Chelsea Vs Tottenham: FA Cup Match Thread

[glacierSpurs]

I think Conte leaving Hazard and Costa on the bench was a gamble/excuse for him if they had lost this game.. Their intention was to hit us on the counter.. He made it perfect for as a motivation for the run-in for these two fellows if they win after bringing them in.. Even if they lose, he had the excuse of having Costa and Hazard on bench as being an defensive option against an offensive side like us..

Mourinho outwitted Conte, but Poch obviously is still behind them both in this aspect...

 

[rupsmith]

I (very) grudgingly like your post.

It actually eased the pain for some reason. So bitterly disappointed. The only chance for a trophy over and we have some big games to play to get top 4. Hope we stay in there and dont fall away.

A general comment - I wouldn't mind a keeper that gives us steady 7/10 performances each week - like a Begovic . Rather than a 10/10 and then sometimes a 5/10. Hugo is very very good but he has let in a few soft ones in big games - like the Arsenal one under his body, the Man City 2-2 and today - he was poor. The free kick was his and the handling outside the box.

But several amazings saves have given us 3. If he has to make those amazing saves, it's more a reflection of poor defending. We shouldn't have Hugo demonstrating how good he is that often.

Not a knee jerk reaction - just a general view.

 

[TheHood]

You obviously want Pochettino fired. Good luck with your campaign

Yes because that is precisely what I said.

 

[felmani26]

Lot of idiots in herr tonight. Sorry but it has to be said.

In a cup-game with two teams, one will lose.

To go on about this meaning we will never win anything, and that we don't have the mentality is just utter shit...!

How does mentality prevent matic from scoring that goal?

Get a grip.

Forgot we lost 1-0

 

[Spursh]

Also, Trippier is not a great wing back. He's a bloody good fullback, with that extra protection in front of him, which enables him to overlap. But as a wing back, he has to make and move into space himself, and he doesn't have Walker's dynamism or athleticism to do so.

 

[DiscoD1882]

Sickener. Absolute sickener.

 

[theShiznit]

Eriksen and Dembele vie for MOTM... The latter damn near unplayable at times. Eriksen's ball into Dele was exquisite, just perfect, only the best can pull off stuff like that.

But when Hazard picked the ball up in that position, there was just this air of inevitability. Felt it too many times not to know what was coming.

I'm not sure I will ever understand Pochs' choice of a forward playing at left back.

Clearly he chose his heart over his head and put individuals before the team.

He would've had to have left out Son, Dier or Wanyama, but chose the easy option of leaving out Davies and it impacted our whole performance.

Who knows, if Davies played it may have been worse but we'll never know, what we do know is that Son was a liability going towards his own goal from the first whislte, and as a result Jan was pulled across and the rest of the defence became unstable.

 

[EastLondonYid]

We are jinxed ffs. Talk about finding a way to lose....how did that happen.....poch mate,wtf??

 

[slartibartfast]

Well, that was depressing.
I'll try and be constructive and not fly into a blind rage.
Before I start picking it apart I'd like to make it clear We were the better team. We created more had more possession and looked the more likely to score in open play.
However, thats not enough to win a game of football unfortunately.
Imo Poch fked up with the line up and that cost us the game.
Ask yourself this, if you're an opposition lb and you see the team sheet and its Trippier instead of Walker are you happy or worried? I know what I'd be thinking.
I rate Trippier and he didn't have a bad game BUT he doesn't worry defences like Walker imo. Sorry but he doesn't.
Next, you're playing the league leaders in a must win game, is this the time to try something different and play an attacking midfielder at lb? I think not.
I think I can safely say there isnt a Spurs fan in the world who had a team selection of Trippier and Son as full backs for this game. It was poor.
Next, I can't believe we defended so poorly. Apparently we have one of the best defences in the league. Well you wouldn't fkin think so with that display. 4 goals and we gifted all of them.
A freekick within 5min. Seriously?
A penalty where Son was on his arse a full 5sec before Moses even touched the fkin ball. But as I said he shouldn't have been there in the first place. That ones on Poch.
Then they get a corner. Their 1st corner in the whole fkin game after we've had about 10 and done the absolutely fk all with them. I turned to the mrs and said you'll score from this. And we defend the same way we were 4 years ago before Poch even arrived. Everyone run into the box like school kids and hope for the best. Dont mark anyone. Dont do your fkin job. Just stand in the 6yd box and hope for the best.
To call it school boy defending is an insult to school boys everywhere.
Surely you assign players a job to mark someone no??? I'd have thought just maybe marking Hazard for a set peice might have come up at some point before the match. Apparently not.
Finally they scored in open play. By fkin actually shooting. Something we seem very reluctant to do. For all our possession and time spent in and around that Chelsea goal, how many times did we actually give the gk something to do? We didn't. We've turned into Arsenal, trying to walk it in. Shoot ffs.
Absolutely gutted that we got the 2 goals I thought we would but gave away 4 fkin utter shit goals when we supposedly have one of the best defences going. Shame Poch decided today was the day to play silly buggers with that back 4/5.
Going to be a lot harder keeping our players after that frankly pathetic display. Overall we were the better team but defensively that was an embarrassment.
We need to win the league cup next year. Its our best chance to get that winning mentality and get this monkey off our back.
What a shitty way to lose a game. Fkin football.

 

[nailsy]

Dominated but punished by a more experienced and efficient side.

Pochettino, whom I adore btw, made a big mistake playing Son - our least defensively aware player in the squad - in a defensive position. Lloris didn't cover himself in glory either and Dier struggled throughout.

But I can't fault our effort and desire; we deserved so much more. Special mention for Eriksen, who was superb

It was a very strange decision to pick Son in that position. It just looks like he couldn't decide who to drop and just threw Son into a weird position to keep him in the team.

 

[jonnyrotten]

We were better than them, and that in itself is unbelievable when you considering our resources against theirs. They won the battle but the tide is turning.. very proud yid here

 

[jonathanhotspur]

I think Conte leaving Hazard and Costa on the bench was a gamble/excuse for him if they had lost this game.. Their intention was to hit us on the counter.. He made it perfect for as a motivation for the run-in for these two fellows if they win after bringing them in.. Even if they lose, he had the excuse of having Costa and Hazard on bench as being an defensive option against an offensive side like us..

Mourinho outwitted Conte, but Poch obviously is still behind them both in this aspect...

I think it was a case of Conte trying to keep his big guns for the league. I think they've been tasting the fear over there.

 

[Indisguise]

It was a very strange decision to pick Son in that position. It just looks like he couldn't decide who to drop and just threw Son into a weird position to keep him in the team.

It's a head scratcher that's for sure. Blackmail has to come into it somewhere.

 

[buckley]

I think that teams like Chelsea,arsenal and man unt play against top sides in a very negative way that's to say very defensive but hit on the break quickly.
Spurs ;man city and Liverpool go head to head with attacking play from the outset no matter who they play
to me it shows that they are scared to go head to head as they know they will in all probability get beaten if they take on good teams.
Chelsea over recent seasons have had mourino;avb;and now conte the one who tried to play attractive attacking football anceloti they soon unloaded whereas in the same timeframe we have had martin jol;harry redknapp and now poch and all these men tried to put out a team that played football good to watch in between we had to suffer avb for a while
all I can say is I have enjoyed the ride all be it no trophys
watching Chelsea with all there stars and money to burn I would feel cheated to watch football the way they play it.
I also feel if we can keep our manager and main players we will get to the point where we are seriel winners have faith

 

[YiddoTom90]

It was a very strange decision to pick Son in that position. It just looks like he couldn't decide who to drop and just threw Son into a weird position to keep him in the team.

dont see how davies could be worse, weird decision to say the least

 

[Jamturk]

We defended poorly at crucial times , you can't do that at this level.

Stating the bleeding obvious I know.

 

[ajspurs]

I think it was a case of Conte trying to keep his big guns for the league. I think they've been tasting the fear over there.

I honestly do too, he knows they're one slip up away from being up shit creek. He knows this trophy won't make up for letting the league slip to us.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Shearer the nine carrot wanker "Chelsea deserved to win". Fucking monosyllabic tosspot. Jenas at least tried to put him right.

Shearer's bollocks argument "you don't win games by possession" is irrelevant. You don't win games by having none of the ball and praying that your only three set pieces and howitzer from 30 yards go in either. Fucking muppet.

Any team that lets in four goals does not deserve to fucking win a game of football.

Goals win games, possesion, amount of corners or free kicks count for nowt.

We made too many unforced errors, fielded a poor team selection and system and had not one player who we could bring off the bench who would make a shits difference.

Even Stevie Wonder could see that.

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Clearly he chose his heart over his head and put individuals before the team.

He would've had to have left out Son, Dier or Wanyama, but chose the easy option of leaving out Davies and it impacted our whole performance.

Who knows, if Davies played it may have been worse but we'll never know, what we do know is that Son was a liability going towards his own goal from the first whislte, and as a result Jan was pulled across and the rest of the defence became unstable.

Good point about Jan being pulled across. I think what Poch was trying to do was manage his resources for 3 massive games in 8 days. Could Davies manage 3 games in 8 days? Plus he had a knock. I think Danny Rose is at least a couple of weeks away. It's a bastard of a decision to have to make.

 

[SugarRay]

As much as it hurts to always come up short, I'd rather be contesting than having our seasons over in early March

When all is said and done, we don't follow that blue shower of shit we played today. Pathetic club to the core. They can have all the tainted glory they want. Means fuck all really