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Can someone please explain Why Tim Sherwood is so hated?

Dezzydez

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http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11674/2284406/season-over-for-sherwood

I remember he made some disparaging remarks about Spurs after he left. Tarrico went in hard with his tackle.

I was surprised when Sherwood came back into the fold, thought he hated us. We need Teedy to hurry up and taking his coaching badges and lead us to the promise land..:)

Levy has his arm rammed firmly up Sherwood's botty and is working him like the puppetmaster. Make no mistake, to all intents and purposes, Levy is the manager and has been for some time. It's genius really when you think about it. He enjoys a cult status amongst the BSoDL and can do no wrong and has the buffer of whichever poor sap he throws into the firing line to take the fall for results etc etc. Pretty much everyone is saying how poor/inept etc etc AVB was but conveniently forget that if that is all true, then appointing him in the first place was rank negligence. Teflon, bulletproof, bomb proof, criticism proof, water proof and stain proof. Gotta hold your hand up.....fair play to him.

Sherwood out. Lets not fuck about SC, come on, Sherwood out. We all know the endgame........Might as well do it now instead of a few months down the line.

:sneaky:
 

Rout-Ledge

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Levy has his arm rammed firmly up Sherwood's botty and is working him like the puppetmaster. Make no mistake, to all intents and purposes, Levy is the manager and has been for some time. It's genius really when you think about it. He enjoys a cult status amongst the BSoDL and can do no wrong and has the buffer of whichever poor sap he throws into the firing line to take the fall for results etc etc. Pretty much everyone is saying how poor/inept etc etc AVB was but conveniently forget that if that is all true, then appointing him in the first place was rank negligence. Teflon, bulletproof, bomb proof, criticism proof, water proof and stain proof. Gotta hold your hand up.....fair play to him.

Sherwood out. Lets not fuck about SC, come on, Sherwood out. We all know the endgame........Might as well do it now instead of a few months down the line.

:sneaky:

To play devil's advocate...if this is all true then (if Sherwood is halfway competent) having a manager who's totally onside with Levy might actually be more conducive to harmony between manager and chairman and produce results? And for all the criticism of Levy, he has brought a marked improvement to the club's fortunes during his tenure.
 

Kendall

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Levy has his arm rammed firmly up Sherwood's botty and is working him like the puppetmaster. Make no mistake, to all intents and purposes, Levy is the manager and has been for some time. It's genius really when you think about it. He enjoys a cult status amongst the BSoDL and can do no wrong and has the buffer of whichever poor sap he throws into the firing line to take the fall for results etc etc. Pretty much everyone is saying how poor/inept etc etc AVB was but conveniently forget that if that is all true, then appointing him in the first place was rank negligence. Teflon, bulletproof, bomb proof, criticism proof, water proof and stain proof. Gotta hold your hand up.....fair play to him.

Sherwood out. Lets not fuck about SC, come on, Sherwood out. We all know the endgame........Might as well do it now instead of a few months down the line.

:sneaky:

You've been trolling a lot recently for someone so anti-troll. :coldfeet:
 

Legend10

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Levy has his arm rammed firmly up Sherwood's botty and is working him like the puppetmaster. Make no mistake, to all intents and purposes, Levy is the manager and has been for some time. It's genius really when you think about it. He enjoys a cult status amongst the BSoDL and can do no wrong and has the buffer of whichever poor sap he throws into the firing line to take the fall for results etc etc. Pretty much everyone is saying how poor/inept etc etc AVB was but conveniently forget that if that is all true, then appointing him in the first place was rank negligence. Teflon, bulletproof, bomb proof, criticism proof, water proof and stain proof. Gotta hold your hand up.....fair play to him.

Sherwood out. Lets not fuck about SC, come on, Sherwood out. We all know the endgame........Might as well do it now instead of a few months down the line.

:sneaky:


Hang on there A&C, near enough every club chairman fires managers with a fair degree of regularity!

IMHO pretty much all of Levy's appointments have at the time made sense, as has the timing of their subsequent dismissals, wouldn't you agree?

I think levy desperately wants a successful long term manager.
 

ShayLaB

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To play devil's advocate...if this is all true then (if Sherwood is halfway competent) having a manager who's totally onside with Levy might actually be more conducive to harmony between manager and chairman and produce results? And for all the criticism of Levy, he has brought a marked improvement to the club's fortunes during his tenure.

+1

I was about to type the same thing. At least they know each other and DL is not hiring a stranger.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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To play devil's advocate...if this is all true then (if Sherwood is halfway competent) having a manager who's totally onside with Levy might actually be more conducive to harmony between manager and chairman and produce results? And for all the criticism of Levy, he has brought a marked improvement to the club's fortunes during his tenure.
Who cares really? At some point we'll string together a few bad results and we'll turn. We always do.
As i've said elsewhere, if you had money, you'd want Daniel Levy investing it for you, absolutely. And there's no denying he's done good things whilst he's been chairman. But that shouldn't be some sort of eternal justification absolving him from criticism. Why should the same standards we apply to managers etc not apply here? The good does not mean there's no bad.

Money/Finance/Negotiating = Genius. The actual football stuff? Liability.

I hope you appreciate this answer Routy, i've put my nads on the line here. As we speak the BSoDL are sharpening knives and loading sawn-offs :cautious:
 

bomberH

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The only time I remember thinking Sherwood was a bit of a **** was when he was on sky alongside Paul Robinson and said to the presenter that he would've dropped Robbo ages ago. Robbo's face was smiling but inside he was dying. You could tell. Now I know some people like that no nonsense approach, especially as Robbo's form had dipped by then, but it came across as a bit unprofessional and 'for the cameras'. There was no need to say it like that, he embarrassed a player live on air. If he has the same attitude with all players, it won't be long before there's unrest in the camp.

That aside, I don't care if he supports Arsenal. I don't care if he has a Gunners tattoo on his helmet. I haven't seen the clip of him laying into Spurs either. I do remember Teddy saying he had lots of things to say about us and Hoddle but he wouldn't because he wants to manage us one day, so Hoddle probably did piss off a lot of people at the time & Sherwood isn't one to hold back. So if he did lay in to us, maybe we deserved it. Who knows.

Either way, if he's still in the job in February, it should mean we're doing well so that's a good thing. Or it means we're mid table and out of the cups but we can't find a replacement, which isn't a good thing.
 

Donki

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I don't give a shit what excuses people have get behind him and the club, over half a season left and everything to play for. IMO he hated simply cause he's English and wasn't the most skillfull player in the world, if his name was Deadwoodinho, didn't speak a word of English and managed at some South American backwater for a few seasons a lot of people would be creaming their pants.
 

Rout-Ledge

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But that shouldn't be some sort of eternal justification absolving him from criticism. Why should the same standards we apply to managers etc not apply here? The good does not mean there's no bad.

I completely agree. A proper examination of his behaviour during the tenures of all of his managers demonstrates obvious and infuriating failings on his part. The undermining of AVB from practically the moment he stepped in the door was staggering to me. Utterly staggering.
 

Donki

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The only time I remember thinking Sherwood was a bit of a **** was when he was on sky alongside Paul Robinson and said to the presenter that he would've dropped Robbo ages ago. Robbo's face was smiling but inside he was dying. You could tell. Now I know some people like that no nonsense approach, especially as Robbo's form had dipped by then, but it came across as a bit unprofessional and 'for the cameras'. There was no need to say it like that, he embarrassed a player live on air. If he has the same attitude with all players, it won't be long before there's unrest in the camp.

That aside, I don't care if he supports Arsenal. I don't care if he has a Gunners tattoo on his helmet. I haven't seen the clip of him laying into Spurs either. I do remember Teddy saying he had lots of things to say about us and Hoddle but he wouldn't because he wants to manage us one day, so Hoddle probably did piss off a lot of people at the time & Sherwood isn't one to hold back. So if he did lay in to us, maybe we deserved it. Who knows.

Either way, if he's still in the job in February, it should mean we're doing well so that's a good thing. Or it means we're mid table and out of the cups but we can't find a replacement, which isn't a good thing.

Bomber, 25,000 odd were shouting at Robbo too fuck off months before he was dropped, if Sherwood can see something that the rest of us can see surely it's a good thing. :D
 

CheeseGromit

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What has he ever done

'Cept talk about it. So far just talks a good game. Far far bigger gamble than AVB


Certainly put the skids under Glenda, something I will never forgive.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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You've been trolling a lot recently for someone so anti-troll. :coldfeet:
You wouldn't know how to spot trolling if it got a hard on and cockslapped you 26 times across the face.

Run along now, the big boys are playing (Now THAT'S trolling. Watch and learn) ;)
 
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Slightly off topic, but I'm sure i read somewhere that Sherwood had some influence in bringing Lamela to the club i.e. had seen him and was impressed etc, etc.

Can anyone add any substance to that?
 

guiltyparty

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I was really looking for the clip of when he left Spurs and tore into the club.

Won't forget that.

All I found was an article on the guardian when Hoddle fined him.

He always carries himself like he's bigger and better than Spurs. Something doesn't sit right with me about it.

Exactly this. He's always talked about Spurs, even when playing for us (and not very well, either), as if we're beneath him. As if he'd won a string of league titles, not just the one for the Chelsea/City of their day.

We'll see I guess. I second the untrustworthy stuff. You don't get a shot at the Spurs job without any previous management experience every day, so I'm instantly suspicious. So sue me

I'll forgive all if he can get us going, obvs
 
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Parklane Block 34

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Let's put it this way I am not spending any money on the club until he is removed.

Disastrous appointment. It will be like watching another slow motion car crash.

Levy has lost it for me also.

Yes I wanted AVB out. Another crap appointment which had ended in inevitable disaster and has set our club back at least 5 years.

Joke.

Deadwood out!
 

Gb160

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I'm not convinced by Tim....since he's been in charge Lamelas still not started a match .... Get rid!
 
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Grey Fox

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Levy has his arm rammed firmly up Sherwood's botty and is working him like the puppetmaster. Make no mistake, to all intents and purposes, Levy is the manager and has been for some time. It's genius really when you think about it. He enjoys a cult status amongst the BSoDL and can do no wrong and has the buffer of whichever poor sap he throws into the firing line to take the fall for results etc etc. Pretty much everyone is saying how poor/inept etc etc AVB was but conveniently forget that if that is all true, then appointing him in the first place was rank negligence. Teflon, bulletproof, bomb proof, criticism proof, water proof and stain proof. Gotta hold your hand up.....fair play to him.

Sherwood out. Lets not fuck about SC, come on, Sherwood out. We all know the endgame........Might as well do it now instead of a few months down the line.

:sneaky:
This and this , you might as well have Levy in charge of the team. Why do you think he turned down the opportunity to manage Blackburn?
 
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