etc cant imagine them being exactly very vocal but their experience of winning and that know-how seems to win games. Man.Citys squad strength is better than Man.U's all day long but they have bottled the title like we have bottled 3rd and now even fucking 4th.

 

[dontcallme]

I don't think we need a massive change with regards to playing personnel. We need better direction and tactics from the management and also our recent signings haven't been particularly great.

Pienaar, Nelson and Saha aren't terrible players but Pienaar didn't suit our needs and Nelson and Saha are hardly important signings. Parker and Adebayor were good signings though.

Bale is playing a free-role which takes away from his work-rate and we end up getting congested in the centre. There's little movement up-front and today other than headers we failed to create chances.

I believe in this squad and if used better we could comfortably be in the top 4 right now.

 

[felmani26]

I don't think we need a massive change with regards to playing personnel. We need better direction and tactics from the management and also our recent signings haven't been particularly great.

Pienaar, Nelson and Saha aren't terrible players but Pienaar didn't suit our needs and Nelson and Saha are hardly important signings. Parker and Adebayor were good signings though.

Bale is playing a free-role which takes away from his work-rate and we end up getting congested in the centre. There's little movement up-front and today other than headers we failed to create chances.

I believe in this squad and if used better we could comfortably be in the top 4 right now.

What we need is expert coaching and change of philosophy.

 

[Dan Yeats]

I really do think that Bale coming in from the left has had knock-on effects all over the park, and has royally screwed us.

 

[kaz Hirai]

I really do think that Bale coming in from the left has had knock-on effects all over the park, and has royally screwed us.

he was playing wide left all last season and we still crumbled at the end like a shit sandwich, his stats are just as impressive as ever this season at the tender age of 22.

i wont pin any blame on bale, he's young and trying to develop his game further, and its paid off at times this season. surely we aren't a one dimensional team

 

[lukespurs7]

I don't think we need a massive change with regards to playing personnel. We need better direction and tactics from the management and also our recent signings haven't been particularly great.

Pienaar, Nelson and Saha aren't terrible players but Pienaar didn't suit our needs and Nelson and Saha are hardly important signings. Parker and Adebayor were good signings though.

Bale is playing a free-role which takes away from his work-rate and we end up getting congested in the centre. There's little movement up-front and today other than headers we failed to create chances.

I believe in this squad and if used better we could comfortably be in the top 4 right now.

Agree on the signings, especially Pienaar really never understood that one.
If 35,000 fans can see Bale should stay on the left why can't the coaching staff that is beyond me.
And I think it's more than tactics, this whole speculation etc must have had an impact because we can't have just gone from playing everyone off the park to being useless, todays result and performance can I think be put a lot down to a lack of confidence and belief so Harry must take blame for that.

As for using the squad, mabye some more rotation but to be fair with injuries etc it's been difficult. Mabye sometimes we've gone with 4-4-2 when we should've played 4-2-3-1 but then again that 4-2-3-1 has also looked pretty ineffective lately.

Very hard to put the finger of blame on one factor really, but yes this squad should in my opinion be top4 and after Chelseas AVB disaster and Arsenals early season run of form and our incredible run we should not have thrown this away-disgraceful.

But it does seem like we are a bit predictable, Parker does his stuff defensively but Modric,VDV,Bale,Defoe today just did not look like causing QPR any threat and they have done more often than players of their supposed ability should.

 

[stemark44]

We don't lack bottle,we lack direction.

 

[dontcallme]

he was playing wide left all last season and we still crumbled at the end like a shit sandwich, his stats are just as impressive as ever this season at the tender age of 22.

i wont pin any blame on bale, he's young and trying to develop his game further, and its paid off at times this season. surely we aren't a one dimensional team

It's not about blaming Bale, it's about utilising him properly.

 

[smokesoapbar]

You know what I'm seriously annoyed with is that I felt confident that we had a good shot of getting Mourhino in this summer if he left Real and we were in the CL. Now, well...

 

[sunnydelight786]

As I have said before and will say again we need a no nonsense manager who will come in and shake this place up. Quite a few of these players need a rocket stuck up their arse, a manager like Van Gaal/Capello/etc would do just that aswell as instill a winning mentality into these players. We don't need a flavour of the month manager like Rodgers but a real proven winner now till we make the stadium move.....