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China exodus ... yay or nay ?

danielneeds

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I don't think we have a single player who'd be interested. The lifestyle there would be shit and they'd be throwing away their international careers and any chance of acheiving anything meaningful in the game. Clubs like Chelsea and Man City are at the biggest risk because they themselves attract players by paying obscene wages. So they may end up reaping what they've sown.
We probably don't, but with these things it's best not to laugh too hard lest you end up with egg on your face. We don't yet know what the extent of the China factor.
 

danielneeds

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If Chelsea get £80m for him after getting £60m for Oscar they could put in a serious offer for one of the big players in Spain without even touching Romans wallet (apart from wages).
Apart from Neymar - couldn't see any of the other big ones being interested, and even that is a stretch.
 

Spurger King

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Apparently it's all a big misunderstanding.

A manager in China was looking at player profiles with his chairman, trying to identify potential new signings. They arrived at a photo of Costa and the manager simply said "he's the missing link".
 

beats1

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A Chinese international called Chengdong Zhang just moved from Beijning Guoan to Hebei China Fortune for 20m Euro. He's a 27yr old right back with 23 caps.

The insane spending isn't just confined to European and South American players.
Cost of a homegrown is going to be high especially when there is such a limit on foreign players

If he is one of the best chinese players than he is worth it to the buyers
 
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GeneralBurk

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Have you noticed it's pretty much exclusively Brazilian players going there in their prime, with a splash of Argentina? Live in Europe or China? About the same flight home just 6x the money.

Thankfully we only have one in lamela and I don't think his profile puts him above the parapet.

Makes you think the likes of Sanchez, Aguero, Firmino and Mane have a target on their backs.

Witsel has always chased the money so I would have been surprised if he hadn't acted as a mercenary.
 

dagraham

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I thought footballed had already disappeared up its own aresole and sold its soul to the devil, but what's going on with China takes it to a whole new level.

It really is fucking obscene.
 

luptic

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Wistel even came out himself and stated that he moved for the money, which is far enough. If you were offered a Job in Dubai for 10x your salary you'd move yourself.
 

dagraham

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Wistel even came out himself and stated that he moved for the money, which is far enough. If you were offered a Job in Dubai for 10x your salary you'd move yourself.

I wouldn't necessarily blame anyone for doing it if they had achieved things in the game already, but these players are already multi-millionaires.

How much money does one person actually need?
 

UpTownSpur

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I think the net result of all this is that European clubs will become increasingly wary of buying Brazilian players as they clearly seem to be the most likely to follow the money. Glad we don't have any.
 

danielneeds

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Wistel even came out himself and stated that he moved for the money, which is far enough. If you were offered a Job in Dubai for 10x your salary you'd move yourself.
That's it though - we hold footballers to a standard that most of us would not hold too. There's a reason that footballers and film stars go bankrupt all the time - because their expenditure goes up to equally crazy levels. Partners who expect diamonds, family who expect houses, friends who holiday in the highest luxury - it never stops.
 

dagraham

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That's it though - we hold footballers to a standard that most of us would not hold too. There's a reason that footballers and film stars go bankrupt all the time - because their expenditure goes up to equally crazy levels. Partners who expect diamonds, family who expect houses, friends who holiday in the highest luxury - it never stops.

To be fair that is a good point. If I was a PL footballer earning £100,000 a week I'd make damn sure it set me up for life whilst still having a grand old time.

Easy to spunk it up the wall though if you choose and there maybe things like huge divorce settlements etc to consider.

There's a reason why some rich people are tight and some like Abramavic throw it around like confetti, and it usually depends on how hard you've worked for it.
 

WalkerboyUK

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Wistel even came out himself and stated that he moved for the money, which is far enough. If you were offered a Job in Dubai for 10x your salary you'd move yourself.
Discussed this idea with the wife last week. Even that kind of salary increase from what I am on would never see me move to China, Dubai etc.
 

knilly

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Footballers are all mercenaries. Generally all going to the highest bidder. That's why Alli ended up here not Liverpool.

There will be repercussions as the money gets thrown around. Much like Seria A before the PL, the players go where the money is. Certain players are being vilified for going to China when other options might be to go to a mid table team in Europe. Witsel wouldn't have gone to a top team so he went after the money.

If you look at it from the perspective of just a person working for a company. Do you all work for your favourite company in your industry? Do you aspire to work for the best company in your industry? Probably not, your just happy to get the highest pay packet you can for what you do.

These players have no affinity with the teams they play for. Some of them aren't evenfrom this continent so why should they.
 

GeneralBurk

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Wistel even came out himself and stated that he moved for the money, which is far enough. If you were offered a Job in Dubai for 10x your salary you'd move yourself.
I agree. These guys are only human and as friend who once accused Alan Shearer of playing off the ladies' tees at Southport Golf Club. He was given the 'do you know who I am speech'.

His response was 'you'd be down the pit with the rest of them ****s if you couldn't kick a bag of wind round the park'

For all these lads most have come from nothing and are only a Ross Barkley tackle away from lost dreams.

They aren't surgeons turning down helping refugees in war torn areas earning a GP salary walking away to suck fat out of grannies in Florida.

By the way my mate is about 5"8 and 10st wet though. Tim Flowers had to drag Shearer back from tearing my mate's head off. Good times!
 

danielneeds

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Disagree, I cant see Barca willing to let Neymar go but I can see them getting Griezmann
Well I still think Griezmann is a level below the MSN and Ronaldo and Bale. There have been rumours that Neymar is open to leaving Barca at some point because he wants to be the main man somewhere and Messi will be at Barca a while. Would take crazy money though.
 

Dougal

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Great to see Chelsea unsettled but not the growing pull of China. It's only a matter of time before they turn the head of one of our players.

That said, we don't attract the same kind of wankers Chelsea do.
 
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