What's new

Carlos Cueller - transferred to the Villa revolution

soulburnslow

New Member
Feb 1, 2008
8
0
Nooooooooo. You can't have Hutton AND King Carlos. That just isn't fair. Boo-urns to this story.

PS. Boumsong was here barely 6 months, and had already put in a handful of shocking performances, including games at home to Hearts where he was bullied by future Leiciester City flop, Mark de Vries, and a UEFA Cup game at home to a mediocre Auxerre side who made Boum look like an amateur and pumped us 0-2. Boumsong's price was hiked up because he somehow managed to get into the French squad and actually started a few games for them. Cuellar is in a different stratosphere as a defender.


Still tho, paws off!
 

chinaman

Well-Known Member
Jul 19, 2003
17,974
12,423
The spelling in the thread title has it as Cueller, which I hope he is not. For here in Canada, a"cueller" has a big hole in the centre, as it is a doughnut or "donut" as we spell it.
 

Yid-ol

Just-outside Edinburgh
Jan 16, 2006
31,200
19,455
:hand: Easy tiger.

London Rangers :shrug:

dont know much about this guy, i try and not watch rangers games as they are normaly boring, the few games i have seen he has looked alright, not worth as much as what is being thrown around though
 

remember91

Active Member
Apr 10, 2005
528
208
Cuellar and Weir have been very good together at Rangers this season, but Rangers play 451 with a very deep back 4 and the hardworkin Darcheville upfront (rather than the much more talented Kris Boyd). Cuellars done well but, but I think he'll get found out with our attacking play and the higher level of quality in the premiership. Prefer King/Woodgate/Dawson/Kaboul as our 4 centre backs. Got the feeling though our people must have been seen in south glasgow so we might be after someone there. Macgregor is the obvious target (although he's injured at the moment) although Boyd might be a wild card. He's got a phenominal scoring record - both at Kilmarnock and Rangers, and is currently behind Darcheville and the utterly awful Daniel Cousins larely due to has lack of work rate. Could see him as 3rd/4th choice stricker if berbatov leaves, and we could get him on the cheap.
 

WildCard

Member
May 26, 2007
212
0
MY worry is that Rangers are a very defensive team, so it's a lot easier for him to look good, we are the opposite and he's going to face a lot more pressure...it's also a lot of money!
 

Kevealis

Rangers FC
Jan 30, 2008
224
1
MY worry is that Rangers are a very defensive team, so it's a lot easier for him to look good, we are the opposite and he's going to face a lot more pressure...it's also a lot of money!
Wait...so rangers are defencive, meaning cuellar gets to look good because why...hes having to tackle read the play and do everything a defender is sposed to do...but because spurs play more attacking he'll face more pressure? Im lost there
 

Yid-ol

Just-outside Edinburgh
Jan 16, 2006
31,200
19,455
Wait...so rangers are defencive, meaning cuellar gets to look good because why...hes having to tackle read the play and do everything a defender is sposed to do...but because spurs play more attacking he'll face more pressure? Im lost there

because 10 men behind the ball means more people able to cover and mark other men making it easyer for him to look good, instead of us having about 3 or 4 at a push behind the ball :shrug: means he will get streched more and that is something he very rarley has done to him at rangers
 

Clydey

New Member
Mar 9, 2008
76
0
Cuellar is fantastic. It' really that simple. People are passing judgement without really having a good look at him. I said it before but I'll say it again. There is no defender I'd rather have. And he's actually quick, something a lot of people don't seem to realise.

Also, Rangers do not put 10 men behind the ball. They pack the midfield. Yes, they are defensive, but not to the extent some people think. It just looks that way because, to be honest, they have maybe 2 good midfielders: Ferguson and Thomson. And Ferguson has been awful this season. That is the main reason they are always on the back foot. They can't keep hold of possession.

If Spurs get Cuellar you should count your lucky stars.
 

Kevealis

Rangers FC
Jan 30, 2008
224
1
Rangers dont simply have 10 men behind the ball, as Clydey said. Yes, we play quite defencive, but Cuellar is called upon a lot to make the tackles. He is stretched all the time in europe because when you play quality teams like Fiorentina you need to rely on defenders like Cuellar to cut out the killer final ball. And he done that with ease.
 

yanno

Well-Known Member
Aug 1, 2003
5,857
2,877
Is Cuellar any better than Ricardo Rocha? They look very similar players to me - both excellent readers of the game, solid and dependable.

The only difference is we wouldn't have to pay a stupid amount of money (£10 million - you're 'aving a a larf!) to see Rocha in a Spurs shirt.
 

Kevealis

Rangers FC
Jan 30, 2008
224
1
Oh, and the oppinion of Cuellar amongst the rangers fans is that he is one of the best defenders we've EVER had. Up there with guys like Gough and Butcher.
 

DC_Boy

New Member
May 20, 2005
17,608
5
well as i've already said I think Cueller is brilliant on what I've seen and well worth £10m - he looks far better in the air than Rocha on my limited knowledge of him
 

Clydey

New Member
Mar 9, 2008
76
0
Is Cuellar any better than Ricardo Rocha? They look very similar players to me - both excellent readers of the game, solid and dependable.

The only difference is we wouldn't have to pay a stupid amount of money (£10 million - you're 'aving a a larf!) to see Rocha in a Spurs shirt.

10 million is a snip for Cuellar. Either you haven't watched many Rangers matches or... well there is no other reason. I can't recall a match in which Cuellar hasn't been outstanding. Not merely solid and dependable. Outstanding.
 

yanno

Well-Known Member
Aug 1, 2003
5,857
2,877
10 million is a snip for Cuellar. Either you haven't watched many Rangers matches or... well there is no other reason. I can't recall a match in which Cuellar hasn't been outstanding. Not merely solid and dependable. Outstanding.

I saw Cuellar when he was in Spain. You bought him for £2.3 million with very little competition from Spanish clubs.

I've seen him for Rangers. He looks better than the 37-year-old David Weir protected by a very defensive, pack-the-midfield formation. That doesn't prove all that much, although I see that Rangers fans do rate him very highly.

Ricardo Rocha was a current Portuguese international renowned for his reading of the game when we signed him. Our coaches now don't seem to consider him good enough for the EPL.

I may be wrong. Cuellar may prove to be a top class international CB, although I don't believe he's played for Spain yet. But, with respect, I think until he plays regularly in a very fast league such as the EPL, without the protection of a very defensive midfield in front of him, we won't know quite how good he is, or isn't.
 

chinaman

Well-Known Member
Jul 19, 2003
17,974
12,423
10 million is a lot for a Canadian Honey Cueller. We get them at 75 cents in a donut shop.
 

justfookinhitit

Jedi Master
Aug 4, 2006
1,206
0
Well Ramos has the ideal person with inside knowledge to ask about his attributes, and that is Hutton. If Hutton thinks he is the answer, based upon having played alongside him, then i'm sure that will influence Ramos' thinking.
 

remember91

Active Member
Apr 10, 2005
528
208
10 million is a snip for Cuellar. Either you haven't watched many Rangers matches or... well there is no other reason. I can't recall a match in which Cuellar hasn't been outstanding. Not merely solid and dependable. Outstanding.


I live in Scotland, and as all that is shown are Rangers or Celtic ( a pub will even change channel mid spurs game, to put on either of their games), as a result I have seen Cuellar play a lot this season. He's a good player, very tough tackling, but he lacks the pace or awareness to make it at the level we wish to be at in the premiership. I was at the Ranger - Lyon CL game (due to some fancy courtesy tickets) and Benzema tore him apart, and it is that kind of player, rather than the likes of Scott McDonald, that he will have to face in the premiership.
 
Top